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join:2004-05-10
Youngstown, OH | At least... do our contracts expire because of this?
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ME
join:2003-10-15
Toledo, OH
 ·buckeye cable
1 edit | No. This has been covered several millions of times on here.
VZW bought the contracts. your equipment will still work. They both operate on CDMA. Everything will be fine until the contract runs out.
Also you can always renew your plan now and extend it.
But hey TM plans don't suck. | |
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@rcn.com | Re: At least... TM plans dont suck but their service sucks. no reception anywhere in manhattan. | |
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SterlingJ85
Obama 2008
join:2000-11-19
Millville, NJ
 ·PHONE POWER
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| Re: At least... Well, that's just a damn lie. Maybe not service where you want there to be, but NONE?!
T-Mobile's network in NYC was originally a Joint Venture network that ran both Cingular (pre-AT&T) AND T-Mobile.
It was one of the best PCS networks in the city.
NYC is definitely one of T-Mobile's better markets. | |
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@qwest.net | Re: At least... sorry not correct it was omnipoint in NYC. they originally put up the network to replace the meter readers for the electric company they also sold pcs phones. they failed badly and were bought by voicestream | |
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hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Toledo, OH | Areas that get spun off is there any list of cities that Alltel and VZ have to get rid of?
There are few cities I want to see if they're on the list. | |
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NY Tel
Always 180 Degrees Out-of-Phase
Premium
join:2004-04-09
Smithtown, NY
·VOIPo
| Re: Areas that get spun off said by hottboiinnc  :is there any list of cities that Alltel and VZ have to get rid of? There are few cities I want to see if they're on the list. Here is the list. | |
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ME
join:2003-10-15
Toledo, OH | Re: Areas that get spun off Thanks. But I'm looking for an actual list of the cities within the colored areas. | |
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Always 180 Degrees Out-of-Phase
Premium
join:2004-04-09
Smithtown, NY | Re: Areas that get spun off Sorry, that's all I have. | |
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ME
join:2003-10-15
Toledo, OH | Re: Areas that get spun off website information not totally accurate.
Especially in terms to MetroPCS and Cricket. | |
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@windstream.net | Re: Areas that get spun off Looks to me like the metro-pcs map is the same map from metro's website ( doesn't matter ) I posted the link for the list of cities you were looking for,it's under the alltel map. | |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | I wonder the fate of Alltel's GSM roamer network.
I think AT&T and T-Mobile have long term contracts, but then again, if those markets are divested, will AT&T or T-Mobile pick some of them up (or Sprint pick up some CDMA areas as well) | |
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ME
join:2003-10-15
Toledo, OH
·buckeye cable
| Re: Areas that get spun off TM most likely has the cash to pick up the roaming network. ATT i doubt will want it due to them being invested with U-Verse and with CentUSA's merger pending i doubt they'll try and buy anything right now.
Sprint doesnt have the cash or credit to buy any of the CDMA networks.
The likely companies to pick them up especially in Ohio will be the unlimited carriers due to they don't have huge amounts of debt from non-paying customers. Revol will be the likely company to buy the Ohio networks from both Alltel and VZW which will hurt them. They really need the markets that Alltel will be spinning off to really connect their coverage. | |
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SterlingJ85
Obama 2008
join:2000-11-19
Millville, NJ | It should be noted that "Hold Seperate Trust" areas have been decided by a judge that Verizon can buy them back.
Those areas will become Verizon Wireless and will not be divested. | |
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join:2006-04-10
Greenwood, SC | My city is on that map...what does that mean for me exactly? I have a Verizon phone as my personal phone, and an Alltel work phone. | |
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ME
join:2003-10-15
Toledo, OH
·buckeye cable
| Re: Areas that get spun off Depending on what network they say is getting the axe there. They can keep the Alltel network and move you to that network or can keep the VZ network and move you to there.
Weather they keep both of your accounts or not is still to be announced. VZW and Alltel are not saying a damn thing.
This is most likely going to be another Sprint-Nextel merger all over again.
Two companies not doing a damn thing to keep the customer upto date. VZW anyway has a history of mergers not working in their favor---anyone remember when they took over Cellular One's TDMA network and required everyone to renew under VZW? A nightmare that was for customers especially since rate plans went up. | |
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SterlingJ85
Obama 2008
join:2000-11-19
Millville, NJ
·PHONE POWER
·TowerStream
| Re: Areas that get spun off Not likely. For two reasons.
1) Verizon Wireless is very good at mergers, they always are careful to cross every "t" and dot every "i".
2) This is a simple merger when you compare Nextel/Sprint. The problem with this merger was predominantly due to Nextel running an iDEN network, and Sprint running CDMA. In the Verizon/Alltel merger both predominantly run CDMA. This will only require Verizon to integrate the existing networks & billing systems, and remove redundant equipment/cell sites where they already have a network.
The issue with Cellular One was because of their TDMA network; which Verizon wanted to shut down to make it a CDMA market like the rest of their network. | |
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ME
join:2003-10-15
Toledo, OH
·buckeye cable
| Re: Areas that get spun off I know the difference between the networks. I stated them before.
But not telling your customers anything and you have under a week now until the merger is complete is another Sprint-Nextel merger in the works.
You have all these prepaid people from Alltel wondering if they'll get to keep their service or not due to not being in a contract. CellCo Partnership won't tell them a damn thing because they claim they don't have to. You have Alltel on the other hand claiming they don't know what in the hell is going on.
And Sprint could have completed the merger if they would NOT have allowed people to switch from the Sprint brand to Nextel. If they would have made EVERYONE move to the Sprint side after their contract expired and STOPPED signed people up on Nextel's brand Nextel would not have any new customers and would all be happy in the CDMA land.
And you claim the Cellular One problem was due to the difference. You better thank again. Cellular One didnt tell their customers anything either just like Alltel is doing. VZW didnt tell customers anything either UNTIL after the merger was done and REQUIRED ALL CUSTOMERS to sign a NEW contract just because of the difference.
I was one of those customers and it was a pain in the ass. CellCo does NOT know how to manage a Merger let alone know how to take care of their customers. | |
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Simba7
join:2003-03-24
Billings, MT | My area is one that is getting screwed over.
I usually use over 5GB/mo for my mobile PC Repair Service. Now, I don't know what to do.
I hope Verizon sinks and someone takes them over. But we all know that will never happen. | |
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cmcgilton
join:2001-03-14
Stow, OH | Not unexpected This was not unexpected. That's the purpose of consolidations, more work with a lesser percentage of people and more monies into the hands of stockholders, senior management and the CEO's lol... | |
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join:2005-09-28
00000 | Re: Not unexpected The new company motto:
"Do more, with less, for less!" | |
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join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL | Re: Not unexpected There's nothing new about that. | |
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mazzdaa
@cox.net | Commercial Think about what will happen to the Alltel Commercials.... Guess they will be going away too. or they will come out with a corny Alltel/VZW guy holding hands and combining the networks. | |
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53059959
Temp banned from BBR more then anyone
join:2002-10-02
PwnZone |  Chad
maybe the t-mobile one will walk into some buttsecks, scream run off and tell the others | |
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@insightbb.com
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hayabusa3303
Over 200 mph
Premium
join:2005-06-29
clubs: | Chad and the VZ guy in the glasses will kiss and say your good. | |
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join:2000-12-20
Wesley Chapel, FL
1 edit | New commercial
Scene opens with Chad and VZ dude in bed together.
Chad: Your network is so big.
VZ: Yea...I am going to give you some customer service.
Chad: Oh!!!
VZ: When I done with you I going to let these other thousand people with me screw you over too.
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koolkid1563
Premium,MVM
join:2005-11-06
Powell, WY
clubs:
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4 edits | Monopoly So I wonder what will happen here since now VZ will have a monopoly. The only two carriers in this area were Alltel and VZ...
This is the last I heard of what would be happening: »powelltribune.com/index.php/cont···w/586/1/
According to the map posted above...it looks like Alltel's equipment will remain? Does that sound correct? I also haven't heard anything about another carrier picking up either Alltel's equipment or VZ's equipment, whichever VZ decides to sell.
Edit: I just looked at the map again and maybe I had it backwards. It looks like maybe VZ will be staying. | |
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| hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Toledo, OH | Re: Monopoly But like you said they're not saying who is getting the customers on the old equipment or who's getting the equipment.
You would think they would have to tell their customers what's going on before Jan. 9th. | |
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voipdabbler
join:2006-04-27
Kalispell, MT
| Bigger question is how in the world divestiture will happen. In this economic climate even AT&T and T-Mobile, which certainly have healthier spreadsheets than Sprint, probably won't be willing or able to take on new debt to acquire the vast divestiture list put forward by Verizon (I know the FCC would have required some of them, but almost all the divestiture list was developed independently by Verizon). Rural carriers, forget it, in this climate bankers aren't going to be interested in extending their credit lines. That leaves the 64 million dollar question. When no potential buyers can get financing, will the regulators let service be shut down completely? Given most of the divestiture list is composed of RSAs (Rural Service Areas), that move would see the US slipping even further down the list on cellular penetration. (The last data the FCC published showed that far fewer than 50 percent of RSAs had any kind of cellular service--specifically only 150 of the 428 had any cellular service.) It also begs the question on whether regulators should begin revoking licenses issued to carriers who only provide roaming to non-local customers and refuse to invest in infrastructure to serve local populations. At present, many of the unserved RSAs have towers erected by the major carriers simply for those roaming from urban markets. The carriers refuse to expand the infrasturture to provide local service. | |
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ME
join:2003-10-15
Toledo, OH
·buckeye cable
| Re: Bigger question is how in the world divestiture will happen. the unlimited companies have the money. they have less debt dut to they don't have to worry about customers going over on minutes and not paying the bills.
Revol being one of them and based in Ohio they are private and could take over Alltel Ohio that is being left to rot (which would fill a large gap between coverage areas.
MetroPCS and Cricket could do the same in other areas. Although the larger the unlimited companies get the more they'll take customers from the others. Epecially since they don't require a contract for anything. They have an open network for CDMA phones. and you can't beat $47 per month for unlimited minutes including unlimited long distance and text with calling features. | |
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join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
| Re: Bigger question is how in the world divestiture will happen. said by hottboiinnc :the unlimited companies have the money. they have less debt dut to they don't have to worry about customers going over on minutes and not paying the bills. Revol being one of them and based in Ohio they are private and could take over Alltel Ohio that is being left to rot (which would fill a large gap between coverage areas. MetroPCS and Cricket could do the same in other areas. Although the larger the unlimited companies get the more they'll take customers from the others. Epecially since they don't require a contract for anything. They have an open network for CDMA phones. and you can't beat $47 per month for unlimited minutes including unlimited long distance and text with calling features. One of the ways the unlimiteds save enough money to be unlimited is by not having rural coverage. Revol/Cricket/MetroPCS all have very small urban coverage zones. Their business model specifically excludes being national carriers with large swaths of suburban and rural coverage.
US Cellular, or an auction or reverse auction  RSA by RSA with mom and pop "cellular one" carriers popping up is the only hope for these. The other possibility is, they just sit there being unused, which the FCC doesn't seem the care about. | |
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ME
join:2003-10-15
Toledo, OH
·buckeye cable
| Re: Bigger question is how in the world divestiture will happen. Actually Revol has a lot of rural coverage in the Toledo market. They not only bought some of it from Cricket when they bought Cricket Toledo they are expanding it with their own cash buy buying spectrum and leasing it.
Also Revol does have Delaware Ohio which also considered rural.
Revol has hinted to many Ohio customers about taking over the networks in Ohio to almost cover the entire state; especially since they're based in Columbus.
US Cellular i don't see taking over the network or even getting customers. They're very over priced compared to what customers have now in Ohio. | |
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join:2007-07-26
Virginia Beach, VA
 ·Verizon FIOS
| Upcoming changes? As a former Alltel customer -- I have to say that VZ should take an axe to all Alltel's call centers. They are/were even worse than VZ's billing/support staff.
But I wonder -- how long before VZ axes Alltel's "Circle of Friends"? Personally, I think that VZ will keep it in place for existing contracts, and terminate it as the contracts are renewed.
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yvovandoorn
Premium
join:2003-11-06
Renton, WA | Bye bye Bellevue call center Well I know of one call center they are closing. Here in Bellevue, WA we have a huge VZW call center campus (3-4 buildings) and right across the street is an alltel customer service center (right next to the tmobile headquarters). | |
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ME
join:2003-10-15
Toledo, OH | Re: Bye bye Bellevue call center Maumee Ohio will be moving their offices there to Dublin Ohio as well. | |
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Premium
join:2003-03-17
Maumee, OH | Re: Bye bye Bellevue call center where did you hear this ? | |
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mark_y_k
join:2004-06-30
Pound, VA | Does anyone know???? What this does for someone with a prepaid alltel phone? Now I'm on a day by day payment I pay 75 cents a day for unlimited nights and weekends and unlimited messages will i be able to keep that until i need to make changes??? | |
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ME
join:2003-10-15
Toledo, OH | Re: Does anyone know???? chances are see my comments below. | |
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cableties
Premium
join:2005-01-27
Newtown, PA | Dear Alltel customers... Welcome to the worlds biggest, worst-maintained billing, least customer service communication company on the planet!
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mod_wastrel
join:2008-03-28 | I'll wager... Alltel's U Prepaid is the first thing to go. | |
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ME
join:2003-10-15
Toledo, OH | Re: I'll wager... It is. The only thing Alltel said on their site that is staying in place are the services that are under contract. Anything prepaid will go out the door and hello V's service. | |
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join:2002-06-23
Brook Park, OH
 ·AT&T Midwest
| said by mod_wastrel :Alltel's U Prepaid is the first thing to go. I wonder if Verizon will move the U Prepaid accounts over to Inpulse. My mom, sister and cousin have U Prepaid accounts (my mom since 2002!). Guess it's time to start moving them over to Page Plus. (Page Plus is a prepaid MVNO that uses the Verizon network and has very good voice airtime rates when not roaming). | |
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Locutus65
A Closed Mouth Gathers No Foot
Premium
join:2001-05-24
Houston, TX
clubs:
·Comcast
| Really dreading this I really hated hearing Verizon bought Alltel. I love my
Alltel plan. My wife has Verizon and it pretty much sucks. Too expensive, to few features and they simply do not give a crap about their customers.
As for equipment, I hope it still works unless Verizon is planning on giving me a new Palm Treo.
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ME
join:2003-10-15
Toledo, OH
·buckeye cable
| Re: Really dreading this Verizon is CDMA the same as Sprint and Alltel. your phone will work just fine. And I doubt they'd even give you that phone since its not offered anymore. And anyway they'd make you sign a new contract the same way they did CellOne customers during that merger. | |
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pcdebb
I see you
Premium
join:2000-12-03
Tampa, FL
clubs:
| said by Locutus65 :I really hated hearing Verizon bought Alltel. I love my Alltel plan. My wife has Verizon and it pretty much sucks. Too expensive, to few features and they simply do not give a crap about their customers. As for equipment, I hope it still works unless Verizon is planning on giving me a new Palm Treo. it'll still work, there was a prl push last week to make your phones prefer the vz towers
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RailRoadDude
Premium
join:2002-04-02
Redwood Valley, CA
·Comcast
| They're still making Alltel commericals Alltel is taking this one down to the wire, I was watching TBS tonight on Directv and they had a brand new Alltel commerical, one with the claymation guys, it advertised an Alltel New Years phone sale. For a company going to Verizon in a few days, you sure wouldn't have known it after seeing this new commerical. | |
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join:2002-09-07
Traverse City, MI | Re: They're still making Alltel commericals Sure you could. Did you notice the Verizon guy said nothing and stood apart from the other 3? | |
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phazah
join:2004-05-02
Findlay, OH | alltel info interest... i hope they get some info out, you ask the Alltel staff at the stores and they are a clueless as we are...
i would love to know what i'm going to lose(i'm not on a contract right now).... | |
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pcdebb
I see you
Premium
join:2000-12-03
Tampa, FL
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| Re: alltel info interest... said by phazah :i hope they get some info out, you ask the Alltel staff at the stores and they are a clueless as we are... i would love to know what i'm going to lose(i'm not on a contract right now).... they're not clueless, just limited to what can be said.
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phxmark
What Country Are We Living In?
join:2000-12-27
Glendale, AZ | Chad. I am going to miss Chad.
Of course they may make Chad be the guy saying "Can you hear me now?"
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scsiguru
join:2000-11-18
Parkersburg, WV
1 edit | Will switch to ATT I have two phones currently with Alltel. One is out of contract (wife's) and my contract will expire in early June 2009. I plan to switch to ATT and get an Iphone for both of us. Verizon doesn't have anything to offer me. | |
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| bcorley
Premium
join:2004-06-02
Burgaw, NC | Re: Will switch to ATT I was a 12 year customer with at&t and a broken Tilt. They wouldn't even consider waving any fees or discounting the iPhone for me. I went to VZW and AT&T got there last $175 that they'll ever get out of my pocket! | |
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join:2000-11-18
Parkersburg, WV
| Re: Will switch to ATT said by bcorley :I was a 12 year customer with at&t and a broken Tilt. They wouldn't even consider waving any fees or discounting the iPhone for me. I went to VZW and AT&T got there last $175 that they'll ever get out of my pocket! What reason would they have to discount the Iphone for you? Because of a broken phone. Their only obligation would be to resolve the broken Tilt issue. JMHO. | |
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