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join:2000-12-14
Upper Marlboro, MD | Not going to happen Too optimistic. Not going to happen by 2010. | |
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Rojo Sol
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join:2001-06-11
Camarillo, CA
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| Ok.... "Verizon Aims For 6-7 Million FiOS Users By 2010", then "they've passed 9.3 million homes and businesses in parts of 17 states with their FiOS FTTH service".
Looks like they already met their goal unless the article meant to say new users.
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join:2007-05-16
Chicago, IL
| Re: Ok.... "the company says they hope to pass three million more homes a year until they reach 18 million homes by 2010, or over half the homes the company serves. "
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Pathfinder
Dazed Confused
Premium
join:2000-03-26
Mount Vernon, NY
·Verizon Online DSL
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| Re: Ok.... said by S_engineer  :"the company says they hope to pass three million more homes a year until they reach 18 million homes by 2010, or over half the homes the company serves. " more fuzzy math Not fuzzy math, fuzzy misquoting of the article.
said by article :
3 million premises annually through 2010,
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Pathfinder
Dazed Confused
Premium
join:2000-03-26
Mount Vernon, NY | By passed they mean it is available to 9.3 million homes or businesses. That is a 17% penetration rate. They need to do a whole lot better that that. | |
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join:2007-10-19
Sugar Grove, VA
| Re: Ok.... said by Pathfinder :By passed they mean it is available to 9.3 million homes or businesses. That is a 17% penetration rate. They need to do a whole lot better that that. Yes they do. That is why you see companies use flat numbers instead of percentages in cases like this. 9 million looks a lot better than 17% . | |
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join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
| »Re: haha they have 33 million landline homes and businesses, 9 million passed. 1/(33/9)*100 is 28%. So 28% of Verizon landline customers have FIOS. Its more than a quarter.
If they promise 18 million by 2010, thats 55% of Verizon landline will have fios. (1/(33/18))*100=54.5454545 That is over half. | |
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News Guy
join:2000-03-02 | "passed" generally refers to homes able to get the service, not homes that subscribe.... | |
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Pathfinder
Dazed Confused
Premium
join:2000-03-26
Mount Vernon, NY | Title is misleading Stating that Vz hope to have 6-7 million FIOS users by 2010 leaves one with the impression that they expect to have them Jan 1 2010. The article states that they expect that many by year end 2010 or by 2011. | |
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Scoot_NJ
join:2007-09-25
Budd Lake, NJ
| Based on what I see.... They need more boots on the ground for installs as well as material and hardware.
If I was them, I would have moved a TON of my copper guys over to fiber to keep up with demand and open more areas. In my town, half has fiber, where I reside, I am stuck with copper. | |
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join:2004-01-26
Navarre, FL
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| Re: Based on what I see.... said by Scoot_NJ :to keep up with demand With a 16% take rate for internet and a 11% take rate for TV, it looks like Verizon is managing demand just fine. | |
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Sharps97
join:2006-02-09
Glen Mills, PA
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| Impressive numbers Verizon seems to be doing quite well, limited only by their physical capacity to install, and provide equipment. You can see in the TV thread that some of their numbers may be impacted by lack of HD DVR boxes due to high demand.
So, all in all, Verizon can easily make that number as long as they can maintain or increase the number of crew available to install. At this point, it looks like they are installing at max capacity. | |
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Skeedatl
Ah, push it - push it real good
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join:2007-12-26
The Cloud | Re: They need a more compelling product They've already taken the huge price increase model. | |
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join:2002-12-04
USA
| Re: They need a more compelling product said by Skeedatl :They've already taken the huge price increase model. TWC was already expensive. At least with Fios, you get the much better speeds with the internet. | |
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join:2001-03-01
Union City, NJ | FIOS is really good I know it is not trendy in these parts, but I have to say that I enjoy my FIOS quite a bit. Not the slightest slowdown, and a pretty good price. It is a winner for me. And they might well be able to get these numbers, if only by word of mouth. | |
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join:2005-11-30
Portsmouth, NH | Screw Verizon I hope it doesn't happen. They started FIOS in New Hampshire and now they are selling it to crappy Fairpoint. I have FIOS internet and phone. Verizon promised me TV soon, now with Fairpig, I will never see video. Verizon can go to hell. | |
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| DonLibes
Premium,ExMod 2001
join:2003-01-19 | Re: Screw Verizon Any chance you could translate that into English so people who live elsewhere than NH could understand your complaint? | |
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jgkolt
Premium
join:2004-02-21
Lakewood, OH
clubs: | fios over uverse i would switch from uverse to fios if i could but att has a monopoly in my area.
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| koolkid1563
Premium,MVM
join:2005-11-06
Powell, WY
clubs: | Re: fios over uverse As does Verizon in their markets and Qwest in their markets along with every other phone company. | |
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Premium
join:2004-02-21
Lakewood, OH
clubs: | Re: fios over uverse that is true coolkid. I am not saying they are any different just the way it is setup.
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join:2004-01-26
Navarre, FL | You don't have a cableco as an option? | |
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Premium
join:2004-02-21
Lakewood, OH
clubs:
| Re: fios over uverse Ok ill take a step back. I have either at&t available for dsl and time warner for cable internet. With the horrible service of tw in my area i looked toward att even though i dont care of the company. Now for dsl i have to go with att or a reseller selling the att dsl. now generally the reseller is not going to be as cost effective and i dont see them selling fios or uverse speeds.
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join:2001-01-03
Chicago, IL |  Good for them!!!
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join:2004-03-19
Covington, LA | Re: Good for them!!! What's wrong with 10Mbps? It's not as if Verizon is selling 100Mbps. | |
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join:2001-01-03
Chicago, IL
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| Re: Good for them!!! said by bogey780 :What's wrong with 10Mbps? It's not as if Verizon is selling 100Mbps. If it were 10/10 and $25mo then it would be decent but it's 10/1.5 and expensive. Also AT&T uses sync speed so maybe you get 8 or 9 megabits and then distance from the CO also affects your speed.
My friend has 30/5 which cost him $80 but it's shared by 4 people so $20 each is cost effective. | |
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join:2004-03-19
Covington, LA | Re: Good for them!!! AT&T offers it on U-Verse...you get 10Mb/s it's not synched at that rate.
And distance affects sync rate. After that you're golden. | |
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join:2001-01-03
Chicago, IL
·AT&T Midwest
| Re: Good for them!!! said by bogey780 :AT&T offers it on U-Verse...you get 10Mb/s it's not synched at that rate. And distance affects sync rate. After that you're golden. U-verse is $99/mo for the cheapest deal with 10/1.5, the HD quality is really bad. DSL is just not made for HD I'd rather have Satellite. | |
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join:2004-03-19
Covington, LA | Re: Good for them!!! what's the cheapest TV/10Mbps FiOS package? DSL isn't the problem with IPTV. IPTV is the problem with IPTV. | |
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wdoa
join:2001-10-16
Spencer, MA | not in Massachusetts VErizon is now refusing to do any further FIOS rollouts in the state until they get a statewise video franchise which would allow them to opt out of local public access channels. | |
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| smallblock
join:2004-01-03
Milford, MA | Re: not in Massachusetts really? they appear to be running fiber on my street this week  | |
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join:2004-05-26
Milford, MA
| Re: not in Massachusetts smallblock what street you live on? I just started a Milford map and highlighting street that have had fiber ran on them, i'm using verizon contacts and Milford PD detail info to see where they are wiring the most right now which is most the main streets and north Milford by Woodland down to the town park, and of course BearHill area. | |
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join:2008-03-24
Milford, MA | Re: not in Massachusetts I'm on Kalen Circle in Milford. Can you tell me what I would be looking for (Other than a Verizon truck) and take a look on my way out to Purchase/South Street ? | |
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| haplo2112
join:2003-05-12
Charlton, MA
| They seem to be lighting up more towns actually, just at a frustratingly slow rate and not in the towns that need and/or desire it most. They are going for the big hits with high population density. The places that its needed and wanted most are where the population is thinner (think west of 495, and also locations south of the pike. Some limited rollouts have happened in these areas, but nothing like the north shore. | |
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Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-06
Waterbury, CT
clubs: 
| Very Impressive.... 9.3 million homes passed already with a subscriber rate of 1.5 million customers.
Now these are the kinds of numbers one would expect from a next generation service that is truly a competitive force versus the cable industry and this company is really rolling this service out at a breakneck pace.
Is is absolutely astounding to compare these results with that TOTAL DISASTER of a TELCO..AT&T's #'s for their next generation pewverse service isn't it.
That companies CEO should be ashamed..embarrassed..and flat out ran out of his office for allowing that disaster of a service to continue. I have said from the start that that company would save NOTHING in the end because it was going to do NOTHING to bring on subscribers the way a REAL fiber rollout would.
Consider the numbers folks. Pewverse's numbers at just over 200,000 customers after ALL this time..and a rollout in their own corporate backyard on top of it...
versus THESE kinds of numbers from a company that obviously stood up to their shareholders and said this is what we MUST do to survive.
AT&T's shareholders should DEMAND that the fiasco known as uverse come to an immediate end. It is the laughing stock of the technology world...and their results will drive that company and it's shareholders into bankruptcy.
It is truly hard to imagine that this companies employees are even standing by and allowing this disaster to continue anymore. Faithful as they are..they have posted on here continually trying to defend this outrageous decision by management..but today they are seeing what a huge mistake it has been. AT&T is jeopardizing their futures with a mistake that can only be called one of the biggest blunders corporate america has ever seen.
The writing is on the wall and their management simply refuses to read it. What a disgrace.
Their decision to continue rolling out pewverse is akin to intel deciding that the world needs 386sx computers again.
Meanwhile, Verizon is rolling out this service at a pace like this and is leaving AT&T in the dust.
Will AT&T ever learn...before it's too late?
This is a years long process and they're going down a road they might never recover from.
What a shame for a company that really should know better.
VERIZON..Kudos to you on your product..and your success with it. It's well deserved.
AT&T...you're heading to Bankruptcy court.
It's really that simple.
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@verizon.net | They better... Fix their horrible billing issues. I have had to call to remove long distance charges on my bill every single month I have had it. | |
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joker5656
join:2006-06-23
Greenville, SC | (Passing) KEYWORD HER who cares how many people they pass, how bout they start hooking up people to there service. Now that would be a goal. | |
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digdug
Premium
join:2008-02-01
Mount Vernon, WA
clubs: | Re: (Passing) KEYWORD HER Yes, I'm one of those 9.3million they "passed" as I havent seen it yet  | |
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Jets 19 - Steelers 16
Premium
join:2005-01-17
Pompton Plains, NJ | Well If they would just make it available maybe they could achieve that! Come on VZ, all my neighboring towns have it! | |
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Verizon Aims For 6-7 Million FiOS Users By 2010
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