Re: meanwhile at att
said by trparky:At&t calls HSDPA+ 4G not 3G. So right there they are being deceitful.
In most cases, 3G HSDPA+ gets the job done.
It has the same bandwidth capabilities of LTE, granted LTE has lower latency but you can deal with that. But there's another big plus that HSDPA+ has over LTE... no battery draining side effect.
Re: meanwhile at att Stop belaboring a 2 year old issue, the ITU redefined 4G to include WiMax, HSPA+ and LTE and in real world use, HSPA+ can provide speeds that are close to LTE, just look at T-mobile data speeds, and it consistently outperforms WiMax, which was the first 4G
Technically speaking none of those meet the original definition of 4G, which only LTE-advanced meets.
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Re: meanwhile at att
said by Metatron2008:30/12 isn't the usual everywhere either. In fact, according to most reports over at howardforums (the largest forum dedicated to those interested in cell networks) - in most urban areas Verizon's LTE network has dropped right into their stated goals of 5-12mbps.
You've seen? I've seen 60/20. 30/12 is the USUAL for lte.
Now, I have seen it at 12/4 and even 4/1, but those are really rare here..
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Re: next big noticeable step
said by iansltx:How can that be? Karl and others here clearly state that spectrum shortages are a lie. /sarcasm
Particularly since their 700MHz network is starting to creak under the load of 50% of their data traffic, at least in some areas.
Anyway yeah that's why they plan on doing 1700/2100 in those markets. Of course you need devices that can actually take advantage of those frequencies. Also getting people off of unlimited will help.
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Re: You know...
said by Crookshanks:That must be my problem. My Galaxy Nexus phone can drain the battery in no time at all on 4G LTE. I can watch the percentage drop by a digit every five minutes on LTE. Must be because I live in a "marginal signal area" according to Verizon.
The real battery hog with this phone is when it's in a 3G-only, or worse, fringe LTE area where it flips back and forth. If I neglect to disable LTE when I'm in a 3G only area it will completely drain the battery in a matter of hours.
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Re: You know...
said by MovieLover76:A LTE only phone would mean you couldn't call anyone as calls currently go over 1X. You know you can always turn of the 4G.
For myself I can't complain about coverage it's better than anything around here , I won't even consider Verizon until they release LTE only phones with newer chipsets and VoLTE. But even then I don't think I'll want to start paying double for my wireless plan again.
Re: You know...
said by MovieLover76:Verizon has stated they will refarm their 1X and 3G for LTE by 2021. Now could they do it sooner sure. If not I guess Verizon will see you in 8 years.
That's what VoLTE is for, Voice over LTE.
It will slowly replace the older cdma network, and Verizon's timetable to deploy it is sometime in 2014. I don't plan on going back to Verizon any time soon, I did state until they release, which implies in the future. not the current state.
LTE only phones will eventually come to Verizon, that's why they are covering 100% of their 3G footprint with LTE, becuase CDMA and LTE together is really a cobbed together mess technically.
| |said by trparky:If one is to believe at&t they should have most of their areas covered with LTE within the next year.
At this point, I'd rather go back to 3G/HSDPA+ with either AT&T or T-Mobile and drop Verizon since 4G LTE is one hell of a battery hog at this moment.
I don't have such issue on my LG Lucid which isn't exactly high end. Also if you're not using data then turn off the 4G.
Most of the phones contain first or second generation LTE modem chips which drains your phone's battery like nothing I've ever seen before.
Actually Verizon says it will have it's entire 3G footprint covered with 4G by the end of 2013. All MARKETS will have some 4G by mid 2013. My area has 4G, but not every TOWER in my area has 4G. Bit a difference.
And besides, I live in a market that's supposedly all upgraded and that according to Verizon, I should have 4G LTE everywhere. Not so. I've been into areas of my market that are quite affluent and where the people have money. 4G LTE coverage? Nope, only 3G.
Also coverage is not guaranteed indoors and the coverage maps can not take into account things like building and trees that may block a signal.
3G is for data. Calls go out over 1X.
And 3G is next to useless, speeds such. I drop calls all the time.
Re: We've had Verizon LTE for awhile in Tucson but...
said by Crookshanks:People seems to think so. They think mobile communications work by magic or something.
Nothing VZW can do about construction materials that attenuate their signal...