 | | If only.... If only google fiber came to nyc, it would push fios to lower their price and offer 1Gbps for cheap as well! | |
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| |  skeechanAi OtsukaholicPremium
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kudos:2 | Re: If only.... At least until greedy NYC pols and building owners looking for kickbacks put their hands back in their pockets instead of looking at VZ as a payday. | |
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| | | I'll take 1Gbps for just a few more dollars a month... | |
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| | | said by m3nphls:If only google fiber came to nyc, it would push fios to lower their price and offer 1Gbps for cheap as well!
If only verizon would complete even the legally obligated rollouts they already have... Baltimore County comes to mind... | |
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| | If Only They kept expanding the FIOS footprint. Even pushing other companies to deploy fiber and drum up some competition. | |
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|  ropeguruPremium
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Mechanicsville, VA | Re: If Only said by buzz_4_20:They kept expanding the FIOS footprint. Even pushing other companies to deploy fiber and drum up some competition.
Exactly.. The comment, "Says More 'Troublesome' Copper Lines to Be Migrated" does not equate to "Further expansion".
I really wish they would have run FiOS into my community. They past right by us and ran it an additional 10+ miles to the local administration offices but bypassed the established communities along the way. | |
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| | | | Re: If Only They could eventually. Once they finish up their commitments with cities, they very possibly could explore to see where they could deploy FiOS and make a healthy profit. They are not going to turn entire communities onto LTE in the future. That is simply not feasible. | |
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Etobicoke, ON | Re: If Only said by silbaco:They could eventually.
Except they've stated they won't be expanding any further. | |
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| | | | | | Re: If Only At this time. Nothing is forever. Especially in telecommunications. | |
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| | | | | | | Re: If Only ya, but it certainly f'n takes them forever...
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| | | | |  KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
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Tulsa, OK | They have seen the future, and it is LTE (With Caps and Overages, of course.)
I suspect FIOS expansion is dead forever barring a massive shift in the competitive landscape.
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| | | | | | | | Re: If Only Again, they can't move entire towns/cities to LTE. I don't know how no one on this website can grasp this concept. There is no possible way LTE can support that much traffic. Not even close. LTE will only work in sparsely populated areas. The LTE network is already slowing down and they have hardly anyone using it for home usage. | |
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Tulsa, OK | Re: If Only It can, it's just a question of how many access points they build. | |
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| | openbox9Premium
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kudos:2 | Once again, wait until the LTE build is done. I'm betting FTTH expansion will come back in the next couple of years. | |
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| | | | move into that active Senior community at Lee Davis and Pole green rd. They have FIOS internet only | |
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| | | said by buzz_4_20:They kept expanding the FIOS footprint. Even pushing other companies to deploy fiber and drum up some competition.
Verizon in a lot of places cannot push FIOS more because of agreements they made with the cable companies. By that I mean those cable companies agreed that they would not move into the wireless business in Verizon areas and they would not extend FIOS into those cable provider areas. So right now they are at a stand off because of that issue. | |
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kudos:2 | Re: If Only I'm guessing you're assuming they have a gentlemen's agreement? | |
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| | | | Actually, that would be the best thing for everybody, except the doupolists! Verizon and the other telcos running around trying to cut the "unmentionables" off the cable-crats and vice-versa! A famous economist (Galbraith) called it the "theory of countervailing" power; it would make competition real, immediate and sudden! | |
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| | Goodbye Copper Verizon should have been allowed to ditch copper were FiOS was deployed from day 1. | |
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| CXM_SplicerLooking at the bigger picturePremium
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kudos:1 | Re: Goodbye Copper They did ditch it, despite all the customers still using it (and paying for it). | |
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| KearnstdElf WizardPremium
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Mullica Hill, NJ | I am guessing lots of the North Jersey Shore are getting FiOS now. Thanks to Sandy it is basically greenfield in some of the barrier islands.
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| Please bring FiOS to Western Mass You can skip Palmer and the rural areas between Worcester and Springfield, they're rural and you won't get a quick return on your investment. Springfield, West Springfield, Holyoke, Chicopee, Longmeadow, East Longmeadow, Ludlow, and Agawam are all the urban areas where you can serve 8 customers off of one pole instead of one customer every couple of miles and you'll quickly get a return on your investment. And don't forget Northampton, Easthampton, Hadley, and Amherst; those are areas with a lot of college students and people with money. Contrary to popular belief, Western Mass is a viable market to upgrade to FiOS.
I think the time has come to sunset copper lines. Copper lines have basically reached the end of their useful life and the time has come to shut them down. And if you'll deploy FiOS in Springfield, I'll pay the hourly rate to wire my house since it is a duplex and would require a custom install. | |
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| | | Re: Please bring FiOS to Western Mass Skip the rural areas? Why do that? While those rural areas might not bring in a lot of money, they are one of the more costly areas to maintain copper service. We have a number of cooperatives and rural providers deploying fiber on gravel roads where there are only a couple people per mile.  | |
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| | IowaCowboyWant to go back to IowaPremium
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| Re: Please bring FiOS to Western Mass said by silbaco:Skip the rural areas? Why do that? While those rural areas might not bring in a lot of money, they are one of the more costly areas to maintain copper service. We have a number of cooperatives and rural providers deploying fiber on gravel roads where there are only a couple people per mile.
My bad, I did not realize that rural copper was expensive to maintain. I was thinking from a service provider's perspective where they want a quick return on investment. We don't have the cooperatives here in Mass like we did in Iowa. Mass is pretty urban and the rural areas are served by investor owned utilities. What I can say is the urban areas get their power restored pretty quickly after a storm (I was out three days in the October snowstorm) but the rural areas waited up to two weeks for the lights to come back on. And they want to sell their rural assets as Maine, New Hampshire, and Vermont are rural states and Verizon dumped their inventory there onto FairPoint (which is basically insolvent due to the high costs of serving those areas). And with FairPoint, service has gone downhill (Grandma quickly switched to Time Warner for home phone when FairPoint came to town). It would be nice if FairPoint did upgrade their areas to fiber but they don't have the cash.
It would be nice to have cooperatives here, particularly in the rural areas (particularly the rural parts of Western Mass, and northern New England). I don't think the laws of the states here allow for cooperatives but we do have a number of municipal utilities (Chicopee, Westfield, Holyoke, and South Hadley just to name a few). Municipal utilities tend to have better rates than investor owned utilities. | |
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| | | | | Re: Please bring FiOS to Western Mass Cooperatives benefit greatly from the lower maintenance costs of fiber. There are several here deploying it to their entire service area no matter how rural that may be. Unfortunately major companies would rather pay higher maintenance costs than deploy fiber. | |
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| | | | I would terminate all copper service to the rural area and force them to use either cable or LTE.
These equipment are too expensive to be deployed to rural area | |
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| | | | | Re: Please bring FiOS to Western Mass Most rural areas don't have cable. That leaves nearly a monopoly for the telco. Although deployment costs are high, if you deploy fiber to a rural area it will pay itself off eventually. If you can get them on your TV service, it will pay itself off even faster. Plus a lot of rural people still have landlines. | |
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| | Good When they deploy 1Gbps nationwide it will bring downt the 300Mbps to $99 | |
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Plano, TX | Old news They tested 1Gbps FiOS not too long ago on a test XG-PON setup with some business customer like a year ago. | |
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| | yay I think fios internet and phone are coming to me. I live in brookhaven town on long island. Verizon originally stated that fios wont be coming here because they stopped rollout to places that didn't already have it.
lately in my complex I have seen Verizon trucks all over the place. there are no markkings in the street for the fiber and You see the fiber strung on the poles outside the development. Its not yet connected though you see the end of the fiber feeding the development not connected.
So with this we are replacing the copper with fios to places that can get it means this work is mostlikely what is described in this article.
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| | | Re: yay You will be able to get the phone and Internet. They don't have franchise agreement for TV with Brookhaven and you have to wonder if they ever will. | |
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| | | | Re: yay said by fioseller:You will be able to get the phone and Internet. They don't have franchise agreement for TV with Brookhaven and you have to wonder if they ever will.
I know that. AllI care about is there internet and phone. I am fine with tv since my development has an agreement with cablevision so I would pay only the price for my boxes for tv. | |
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Madison, NJ | The good news re Verizon The god news for Verizon FIOS customers is that it is FIBER to the house. Other cable systems often use fiber in the street and another cable to the house. Thus the cost of upgrading Verizon to a I Gbps is minimal compared to many other cable comanies which have crews visiting each house to lay a stretch of fiber to the house. | |
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kudos:4 | What about my areas? I am still on copper! I can't get DSL (20K ft. to CO) and FIOS even if they are available in my cities.  | |
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| ?$? At&T and Verizon aren't going to spend a penny on deployments & investment in the wireline networks unless they are forced or coerced to do so...
This can be for any number of reasons, such as lower uptake of LTE wireless, more consumer complaints reaching congress & the fcc (at which point, the telcos get more stick than carrot).
Lastly, Verizon is NOT doing 1gigabit symmetrical this year.. you can take that one to the bank.. at ANY price to residential customers. | |
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