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Verizon Changes Wireless Data Rates
At least for casual America's Choice users...
by Karl Bode Thursday 01-Nov-2007 tags: business · Verizon Wireless Broadband
As of today, Verizon Wireless is changing their pricing for casual data users. Previously, America's Choice plan customers had to pay $5 per month extra to use the Mobile Web for any reason, with Verizon charging airtime minutes during use. Now, says Gizmodo, they're dropping America's Choice and charging users $1.99 per MB. There are some exceptions, notes the website, who has the details ahead of any official release:

You won't get charged for data use if you are downloading songs from V Cast Music Store, or sending and receiving picture or video messages, though they still cost 25 cents a piece. Ditto for 15-cent text messages. Subscribers to V Cast video service (starting at $15 per month) will get unlimited data use for Mobile Web, as you would hope.


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BosstonesOwn

join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA

Unlimited ?

Maybe with this time they can give us a true idea of what unlimited means.
firewire9999

join:2004-07-11
Livonia, MI

Re: Unlimited ?

Hmmm it means the can charge you in unlimited ways!!!
gopnick

join:2005-01-07
Benton, AR

Re: Unlimited ?

Heh, good line.
Sbrav77
Premium
join:2004-03-02
Bourbonnais, IL

Wait and See

Hmm. I'm currently on the family share plan and have 5 lines on my account. I pay the 30.00 extra monthly fee for everyone to have unlimited messaging to anyone on any network. Wonder if they are going to keep this plan or change it.

tc1uscg

join:2005-03-09
Saint Clair Shores, MI

Re: Wait and See

30 bucks? Wow.. That's a lot of money.

AnnaS8

join:2005-05-26
Annapolis, MD

Re: Wait and See

$30.00 divided by 5 phones is $6 per phone for unlimited messaging to anyone is actually pretty good.

I just went ahead and got the unlimited everything plan since I text to everyone plus I get text alerts and I use the Nav a ton at my new part time job.

tc1uscg

join:2005-03-09
Saint Clair Shores, MI

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Re: Wait and See

said by AnnaS8:

$30.00 divided by 5 phones is $6 per phone for unlimited messaging to anyone is actually pretty good.

I just went ahead and got the unlimited everything plan since I text to everyone plus I get text alerts and I use the Nav a ton at my new part time job.
Guess that's cheap for VZW standards. My 5 phones and TRUE unlimited text (sprint) is 20 bucks. One phone on my account (daugther) hit 4600+ msgs this month. THey all have nav service (free) and unlimited (not vzw's version) internet/data access. But my plan(s) work for me and my family and I'm very happy with my service just as you arehappy with your provider I'm sure. So, lets leave it at that..

AnnaS8

join:2005-05-26
Annapolis, MD

Re: Wait and See

Yeah...I have tried them all and Verizon was the was the only one that didn't drop my calls. I do agree if you are paying $20 for 5 phones then $30 is expensive.

tc1uscg

join:2005-03-09
Saint Clair Shores, MI

Re: Wait and See

Dropped calls I think are by markets. The problem with surveys, they do a OVERALL scope of service. I know that there is a big difference in markets. Chicago and Detroit for example, Sprint seems to do better then the others. I think people let themselves get so caught up in the customer service issues with sprint, they rate the network as bad.. However, funny that Virgin mobile recently got top ratings in PC Mag. .they ride only on Sprints network. But Sprint hit the bottom of the list. I've had Sprint for almost 9 years now. They offer the most bang for the buck, are not restrictive on it's network use and I've had less issues with them then my cable, wireline or natural gas provider. Good luck with your service. If you ever move, to say, Glasgow KY or even Louisville, you might want to find another provider then VZW.. JMO.

AnnaS8

join:2005-05-26
Annapolis, MD

Re: Wait and See

Yes and if you ever move to the Baltimore/DC area then you would be in the same boat my friend.

tc1uscg

join:2005-03-09
Saint Clair Shores, MI

Re: Wait and See

Thats sorta funny you said that. My wife and son just got back from a week in DC (school trip). She was talking about all the people who were losing service and dropping calls from other carriers (mostly AT&T) in that area. On the way back, it seems Sprint was the only provider able to keep the signal up all the way home. I'm not just saying this. I think something a lot of people don't take into count is the phone. Even same brands, it can be the difference between service or no service. Now, they only spent a week there so it could have been a fluke in the network..

AnnaS8

join:2005-05-26
Annapolis, MD

Re: Wait and See

LMAO! Yeah it was a fluke.

In all fairness you are correct. It isn't just the network but the phones as well. Now when I had sprint It was maybe 10 or so years ago. The home builder I was working for decided to switch us from Nextels to Sprint. Thinking they would be better signal in our area. He was getting too many people going over their minutes with personal calls that he decided to switch back to Nextel. Now the phone I had was spotty with their service. When I later got Verizon the service was solid til I got my first color phone. It was a Motorola which is normally a good phone but it sucked. They even swapped it out a few times but it didn't help. Oh well such is life...Take care my friend.

jgkolt
Premium
join:2004-02-21
Lakewood, OH

data

they will prob not change the 30 text messaging plan you have. but on my blackberry edge which i do some ota during the week i normally use 14 megs a month.
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BosstonesOwn

join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
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Re: data

I was thinking about getting an evdo card for my laptop as to free my phone up for use during the night shifts. But it looks like I will be getting vcast and just use the tethering features of my unlocked phone to surf the web.
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Done_Posting
Shoot to kill
Premium
join:2003-08-22
Toledo, OH

Re: data

said by BosstonesOwn:

I was thinking about getting an evdo card for my laptop as to free my phone up for use during the night shifts. But it looks like I will be getting vcast and just use the tethering features of my unlocked phone to surf the web.
Be careful. Don't forget, "unlimited" EVDO to Verizon actually means "no more than 5 GB / month" in the real world.

- Tate

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rickonline

join:2005-11-15
North Bergen, NJ

A huge price increase in disguise

There is no mention of Get It Now applications being exempt from the data charges. If they are not exempt, then you will have to pay data charges to both download and use GIN applications. For example, downloading Navigator will cost you $3.98 instead of just 2-3 minutes of data. This is just a huge price increase in disguise.
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rickonline

join:2005-11-15
North Bergen, NJ

Re: A huge price increase in disguise

And here is the official VZW statement on GIN:

Airtime or megabyte charges apply for sending and receiving data using Get It Now, depending on your plan.
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Rick

Camelot One
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join:2001-11-21
Austin, TX
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15c text messages?

Tell me again why people use Verizon with rates like that?
Done_Posting
Shoot to kill
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Toledo, OH

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Re: 15c text messages?

said by Camelot One:

Tell me again why people use Verizon with rates like that?
Every cell provider overcharges for text messaging. It's just gravy for them, since it costs so little to provide and texting is so widely utilized now.

I'm very happy that unlimited texting is included in my Sprint plan; last month I used roughly 2,500 texts and the bill for that would have been astronomical otherwise!

- Tate

EDIT: Grammar, spelling

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Camelot One
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Austin, TX
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Re: 15c text messages?

said by Done_Posting:

said by Camelot One:

Tell me again why people use Verizon with rates like that?
Every cell provider overcharges for text messaging. It's just gravy for them, since it costs so little to provide and texting is so widely utilized now.

EDIT: Grammar, spelling

I agree that they all overcharge, but 15c is just insane. My PREPAID, NO CONTRACT carrier is only charging 5c! There should be absolutely nothing that costs more on a contract plan.
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Shoot to kill
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Toledo, OH

Re: 15c text messages?

I'm not sure, but I believe Sprint charges $.25 per message once you exceed your monthly limit...

- Tate

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benc
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Glen Carbon, IL
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said by Camelot One:

Tell me again why people use Verizon with rates like that?
Because some, probably most people don't use SMS. I currently have a VZW phone and I have comprehensive SMS block turned on (can't send, can't receive). I just saw a gaping loophole for something no one seems to use, so I cut it off.

The loophole? It costs to receive, yet you have no control. What's going to stop someone from sending 100 SMS per day? That's about 3,000/mo. At $.10, that's $300.

Since you can send SMS via E-Mail, this scenario is much more likely than you might think.

Plasticman
Will Work For Bandwidth
Premium
join:2002-09-06
Harrisville, RI

Wonder if this has something to due with Google deal

I wonder if this increase has something to due with the recent talks of verizon and google releasing phone based applications........ Are they going to charge for using bandwidth for their VZ Navagator program?

Plasticman
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rosco35
Premium
join:2003-11-10
USA
kudos:1

What does this mean for current Mobile Web subscribers?

Does this mean that if you already have the $5 mobile web that you lose it when your contract is up?
Or only if you resign a new contract?
weedahoe6

join:2003-09-14
Duluth, GA

Re: What does this mean for current Mobile Web subscribers?

Or better yet, I bet none of this applies to PDA users

ahulett
Life Without Walls
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join:2003-02-02
Bellevue, WA
kudos:2
If you renew, you can keep the mobile web plan. It's when you change it that you won't be able to select it again.

I just did this today (picked up a new phone and renewed). I opted for the $1.99 option as I hardly ever (once a year?) use Mobile Web. For me this is a less expensive option.
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rosco35
Premium
join:2003-11-10
USA
kudos:1

Re: What does this mean for current Mobile Web subscribers?

cool, I use MW frequently, checking weather, scores, and text.dslreports.com while out and about.
brawney
Premium
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Frederick, MD
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2 edits

Family PLan Changes?

I am on the Americas Choice Family Plan (the 'old' plan) and have 5 phones. Looking at their site now it appears they only support up to 4 phones on the family plan.

Update: I was wrong. They still allow up to 5 on the plan. Their fine print says:
"Minimum of two lines required. Maximum of five lines."
Their selection on the web page when ordering only goes up to 4 though.

rit56

join:2000-12-01
New York, NY

net neutrality

imagine your bill when the corrupt congress gets rid of net neutrality and your home broadband is a mirror or the cell phone.... tons of restrictions... being nickeled and dimed to death... truly the end of free speech.

VegasMan
Are We There Yet?
Premium
join:2002-11-17
Schaumburg, IL

Re: net neutrality

said by rit56:

imagine your bill when the corrupt congress gets rid of net neutrality and your home broadband is a mirror or the cell phone.... tons of restrictions... being nickeled and dimed to death... truly the end of free speech.

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Hambone4
Hambone

join:2007-08-11
North Hollywood, CA

Verizon UNLIMITED

Unlimited = time wasted while waiting for customer service to get to your call.
BuzzDar

join:2006-01-28
West Frankfort, IL

Re: Verizon UNLIMITED

some people just want something to complain about

Mr Bill

@comcast.net

Rate Change information per Verizon CSR

I just spoke to a Verizon Customer Service Representative and learned the following:

1) America's Choice Subscribers are grandfathered and will not be forced to change to the new "National Plan". America's Choice Mobile Web 2 rate structure is no longer available to new subscribers.
2) Existing Subscribers on contract or on a month to month plan can change to the new National Plan ($1.99 per MB on Mobil Web 2 usage) without extending or signing a new contract. If you change to the National Plan you cannot change back to the old plan. According to the CSR these rates apply to data usage through Mobil Web 2 only and not other service such as text messaging.
3) For Family Plan Subscribers data is accrued per handset not per plan. If I use 0.2Mb and my wife uses 0.7Mb during a billing period, each handset will be billed $1.99 per handset for data usage. Remember there is no unlimited Mobil Web 2 usage on Night and Weekends as with the America's Choice Plan.
4) Verizon is being unhelpful by not providing information on the bill for grandfathered America's Choice Subscribers to indicate how many Mb they have used each month in addition to minutes used. So that they can determine which plan is best for them.

Regards

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