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Verizon Confirms Larger, 'Hidden' Shared Data Plans
'Who would need 20GB?' Asks Verizon

A few weeks ago several users informed me that while Verizon's original shared data plan press release and announcement only listed bandwidth pools up to 10 GB, the company was actually offering bigger allotments to users who called in or started digging through the website while ordering.

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In addition to the base plans, users can also order data pools of 12 GB ($110), 14 GB ($120), 16 GB ($130), 18 GB ($140), and 20 GB ($150). Several users have told us there's even a 30 GB plan for $200 if you really want it.

Computerworld this week noticed the "hidden" offers, and got Verizon to explain their reasoning for not advertising them more clearly. The telco tells ComputerWorld it was to keep things simple for consumers, and because they didn't think many people would be interested in 20 GB of LTE data:
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The Verizon Wireless spokeswoman, Brenda Raney, said the carrier has been offering the higher tiers of data to customers since June, mainly through customer service via phone or in its stores. The upper tiers were not posted with the original six tiers on the Verizon web site in order to keep the program simple and because "the majority of customers use under 2GB a month," Raney said. "Who would need 20GB?"
AT&T's shared data plans also go up to 20 GB, though with AT&T you'll pay $200 a month for that allotment. Both AT&T and Verizon now charge $15 for each additional gigabyte.
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let me make a "family" account with 10 friends

Let me do that and it would be very affordable and we would gladly use that much data.
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said by ArrayList:

Let me do that and it would be very affordable and we would gladly use that much data.

yes that would work. make sure your 9 other friends pay their share of the bill every month.

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There's an access fee for each phone on top of the "bucket-o-data" charge. Verizon it's $30 PER each dumbphone and $40 PER each smartphone. So if all 10 had smartphones, there's $400/mo plus $150/mo for the data, plus taxes and surcharges.

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Re: let me make a "family" account with 10 friends

$55/month/line isn't that bad. It isn't that great either.

inteller
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Re: let me make a "family" account with 10 friends

so the same price as Page Plus, except you don't have to go scrounge up 9 suckers to join you. BRILLIANT!
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so the same price as Page Plus, except you don't have to go scrounge up 9 suckers to join you. BRILLIANT!

Yeah let me know when Page Plus actually services my area. Then talk.
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For the Family

If you got brothers, sisters, nieces, and nephews on your plan, then these bigger allotments are worth it.

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"Who would need 20GB?" Typical verizon scheme. Friends don't let other friends use verizon.
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Been there since the start

These have NOT been hidden. They have been there since the first day. I know because when the Share Everything plans start I saw them on the website when you went through the ordering processes. Also they actually have a 30 GB plan for $200 too. Now that isn't on the website but it exists.

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Re: Been there since the start

said by 88615298:

These have NOT been hidden.
...Also they actually have a 30 GB plan for $200 too. Now that isn't on the website but it exists.

You seem to contradict yourself in the same post. Either they are hidden, or they are displayed. They are mutually exclusive of each other so it can't be both.

Right now on their Share Everything plan page they have the following statement:
quote:
Need more than 10GB of data? Add 2GB for $10/month by logging in to My Verizon.
It's an unclear statement whether it's stating that you can add add just one 2GB block for $10/month, or if you can add multiple blocks for $10/month each.
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said by cdru:

You seem to contradict yourself in the same post. Either they are hidden, or they are displayed. They are mutually exclusive of each other so it can't be both.

No contradiction. I went on the website the first day of these plans. Went through the motions pretending to be a new customer I was shown the options all the way up to 20 GB.

On July 2nd I went to the local Verizon store to upgrade my phone. When the girl went to the back I look at a piece of paper she had on the counter that was for employees about the new Share plans. It listed all the pricing not only up to 20 GB but also it had a 30 GB plan for $200 listed.
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Verizon spokesperson is dumb

The Verizon Wireless spokeswoman, Brenda Raney, said the carrier has been offering the higher tiers of data to customers since June, mainly through customer service via phone or in its stores. The upper tiers were not posted with the original six tiers on the Verizon web site in order to keep the program simple and because "the majority of customers use under 2GB a month,"

Well let see under the old plans people have to get a plan that cost at least $30 and comes with 2 GB of data and $10 per GB overage. Now most people go with this plan since they don't want to spend more than $30 on data. Now since the cap is 2 GB it make perfect sense that people would use LESS than 2 GB. I'd bet a million dollars that if the $30 plan had a 5 GB cap the average amount of use would be higher.

Raney said. "Who would need 20GB?"

Let's see

A) people who don't have access to cable/DSL

B) people that actually want to use this supposed great new LTE shit. What can you do with 2 GB a month on LTE?
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Re: Verizon spokesperson is dumb

said by 88615298:

What can you do with 2 GB a month on LTE?

Everything you could do on the 3G network, only faster.

For all the bellyaching around here (and on other tech sites) about wireless data caps how many users are really impacted? Most people I know use their smartphones for e-mail and web browsing. Caps don't really come into play for them. Nor do they come into play for the majority of people who use their phones to stream audio. Pandora Mobile streams at 64kbit/s (80kbit/s at high quality) which translates into about 36 hours of streaming per gigabyte. Pandora even did a study of their Android/iPhone users and concluded that >90% of them would not be impacted by a 2GB data cap.

And before you say "video", most people who use "mobile video" are watching stupid Youtube clips of cute kittens, talking parrots, and funny television commercials. Few people want to watch full length movies on a cell phone (or a tablet) screen.

We may hate the carriers for these policies but they were smart enough to structure these plans so it would only be a minority of users who are impacted by caps/overages. It's a win-win for them; they either force the heaviest data users to leave the network/limit their usage or they monetize them and have more capital to put back into the network.
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Re: Verizon spokesperson is dumb

I'm using 6-9GB/month depending... unlimited on Sprint. Others on family plan are usually under a GB/month though. Even for those not heavy 4G users, on Sprint it's nice to not have to watch a meter or restrict your usage in fear of going over.

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And before you say "video", most people who use "mobile video" are watching stupid Youtube clips of cute kittens, talking parrots, and funny television commercials. Few people want to watch full length movies on a cell phone (or a tablet) screen.
stupid or not, if that is what consumers want, then so be it. Sometimes people need their porn.

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said by Crookshanks:

said by 88615298:

What can you do with 2 GB a month on LTE?

Everything you could do on the 3G network, only faster.

For all the bellyaching around here (and on other tech sites) about wireless data caps how many users are really impacted? Most people I know use their smartphones for e-mail and web browsing. Caps don't really come into play for them. Nor do they come into play for the majority of people who use their phones to stream audio. Pandora Mobile streams at 64kbit/s (80kbit/s at high quality) which translates into about 36 hours of streaming per gigabyte. Pandora even did a study of their Android/iPhone users and concluded that >90% of them would not be impacted by a 2GB data cap.

And before you say "video", most people who use "mobile video" are watching stupid Youtube clips of cute kittens, talking parrots, and funny television commercials. Few people want to watch full length movies on a cell phone (or a tablet) screen.

We may hate the carriers for these policies but they were smart enough to structure these plans so it would only be a minority of users who are impacted by caps/overages. It's a win-win for them; they either force the heaviest data users to leave the network/limit their usage or they monetize them and have more capital to put back into the network.

+1 WiFi is used enough to keep 3g use to a minimum.
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Re: Verizon spokesperson is dumb

said by FFH5:

said by Crookshanks:

said by 88615298:

What can you do with 2 GB a month on LTE?

Everything you could do on the 3G network, only faster.

For all the bellyaching around here (and on other tech sites) about wireless data caps how many users are really impacted? Most people I know use their smartphones for e-mail and web browsing. Caps don't really come into play for them. Nor do they come into play for the majority of people who use their phones to stream audio. Pandora Mobile streams at 64kbit/s (80kbit/s at high quality) which translates into about 36 hours of streaming per gigabyte. Pandora even did a study of their Android/iPhone users and concluded that >90% of them would not be impacted by a 2GB data cap.

And before you say "video", most people who use "mobile video" are watching stupid Youtube clips of cute kittens, talking parrots, and funny television commercials. Few people want to watch full length movies on a cell phone (or a tablet) screen.

We may hate the carriers for these policies but they were smart enough to structure these plans so it would only be a minority of users who are impacted by caps/overages. It's a win-win for them; they either force the heaviest data users to leave the network/limit their usage or they monetize them and have more capital to put back into the network.

+1 WiFi is used enough to keep 3g use to a minimum.

Then what's the point of 3G or 4G if one is just supposed to use Wi-Fi? Hell voice and messaging don't use 4G, 4G is strictly data but if I'm having to use Wi-Fi then WTF is the point of 4G? So I can use it 45 minutes a month? Why am I paying $50-$100 a month for that?

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said by 88615298:

Then what's the point of 3G or 4G if one is just supposed to use Wi-Fi? Hell voice and messaging don't use 4G, 4G is strictly data but if I'm having to use Wi-Fi then WTF is the point of 4G? So I can use it 45 minutes a month? Why am I paying $50-$100 a month for that?

So you do not wait 30 secs for a web page to appear.

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said by FFH5:

+1 WiFi is used enough to keep 3g use to a minimum.

said by 88615298:

Then what's the point of 3G or 4G if one is just supposed to use Wi-Fi?

So you do not wait 30 secs for a web page to appear.

Wait, what? So, you can load pages faster on 4G while on WiFi?

This is one of those "Huh?" posts, eh?

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said by SimbaSeven:

said by FFH5:

+1 WiFi is used enough to keep 3g use to a minimum.

said by 88615298:

Then what's the point of 3G or 4G if one is just supposed to use Wi-Fi?

So you do not wait 30 secs for a web page to appear.

Wait, what? So, you can load pages faster on 4G while on WiFi?

This is one of those "Huh?" posts, eh?

Doesn't that depend on your internet speed your Wi-Fi connection links to? With 4G I can get up to 25X the speed of my GFs DSL internet connection.

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said by aaronwt:

Doesn't that depend on your internet speed your Wi-Fi connection links to? With 4G I can get up to 25X the speed of my GFs DSL internet connection.

I have a 30/5 Optimum Cable Modem here.

Plus, you can surf.. but how long until you spill over your cap and get nailed for overages?

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said by SimbaSeven:

said by FFH5:

+1 WiFi is used enough to keep 3g use to a minimum.

said by 88615298:

Then what's the point of 3G or 4G if one is just supposed to use Wi-Fi?

So you do not wait 30 secs for a web page to appear.

Wait, what? So, you can load pages faster on 4G while on WiFi?

This is one of those "Huh?" posts, eh?

Have you used much "free" or hotel wifi? It's usually slower than snot compared to Verizon LTE.

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said by djrobx:

Have you used much "free" or hotel wifi? It's usually slower than snot compared to Verizon LTE.

Better than having an embolism when I receive my bill.
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said by FFH5:

said by 88615298:

Then what's the point of 3G or 4G if one is just supposed to use Wi-Fi? Hell voice and messaging don't use 4G, 4G is strictly data but if I'm having to use Wi-Fi then WTF is the point of 4G? So I can use it 45 minutes a month? Why am I paying $50-$100 a month for that?

So you do not wait 30 secs for a web page to appear.

That's a pretty large page if it takes 30 seconds to load. Secondly, $100 a month so you can load a page a few seconds faster?
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said by Crookshanks:

said by 88615298:

What can you do with 2 GB a month on LTE?

Everything you could do on the 3G network, only faster.

For all the bellyaching around here (and on other tech sites) about wireless data caps how many users are really impacted? Most people I know use their smartphones for e-mail and web browsing. Caps don't really come into play for them. Nor do they come into play for the majority of people who use their phones to stream audio. Pandora Mobile streams at 64kbit/s (80kbit/s at high quality) which translates into about 36 hours of streaming per gigabyte. Pandora even did a study of their Android/iPhone users and concluded that >90% of them would not be impacted by a 2GB data cap.

Well if Pandora only uses 64 kbps then you don't need 4G for that do you? I fact if you're using les than 2 GB a month there very little benefit of 4G speeds.

Also 64 Kbps? That sucks. Even crappy mp3s are 128 kbps. Also I believe Spotify can do 320 kbps over mobile. Even at 64 kbps 2 1/2 hours a day= 2GB a month. So there's your limit just on that.

And before you say "video", most people who use "mobile video" are watching stupid Youtube clips of cute kittens, talking parrots, and funny television commercials. Few people want to watch full length movies on a cell phone (or a tablet) screen.

And some of us do. In fact Verizon show off people watching Netflix on it's commercials. In fact it touts watching online video as one of the benefits of 4G. So what you are saying is Verizon is saying "Here is what you can do on 4G but don't actually do it".

We may hate the carriers for these policies but they were smart enough to structure these plans so it would only be a minority of users who are impacted by caps/overages. It's a win-win for them; they either force the heaviest data users to leave the network/limit their usage or they monetize them and have more capital to put back into the network.

To say few people go over 2 GB when the cap is 2 GB and conclude that is all people want to use is obtuse. Of course people aren't going over 2 GB they don't want overages. It's like saying if people are driving 70 MPH on the interstate when the speed limit is also 70 MPH it's because they don't want to go any faster than that anyways. Go to Montana where they don't have speed limits and I can guarantee you the average car is going faster than 70 MPH.

If people were using less than 2 GB Verizon wouldn't have killed off unlimited.

I'm not saying they should offer unlimited I know their network can't handle that but the caps are a joke. The $50 data plan has 1 GB. And you can share with 10 devices. Ok a 100 MB a month? Is there a point?
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said by Crookshanks:

said by 88615298:

What can you do with 2 GB a month on LTE?

And before you say "video", most people who use "mobile video" are watching stupid Youtube clips of cute kittens, talking parrots, and funny television commercials. Few people want to watch full length movies on a cell phone (or a tablet) screen.

Why do you assume that the cell phone's screen is the one displaying the full length movie? What if I want to tether my cell phone to my 18.4" Vaio laptop?
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said by ke4pym:

said by Crookshanks:

said by 88615298:

What can you do with 2 GB a month on LTE?

And before you say "video", most people who use "mobile video" are watching stupid Youtube clips of cute kittens, talking parrots, and funny television commercials. Few people want to watch full length movies on a cell phone (or a tablet) screen.

Why do you assume that the cell phone's screen is the one displaying the full length movie? What if I want to tether my cell phone to my 18.4" Vaio laptop?

Because he's never heard of MHL or phones with HDMI out.

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wow...just wow....

Congrats Verizon, ATT, and the other cell companies that are embracing this crap. You are pushing myself and other consumers like me away from doing business with your company.

I won't have a smartphone after October (when my contract is up) there is no way in hell i will pay for a capped plan with such a small amount of usage for that price..people are insane to pay those kinda prices...

nowdays people have more money then they have sense.

150$ for 20 GB is highway robbery....anyone that thinks that is a good plan is just way misinformed....do you have any idea how cheap bandwidth is right now? Bandwidth prices are and have been dropping for quite sometime. This is just another classic ripoff from the scamphone err...i mean cell phone companies.

Thank god I will be able to wash my hands of this mess come October....i can't wait to just pick up a prepaid phone where i can just call and text....they can take those data plans and cram their where the sun don't shine..

150 dollars for 20 GB of data...Un-freakin-real! what a ripoff!
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said by Woody79_00:

nowdays people have more money then they have sense.

Time is money and more and more people are finding themselves with more money than time. I know that the benefit I gain from being connected while mobile is extra time with my wife and three children in the evening. That's worth a monthly surcharge IMO.

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Re: wow...just wow....

glad I don't have to make the choice to pay to be with my family.
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said by Woody79_00:

Congrats Verizon, ATT, and the other cell companies that are embracing this crap. You are pushing myself and other consumers like me away from doing business with your company.

I won't have a smartphone after October (when my contract is up) there is no way in hell i will pay for a capped plan with such a small amount of usage for that price..people are insane to pay those kinda prices...

nowdays people have more money then they have sense.

150$ for 20 GB is highway robbery....anyone that thinks that is a good plan is just way misinformed....do you have any idea how cheap bandwidth is right now? Bandwidth prices are and have been dropping for quite sometime. This is just another classic ripoff from the scamphone err...i mean cell phone companies.

Thank god I will be able to wash my hands of this mess come October....i can't wait to just pick up a prepaid phone where i can just call and text....they can take those data plans and cram their where the sun don't shine..

150 dollars for 20 GB of data...Un-freakin-real! what a ripoff!

Yep just get basic phone with a keyboard from Straight Talk or Net 10 for calls and messaging then keep the smartphone but only use it as a Wi-Fi only device since that is all it is anyways apparently. Sucks having to carry 2 devices but it seems that's what these companies want.

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You don't have to drop your phone. Just get no data for your phone and turn data off on it. You can do that in settings.
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said by pclover:

You don't have to drop your phone. Just get no data for your phone and turn data off on it. You can do that in settings.

Verizon requires you to have a data plan that is at least $30. Why should I pay $30 for something I'm not using?
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said by Woody79_00:

150$ for 20 GB is highway robbery....anyone that thinks that is a good plan is just way misinformed....do you have any idea how cheap bandwidth is right now? Bandwidth prices are and have been dropping for quite sometime. This is just another classic ripoff from the scamphone err...i mean cell phone companies.

150 dollars for 20 GB of data...Un-freakin-real! what a ripoff!

100 million+ subscribers think Verizon Wireless is not only a good plan, its the best plan available. Apparently, it is not a ripoff.

Like many on this forum, you don't seem to appreciate how the math works.
Verizon is making a plan available that addresses their typical customer's needs and wants. Mom doesn't want to buy 5 or more data plans to handle all the devices in the household, even though those devices don't use very much data. With device-assignable caps and notification, she's protected from potential overage charges, and little Johnny can't claim ignorance when he pushes past his personal allocation downloading Pitbull videos.

If all you want is the most data volume (threshold) for your dollar, you should be on Clear, VMUSA, Walmart-TMobile, or Millenicomm.
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Re: wow...just wow....

Half of those 100 million and maybe even more can't get service from another carrier, thats why they pay those stupid fees. and I dare you to get any 20 people with verizon cell service that will say they are not being charged to much for what they are getting. I wish you luck with that!
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said by zeddlar:

Half of those 100 million and maybe even more can't get service from another carrier, thats why they pay those stupid fees. and I dare you to get any 20 people with verizon cell service that will say they are not being charged to much for what they are getting. I wish you luck with that!

Given that Verizon generally charges the highest rates of any carrier, anyone complaining of being "charged too much" should have no difficulty finding a less expensive option.

If they don't change carriers, then clearly, they consent to the rate they pay.
It really is that simple. No one forces you to buy a "smart" phone, a fruit-company device, or subscribe to Verizon.
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"Holy Cow!!"

...Was what the VZW rep at the local store said when she saw our latest month of data useage of 22G. That was back when we had an unlimited Alltel grandfathered plan.

Of course, this was when we were dependent on VZW for our entire family's only source of internet access.

I see a lot of ire and disgust aimed at DSL, but it was a pipe dream come true last October when Frontier finally deployed and hooked me up. Nevermind a thick pipe of FIOS has been under my road for around 10 years, installed by Verizon.
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.

I will stick with my $29.99 8-15GB a month plan.

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IPPlanMan
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Price Shock....

Typical Verizon talking points... "You're evil for even thinking about using 20GB." In reality, Verizon doesn't want people seeing such high prices for data usage plans on its website. We all know that's true. Not fooling me.

Welcome back to the golden age of telecom.... How easily we forget our history....

- Per device charges:
"Each phone was leased from AT&T on a monthly basis by customers, who generally paid for their phone and its connection many times over in cumulative lease fees. This monopoly made millions of extra dollars for AT&T, which had the secondary effect of greatly limiting phone choices and styles. AT&T strictly enforced policies against buying and using phones by other manufacturers that had not first been transferred to and re-rented from the local Bell monopoly. Many phones made by Western Electric thus carried the following disclaimer permanently molded into their housings: "BELL SYSTEM PROPERTY — NOT FOR SALE." Telephones were also labeled with a sticker marking the Bell Operating Company that owned the telephone."

"In 1968, the Federal Communications Commission allowed the Carterfone and other devices to be connected directly to the AT&T network, as long as they did not cause damage to the system. This ruling (13 F.C.C.2d 420) created the possibility of selling devices that could connect to the phone system and opened up the market to numerous products, including answering machines, fax machines, cordless phones, computer modems and the early, dialup Internet."

"In the 1980s, after some consumers began buying phones from other manufacturers anyway, AT&T changed its policy by selling customers the phone's housing, retaining ownership of the mechanical components — which still required paying AT&T a monthly leasing fee."

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT ··· poration

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:)

I am on 12GB plan with 5 smartphones , when the bill comes we divide everything by 5 the whole bill so to be on safer said we took the 12GB plan ,10gb plan in our situation only makes 2$ difference,so I guess it's not that bad for us at least!

IPPlanMan
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The perfect storm...

Keeping track of each user's data usage... Yeah right.

More like overage after overage after overage... Right into its pockets.

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Kamus
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Stick to WiFi

Steer clear of this crap, use WiFi.

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said by Kamus:

Steer clear of this crap, use WiFi.

It's exactly what I do. I use a Pre-Paid Verizon MVNO with barely any data and just use WiFi lol
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The Point Has Finally Been Hit Here

What good is 4G if you can't use it without incurring massive overages?

Why do we need such an extensive 4G network to be nickeled and dimed on?

I think VZ and T are overplaying their hands here massively. The things that would benefit from a 4G wireless network are things that due to the incredibly high (and getting higher) pricing that people will just never do because of them.

Why would anyone willingly sign up for these Share Everything plans? The only thing that keeps the sales going is the fact they mandate a data plan for these smartphones, a data plan that you're largely paying for nothing. The customers have to know how bad it is they're being gouged, but because we have anything but a free market, they're not really able to voice any opinion about it.
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These plans are a joke

LOL and to think these carriers want to push 4G (LTE) as a substitute for broadband connections. Who the hell are they trying to fool with these caps and insane pricing?
XknightHawkX
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East Peoria, IL

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Doesn't matter if the service doesn't work right.

I don't see how anyone could use 1 gb a month where I'm at. I go to access facebook at 4g and it takes a minute. You look at the connection icon and it is only working part of the time. Says it sends then receives thens waits about 5 to 10 seconds then send and wait then receive. Does not have a connection that runs until it gets all the info at once.

I click to update temp outside and sometimes I get it within a 2 or 3 seconds but most times it takes 15 to 20 seconds, And sometimes even longer. I don't know why Wireless service providers charge so much for such a crappy service.

KrK
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Do they provide Lube with these prices?

I'm guessing not.

You can't win here with lack of Competition. This type of "Deal" would only be a good deal if you had 5+ devices or so to use the same data.... problem is they still charge you an "Access Fee" for each device!! $30-$40 each device on top of the data charge.

It's great being in the land of the "Free from Competition."

cork1958
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Re: Do they provide Lube with these prices?

said by KrK:

I'm guessing not.

You can't win here with lack of Competition. This type of "Deal" would only be a good deal if you had 5+ devices or so to use the same data.... problem is they still charge you an "Access Fee" for each device!! $30-$40 each device on top of the data charge.

It's great being in the land of the "Free from Competition."

Exactly what I was thinking.

I was also thinking that the fact anyone is spending $200, or $300 for wireless ANYTHING is smoking some REALLY raunchy s**t!!
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to KrK
said by KrK:

I'm guessing not.

You can get lube, but you have to pay a "lube access" fee.
BiggA
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They had them all along

They said you could add increments of 2GB for $10 to the 10GB plan, so it doesn't take genius math skills to figure out these plans from the original announcement... these are just codes for those plans in the system.

JigglyWiggly
join:2009-07-12
Pleasanton, CA

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Re: They had them all along

lol rip offs
superior unlimited master race

IPPlanMan
Holy Cable Modem Batman
join:2000-09-20
Washington, DC

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Soaring data plan prices...

1 year ago unlimited Verizon data was $30. Today 20GB is $150. But hey, you can share it for an extra $40/mo/device.

What a scam...

EGeezer
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Midwest

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So, which is right?

said by article :

"the majority of customers use under 2GB a month," Raney said. "Who would need 20GB?"

But Verizon has been crying for caps because of claimed rampant abuse and network degradation.

Which is right?
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Re: So, which is right?

said by EGeezer:

But Verizon has been crying for caps because of claimed rampant abuse and network degradation.

Which is right?

They lie to cover up more lies. Is this really surprising?