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Go digtal you analog laggards
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join:2005-12-17
New York, NY
clubs:  | cool It would be even sweeter if they offered it in my dorm, lol. Sadly we're on NYU's private network for internet and TV (and TV is only analog, no digital or HD services).
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baineschile
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join:2008-05-10
Sterling Heights, MI | Re: cool Dont most of NYCs dorms have a 100 mirrored connection? | |
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sansri88
Go digtal you analog laggards
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join:2005-12-17
New York, NY
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1 edit | Re: cool I'll try to find out with ITS. My office, 13-19UP, has a great internet connection (last week I was able to get 230mbps down, 50mbps up).
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yolarry
join:2007-12-29
Creston, WV | Re: cool wow you must have a gigabyte LAN to support that much.
correct me if I wrong...does Lan cables only hold 100mbps? | |
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drew
Reformation
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join:2002-07-10
Port Orchard, WA
clubs: | Re: cool CAT5 is rated for 10 or 100mbps.
CAT5e and CAT6 is rated for 1gbps. CAT6 is rated for 10gbps at 37 meters. | |
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join:2009-05-27
New York, NY
| NYU's backbone is pretty solid. FIOS may actually be SLOWER than what residents may be getting at other NYU owned facilities. I did a speedtest in May at the Palladium dorms and saw some impressive numbers:
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jammmin
join:2000-12-14
Upper Marlboro, MD | Coop City Any word if there is a pending agreement with Coop City in the Bronx. Coop City at count had 50,000+ residents exclusively served by Cablevision. | |
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NJBoricua75
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join:2000-09-13
North Bergen, NJ
3 edits | Re: Coop City said by jammmin  :Any word if there is a pending agreement with Coop City in the Bronx. Coop City at count had 50,000+ residents exclusively served by Cablevision. I think it could be soon. Reason I'm saying that is because my relatives live out at Co-Op city's cousin, Starrett City in Brooklyn or as it's now known as "Spring Creek Towers" and fios is getting deployed there.
I can actually say Verizon is finally getting it. If they want to hit Cablevision hard, thats the way to do it. | |
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join:2006-01-27
Bronx, NY
| Re: Coop City said by NJBoricua75 :said by jammmin :Any word if there is a pending agreement with Coop City in the Bronx. Coop City at count had 50,000+ residents exclusively served by Cablevision. I think it could be soon. Reason I'm saying that is because my relatives live out at Co-Op city's cousin, Starrett City in Brooklyn or as it's now known as "Spring Creek Towers" and fios is getting deployed there. I can actually say Verizon is finally getting it. If they want to hit Cablevision hard, thats the way to do it. Thats fantastic news. I dont think ill be making the switch over to FIOS but if i can use it to get a price break im in for that. Or if i can get them to waive the 300 dollar setup fee for Ultra, yeah that would be nice lol | |
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sonicmerlin
join:2009-05-24
Cleveland, OH | Eh Verizon's way overpriced.
In Japan you can get symmetric 1 gbps connections for $50/month. | |
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join:2000-09-17
New York, NY | Re: Eh Correction. The backhaul to the CO is 1GB but the Ethernet handoff is 100Mbit. | |
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elbm
join:2000-08-03
Reisterstown, MD
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| The back haul back to the CO is actually 2.4 Gbps.
Japan is the size of a postage stamp compared to the US. Japans density is much higher than the US. If the US was only NYC VZ could offer Gbps all day fro 50 bucks. Why don't they do it now in NYC? Because it would be useless the amount of transport out of NYC to get to the US domestic servers spread out across the country is not in place. Japan-- all their domestic servers are in a very small area. | |
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join:2009-05-24
Cleveland, OH
1 edit | Re: Eh The congestion issues in the US are related to the last mile. The backbone and middle mile have experienced exponential growth in capacity. For a content provider like Hulu it costs 5-8 U.S. cents per hour to provide HD Video, and 2-4 for SD video. Once the last mile issue is solved with FTTH, especially in cities like NYC, the typical excuses become meaningless.
Let's not forget the $200 billion in taxes the government gave the incumbents to build out their landline networks. Let's also not forget the billions and billions in profits the ISP industry pockets every year. AT&T's profits alone have tripled since 2005 from 4 to 12 billion dollars.
Furthermore, while the US is much larger than Japan, it also has a significantly higher population, which allows for economy of scale unavailable to Japanese ISPs.
Unfortunately, the US consumer has never been able to benefit from this economy of scale because Verizon and AT&T, the duopolistic owners of the middle mile, price bandwidth at huge markups.
When all ISPs are truly struggling to avoid bankruptcy and are overwhelmed by the bandwidth demands of the consumer, unable to provide the 1 gbps connections they promised their consumers in attempts to one-up their competition, *then* we can talk about the geographical limitations of the US. | |
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join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
| said by sonicmerlin :Verizon's way overpriced. In Japan you can get symmetric 1 gbps connections for $50/month. 1 gbps to only customers of the same ISP/intra-Japan. Your throttled to 20/5 or other conventional speeds to get off the Island of Japan, submarine cable capacity is much too precious and expensive. | |
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join:2009-05-24
Cleveland, OH
1 edit | Re: Eh I'm well aware the speeds are only applicable intra-Japan. Of course for Japanese this is fine since most of them can't read English.
But the case is true of every country. That's why when you conduct speed tests you almost always choose servers located inside the US. Most major websites have server clusters located in each major country to avoid inter-continental congestion. | |
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kyoto
@verizon.net | well guess what we're not in japan. verizon is still cheaper than the local competition (comcast, time warner, cablevision) | |
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join:2009-05-24
Cleveland, OH
| Re: Eh said by kyoto :
well guess what we're not in japan. verizon is still cheaper than the local competition (comcast, time warner, cablevision)
Cablevision has been offering 15/2 connections for many years now as its base internet service at significantly lower prices than Verizon.
Just recently Verizon added $5 to their internet plans, while increasing speeds. Except that's not how technological progress works, and it runs counter to Moore's Law. Bandwidth is supposed to become faster *and* cheaper, as it has been in many other countries around the world. | |
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join:2006-10-26
Worcester, MA
| Re: Eh NO. That is not how Moore's Law works, furthermore, Moore's Law (it was actually only an observation at first and still happens to stay close to reality) doesn't even APPLY to internet connections.
Do you mean cheaper as in $ or bps per $? Cause I think over the years, the trend has been down for bps/$ and money wise it has been going up slightly depending on you draw comparisons between various speed packages of today and speed packages of year long past. | |
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join:2009-05-24
Cleveland, OH
| Re: Eh Oh really?
From physorg.com:
Originally, Moore’s Law described the number of transistors that can fit on an integrated circuit, which doubles approximately every 18 months. Now, a team of researchers from China has discovered that Moore’s Law can also describe the growth of the Internet. In a recent study, the researchers have predicted that the Internet will double in size every 5.32 years.
That finding is one of several results from the study published by Guo-Qing Zhang, et al., in a recent issue of the New Journal of Physics. The researchers investigated the evolution of large-scale Internet topology, or how the Internet is structured and connected. Based on routing data of six-month intervals from December 2001 to December 2006, the researchers predicted not only the Internet’s exponential growth rate which follows Moore’s Law, but also more specifically how the Internet evolves.
Now stuff it. | |
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tubbynet
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| Re: Eh said by sonicmerlin :Oh really? From physorg.com: Originally, Moore's Law described the number of transistors that can fit on an integrated circuit, which doubles approximately every 18 months. Now, a team of researchers from China has discovered that Moore's Law can also describe the growth of the Internet. In a recent study, the researchers have predicted that the Internet will double in size every 5.32 years. That finding is one of several results from the study published by Guo-Qing Zhang, et al., in a recent issue of the New Journal of Physics. The researchers investigated the evolution of large-scale Internet topology, or how the Internet is structured and connected. Based on routing data of six-month intervals from December 2001 to December 2006, the researchers predicted not only the Internet's exponential growth rate which follows Moore' Law, but also more specifically how the Internet evolves. Now stuff it. you still have failed to prove how this applies to the speed of an internet connection. you have pointed out that chinese researchers have shown that there is a corollary to the law that supposes the *size* of the internet grows every 5.32 years. no where was *speed of connection* mentioned.
you may say "stuff it" as you have shown that it _marginally_ applies to internet connections because the size of the internet grows only with additional last-mile connections to end users, but that is a rough connection at best.
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Verizon Continues NYC FiOS Deployment
Great!