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kudos:48 | Re: Own you? said by flycuban:I guess verizon feels that they own your device that YOU paid for.
Maybe, or maybe it's as simple as not downloading the updates?
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kudos:48 | Re: Own you? said by MovieLover76:It also fixes the problem with the phone rebooting frequently, I have the phone and I needed this update, not downloading it isn't a good option, better option is to root the phone.
See I have the same phone, and I have it overclocked 900mhz and I don't have this issue at all, is the rebooting due to a over heating issue?
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kudos:48 | Re: Own you? Ahh that's probably why I don't have the issue, I rooted my phone the day the option was available, and I have never downloaded any updates at all, just a few 3rd party roms based off the original. I pretty much don't download the VZW updates, I know better O:) unless there's a major issue with the device.
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kudos:2 | said by MovieLover76:The rebooting issue was due to the MR1 radio from the last update... If that's the case, someone will pull the radio out of that update and make it available for install only, leaving out the hotspot-disabling part. This requires a rooted phone, of course. | |
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kudos:48 | Re: Own you? said by GLIMMER:you mean under clocking it right its got a 1ghz processor
Lol no, I overclocked it to 1.9Ghz, the 900Mhz is how much I overclocked it 
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|  Lark3poPremium
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| said by flycuban:I guess verizon feels that they own your device that YOU paid for.
If you got a subsidized phone on contract do you really own the phone before the contract terms are met? I ask because I truly don't know.
I personally no longer buy phones on contract for this very reason. I will pay full price for a (unlocked) phone I like and be in total control over what is and what is not on it. | |
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| | | fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
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kudos:3 | Re: Own you? Once again you fail.
No, the phone IS in fact yours.. contract or not. The moment you strike the deal with Verizon, or any carrier for that matter, the phone is yours. You have agreed to complete a term in trade for the discount on the phone. If you do not complete the term, you are required to pay the ETF but the phone is still yours.
As for your "because they could request the phone back... in the first 15 to 30" etc... that again, too, is wrong. IF you cancel the service in the cool down period then it's not a matter of them "wanting the device back'.. it's a matter of "if you want to cancel the service in that period, you HAVE to give the phone back - period.
Not sure where you get some of your information, but this one is way off the mark.
Just because a phone is discounted doesn't mean they can request the phone back - actually, they could but I'd tell them to pound sand. Discounted or not, the phone belongs to the customer. | |
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| said by Lark3po:said by flycuban:I guess verizon feels that they own your device that YOU paid for.
If you got a subsidized phone on contract do you really own the phone before the contract terms are met? I ask because I truly don't know. I would say yes. Because you will have to pay an ETF if you quit early, and they won't get the phone back. | |
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| said by Lark3po:said by flycuban:I guess verizon feels that they own your device that YOU paid for.
If you got a subsidized phone on contract do you really own the phone before the contract terms are met? I ask because I truly don't know. I personally no longer buy phones on contract for this very reason. I will pay full price for a (unlocked) phone I like and be in total control over what is and what is not on it. Of course you do. I'm not 100% sure about Verizon but with AT&T I could get an iPhone for $200 for signing a contract, never activate the iPhone, sell it on ebay, remove the data plan and not have any issues.
The contract is a discount for the phone in exchange for agreeing to have service for X period of time. You own the phone, and there's no reversing that. If you cancel the contract you can't return the phone, you must keep the phone and pay the termination fee, which goes down each month you had the service.
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| said by flycuban:I guess verizon feels that they own your device that YOU paid for.
Its not just Verizon, Motorola also likes to keep things locked up (bootloaders). This stuff wont change and there arent enough people to get loud enough to make them care.
At least Verizon has an excuse to lock some things down (tethering does use spectrum, which cost money). | |
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| Re: Own you? said by slckusr:said by flycuban:I guess verizon feels that they own your device that YOU paid for.
Its not just Verizon, Motorola also likes to keep things locked up (bootloaders). This stuff wont change and there arent enough people to get loud enough to make them care. At least Verizon has an excuse to lock some things down (tethering does use spectrum, which cost money). Tethering doesn't use spectrum. It allows the transfer of data between your phone and computer.
With all the carriers going to metered per-MB plans, it's not relevant. If you pay for 2GB of data, it is the same resources for the carrier if you use the data on your phone, on your tethered computer, or on your ass for that matter.
Tethering using more data than accessing the internet on your phone, so the carriers will make more revenue if more users tether.
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kudos:1 | Re: Own you? Tethering doesnt directly use spectrum, but getting the data from the web to your phone sure does. | |
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kudos:5 | said by joako:With all the carriers going to metered per-MB plans, it's not relevant. If you pay for 2GB of data, it is the same resources for the carrier if you use the data on your phone, on your tethered computer, or on your ass for that matter.
Tethering using more data than accessing the internet on your phone, so the carriers will make more revenue if more users tether.
I agree about pricing on UBB, BUT ........
said by hottboiinnc:Yes but putting that device on a computer can and most likely will cause more strain on the network due to pulling more data over it.
But the above is also true. So where is the tradeoff. If the ISP charges for tethering they get more money for expanding infrastructure to handle increased demand.
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Santa Monica, CA | said by joako:said by slckusr:said by flycuban:I guess verizon feels that they own your device that YOU paid for.
Its not just Verizon, Motorola also likes to keep things locked up (bootloaders). This stuff wont change and there arent enough people to get loud enough to make them care. At least Verizon has an excuse to lock some things down (tethering does use spectrum, which cost money). Tethering doesn't use spectrum. It allows the transfer of data between your phone and computer. With all the carriers going to metered per-MB plans, it's not relevant. If you pay for 2GB of data, it is the same resources for the carrier if you use the data on your phone, on your tethered computer, or on your ass for that matter. Tethering using more data than accessing the internet on your phone, so the carriers will make more revenue if more users tether. That's only true if the tetherers buy larger buckets, or pay overages. Tetherers watching the meter WILL use more spectrum, but the carrier will not make additional revenue unless they exceed their quota; by charging the tethering surcharge up front, the carrier makes up for the revenue loss without having to resort to an overage charge.
Bucket plans aren't sold on the basis of every user achieving 100% utilization. Not by a long shot.
If you want to argue that "all bits are equal" and enforce same in the contract, then you'll find bits priced for peak-access, and your "up to 2GB" plan will become an "up to 1GB" plan for the same price, and in place of overages, you'll just pay for each additional GB at the base rate.
AT&T demonstrated how little spectrum is available for data with its iPhone fiasco - and with "smart" phone subscriptions and data volumes expecting to skyrocket, the carriers are scrambling to both accomodate the demand for the functionality, while pricing data within reach of Mom's family plan, and schooling 100 million subscribers on how to conserve, in order to fit everyone within the narrow bandwidth that's available. That means clamping down on casual tethering. Sorry. | |
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join:2009-03-05
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kudos:48 | Re: Own you? said by hottboiinnc:you may own the device- but not their network. Your monthly fee gives you the privilege to use it and they say what happens on it. If you don't like it; then there are other carriers that will take your business.
So what happens when no one is satisfied with all the carriers and the terms to use their network? Everyone should just put up with it and feel privileged to pay more for antiquated technology that's been around for 30 years now?
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Sucks, huh? | |
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kudos:48 | Re: Own you? said by jjeffeory:I can tell you the answer. We do without. Screw us! You want to participate in modern society? Too bad. Pay up or shut up!
Sucks, huh?
Not really, if we unite as a nation and all decide to drop our phones I'm pretty sure the carriers will change their tune when all their customers leave, honestly, investors can't keep a company afloat if they aren't getting return on investment.
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kudos:48 | Re: Own you? said by hottboiinnc:You do as the carrier wishes and you agree to. You signed the contract agreeing to their terms of using that device. You know up front that it will cost you extra for the hotspot device then you agree to pay for it if you wish to use it.
When I got my device the functionality was free, and since at the time PDANet was free and able to be downloaded on the Market I went that route to tether for free, so I didn't break any ToS or ToU, I used the device naturally with app's that were already in place on the Market. Since then VZW has changed my ToS/ToU so since they did that does that mean I should cancel my plan and pay an ETF? Naaaaah, I think not
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| I was supposed to be why net neutrality rules were attempted.
To ensure that carriers wouldn't 'double dip' or block certain services.
Instead - they just raise prices.
Personally - since there is a 2GB 'cap' (overage charged), they shouldn't care if I tether or not. Most likely, they'd like to keep those that have data lines from using the phone as a modem w/o extra revenue. | |
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| | | | said by hottboiinnc:you may own the device- but not their network. Your monthly fee gives you the privilege to use it and they say what happens on it. If you don't like it; then there are other carriers that will take your business.
Yes, but tethering is not a network function; it's a phone function. The tethering happens after the data has been received by the phone. At that point, it is no longer traversing their network.
That would be like your ISP telling you that you can't use a wireless router in your house. Once that data comes out of the LAN side of their modem, it isn't any concern of theirs what you do with it. Or, if you want an older example, it would be like the phone company telling you that you had to only use a telephone that you rented from them. If you wanted more extensions in your house, you had to get the phone company out to install them, and you paid more for renting extra phones. It didn't matter that you still only had one line. If you wanted another phone, or a different kind of phone, you had to get Ma Bell's OK. | |
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| | | | | | | Re: Own you? And no one said they couldn't do it. However, it's still unreasonable.
And before you say that's ridiculous because these are private businesses, that's true, but they're befitting from government-imposed subsidies in the form of access to public rights-of-way and easements. Did you personally cut a deal to allow the phone and cable companies to cross your property with their lines? No? Then I dare you to go out there and dig them up. You'll find yourself charged with tampering with their equipment, even though it's on your property without your permission. And it's all because your local or state government has decided that these companies should, in the public interest, have the right to put their facilities on your property, and you have no say in the matter.
So, if you want a true free market where it's perfectly OK for any company to be able to extract anything from you as long as it's in a contract, then let's have a real free market and force these companies to have to negotiate to cross every single piece of private property. If you're going to argue that muni fiber is unnecessary because cable TV and Internet access aren't necessary services, then let's take that to its logical conclusion and deny them rights-of-way and easements. Then, once these are true private entities that receive no government subsidies, they can do any damn thing they want. | |
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| | | | | | Re: Own you? said by hottboiinnc:Yes but putting that device on a computer can and most likely will cause more strain on the network due to pulling more data over it.
So, basically you agree that the point of the fee is to make it difficult for a user to use the 2 GB of data for which they have already paid (assuming a $30/month data plan).
I am sure that all the carriers love to charge customer a fee for minimum usage and then have them use very little data.
If you have already paid for 2 GB, you should be free to use it as you wish. If you pull more than 2 GB ("..strain on the network"), then overages increase the bill. | |
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| Re: Own you? said by asdfdfdfdfdf :So what? I thought we were moving to pay per use where those who use more will be paying more to offset the costs of such additional stain.
LOL
Paying by the byte is not used to offset any costs. They would never go to a true pay by the byte system or sell internet less than the cost risking that enough people use enough of data to pay for the network.
The costs are already 100% covered with a great profit from your flat monthly price.
Paying by the byte is being implemented to prevent competition for TV services and to get extra profits.
Originaly with cell phones and the internet the price was very high so they charged lower up front fees and charged by the minute otherwise people could not afford it.
In 1995 bandwidth got so cheap and there was so much competition they went to unlimited and were greatly profitable. With cell phones they did the same thing. In the mid 2000s cell phone bandwidth got so cheap they started to offer unlimited minutes, unlimited internet because of competition.
Now with internet all the competition has been shutout with broadband and the companies are now regressing to charging by the byte to rip customers off. Cell companies are doing the same thing with wireless.
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No it won't. Will it consume more data? Yes, but it can't pull it any faster than the network allows. The carrier is selling access at a particular speed, and that's what you're paying for.
But the real reason they don't want you to actually use that speed is because the whole affair is a bunch of smoke and mirrors. The network is oversold, sometimes badly so, but they aren't going to tell customers that. It's all a juggling act. They sell you that speed hoping that you never use it because they know they can't possibly support it if a majority of their customers take full advantage of it. It's just like the airlines overbooking flights, except for two things: First, the carriers oversell much more than the airlines do, and second, if you can't get a seat on your plane, the airlines have to compensate you and get you on another flight. If the carriers ran the airlines, you could still buy tickets, but you'd be penalized if you tried to use all the plane tickets you bought. For example, if the airline overbooked 20% of its seats, you'd be expected to not use 20% of the tickets you bought. And if you wanted to use all the tickets you bought, you'd be labeled an abuser of the system. | |
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join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL | Re: Free LTE was only temporary offer. Of course it makes sense. Users who want to use it will pay for it. Those who don't want to pay for it don't get to use it. It's business. | |
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Alliance, OH | That may be true, but the same could be said for text messaging, which basically costs the companies nothing to send and receive but they charge a nice sum for it, even with unlimited. | |
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join:2003-05-07
Sandy, UT
kudos:2 | Huh? Verizon now has a cap on data so if a customer if paying for 2GB of data why should Verizon care how that customer uses it?
Is Verizon giving out free lube with each new account? | |
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| xirianPremium
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kudos:1 | Re: Huh? No, the free lube was a limited time offer. After this month all customers will be charged a monthly lube recovery fee. | |
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| dynodbPremium,VIP
join:2004-04-21
Minneapolis, MN | said by tcope:Verizon now has a cap on data so if a customer if paying for 2GB of data why should Verizon care how that customer uses it?
Is Verizon giving out free lube with each new account?
The vast majority of their customers are still going to be on the unlimited plan for quite some time; I just upgraded to the Droid 3 and was grandfathered in for 2 more years.
I doubt they care how you use your data, but rather how much of it- those who tether are likely to use much more than those who don't. With 4g LTE out, one could otherwise cancel their home broadband connection and replace it with a tethered connection if they were on the unlimited plan and tethering wasn't disabled. That's undoubtedly not how Verizon wanted their mobile network used. | |
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join:2003-05-07
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kudos:2 | Re: Huh? Then they should not sell a customer 2GB of data for $30. If a person is paying for 2GB of data then Verizon should not care how that is reached. That is where Verizon differs from every one else. They should take the good with the bad. | |
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Is Verizon giving out free lube with each new account?
Free lube? This is Verizon you are talking about. They will expect you to buy their over priced lube so they can ream you up the rear. | |
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| need the ability to.. consumers need the ability to buy a phone sans OS. The OS should be maintained by the manufacturer and/or Google. I really have never liked the idea of a carrier doing more than keeping the wireless network available. I don't expect them to maintain my devices. | |
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| | Let's charge them I say we send an invoice for our patronage. They should pay us for choosing them.
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Cleveland, OH
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| $30 more gives you tethering If you're one of the lucky ones that got in on the Unlimited Data like I am you're going to be able to keep your Unlimited Data as long as your account stays in good standing even through upgrades.
On Verizon's official Twitter feed it said that you can pay an extra $30 for tethering plus keep Unlimited Data.
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| What App Will Be Next? Now that they have determined that tethering apps are forbidden as they want to sell you tethering, what app will be next?
Google Maps or Google Navigator next? as this competes with the paid Verizon Navigation? How about Picassa/Flicker as this competes with VCast?
I fear this may squash a lot of competing apps.
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kudos:6 | Re: What App Will Be Next? Speakerphone is next. It's a form of audible tethering for others to hear and participate in your phone conversation. You'll be able to add it back for a nominal $9.99 a month. | |
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join:2002-05-15
Williamsport, PA | So tired of these companies... I am seriously considering getting rid of my smart phone and going back to a regular cell phone. These companies are intentionally stifling innovation and progress.
Charging for tethering while already on a metered plan is like being charged an additional fee by your electric company for using an air conditioner. Never-mind that you already pay for the electricity that your A/C uses. You have to pay an additional fee for the electric company to provide you with an additional service!
And people are defending this.
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Charging for tethering while already on a metered plan is like being charged an additional fee by your electric company for using an air conditioner. Never-mind that you already pay for the electricity that your A/C uses. You have to pay an additional fee for the electric company to provide you with an additional service!
And people are defending this.
There will always be trolls and there will always be astroturfers. And sadly, there will always be dumb people who defend this type of behavior for free. | |
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join:2000-10-01
Broomall, PA | No new customers. I guess these type of actions of making the phone less useful, expensive paperweights and Data gouging they really don't want new customers. Outdated concepts like bandwidth caps and Unions. HA! They never learn. | |
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| live and die by slogans rule the air seems to be a kingdom where services cost plenty and are runned (ruined) by a tyranny... AT&T put their foot in unsanatary places with their slogans in the past... rethink possible has loads of loaded meanings... like let's possibly screw customers.. let's reshape the wireless industry into a duopoly..
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| $20 is NOT a "tethering fee" It is for adding 2GB/month of data to your base tier on your data plan, if you are using tethering. Data is priced at $10/GB/month.
All they are saying is that is you tether, you have to start with a 4GB plan base at $50/month, rather than a 2GB base plan at $30/month. You don't pay extra for tethering per se. You are getting value for your $20 plan increase, namely 2GB of data.
This is exactly what AT&T did, except Verizon is $5/month higher. AT&T is at $25/month for 2GB, and $45/month for 4GB with tethering. | |
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So we are not moving to pay per use after all? I thought we were supposed to be pricing like water and electricity? My electric company doesn't coerce me into using a minimum of 1000 kwhs of electricity per month. If you have a compulsory amount of usage you have to buy then it is in no way, shape or form a pay per use scheme. | |
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| Re: $20 is NOT a "tethering fee" Not sure why you're addressing me... I never called it a "pay per use" plan and it certainly isn't... it's tiered pricing. There's a base price for so much consumption per month, and tiers above that. AT&T's happen to be linear $10/GB tiers. Verizon is a little more complicated but it works out to about $10/GB above the base. | |
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Your post was one that triggered my thoughts, that's all. I wasn't arguing against what you said.
The rationalization that has been laid for all these pricing changes is that we are moving to pay per use and I just want us to keep our eye on the ball as they try to sell us all this bait and switch. | |
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Boaz, AL Reviews:
·Comcast
| This is why I dont feel bad for having a rooted phone This is why I dont feel bad for having a rooted phone. My thunderbolt has been running gingerbread for awhile now, I dont have any reboots, the phone is fast, and battery life is alot better. Plus I didnt get this update that cripples my hotspot feature. | |
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| dkyle
join:2011-01-27
Boaz, AL Reviews:
·Comcast
| Re: This is why I dont feel bad for having a rooted phone This is also why I have turned wifi off on my phone. I used to use less that 1g of data a month because I would always let my phone connect to open wireless networks. Wifi may be faster, but I still have the unlimited plan so I plan on using every bit of it I can. | |
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| | Droid Charge I bought a Droid Charge and signed up for $30 mobile hotspot. Currently the feature does not work! When I click on mobile hotspot, it blinks for a second and nothing happens. Using the date trick allows it to work, but what the heck? I'm paying $30 for something that doesn't work properly. Does anyone else have a Charge and know what's going on? Supposedly my phone is updated. | |
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| | | Re: Droid Charge The hotspot feature worked on my phone, make sure you have wifi off before you turn it on. Now when I try to run it (I have done no system update except the one when we activated it back in June) it says checking subscription and tells me to pay up if I want to use it. | |
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| | crippling of devices it all has to do with one and ONLY one thing... GREED. I hate the American cell companies for this... It is NOT like this in other places like Asia.
When will we be treated the same??? | |
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 SeleniaI love DebianPremium
join:2006-09-22
Lanesboro, MA
kudos:2 | Way to copy AT&T, bitches You can't even come up with an original pricing scheme to lube and bend over you customers. What is it with Verizon now caring which device uses these limited bytes after they have capped them to 2GB? It's one thing with "unlimited" as the price would assume a certain usage range for certain devices. But to say where the small bucket of data I purchased goes is making me thinking of dropping all these asshole companies and buying a Straight Talk phone and wifi tablet. If it looks like AT&T and squawks like AT&T...oh wait, it's big red.
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A fool thinks they know everything.
A wise person knows enough to know they couldn't possibly know everything.
There are zealots for every OS, like every religion. They do not represent the majority of users for either. | |
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@charter.com | OWN ?? I'm happy enough with my tracfone, I don't need a fancy phone that does every thingbut wash your face , | |
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