Verizon: Cut Your Landline To Save Money Wait. Who are you and what have you done with Verizon? Thursday Jul 02 2009 11:01 EDT For years the baby bells have been trying to slow (or ignore) the death of the landline by forcing DSL customers to bundle one, whether they wanted it or not. That's why it's kind of refreshing to see this Verizon ad (pdf), forwarded to us by a reader, that actually encourages customers to drop their landline. "These days, more and more people are looking for ways to cut costs and save money," begins the ad, which says that "this is a great opportunity for you to cut down on costs by making your wireless phone your only phone." So what prompts this change of heart about the landline, which for years was an inseparable part of the carrier's bundle? Reality for one thing, and cable VoIP for another. Cable VoIP growth is explosive (Comcast's the third largest phone company), and it makes sense that the carrier advertises their strength (wireless) in the cable fight to keep defecting customers in house. Or not. "It is not a reaction to cable VoIP or cable phone customers," says Verizon spokesman Robert Elek. "The majority of the people receiving this are not Verizon landline customers," he says. "It is designed for all customers in the country." Of course Verizon is selling millions of landline customers they don't feel are profitable enough to upgrade. For years, Verizon has been under fire from unions and regulators for neglecting copper infrastructure, as the carrier focuses on FiOS and wireless, and now they're selling them. So the marketing evolution makes sense as Verizon turns its focus toward wireless and GPON fiber -- sometimes to the detriment of those last generation copper markets they're leaving behind. Elek insists to us that Verizon's focus remains squarely on the bundle, delivering the kind of hearty nod to the landline that reminds us more of the Verizon of old. "It's no secret that landline counts have declined through the years as other options have been introduced into the marketplace," he says. "That is to be expected, but many consumers still value and appreciate the utility, the security and the reliability of the good 'ol landline." |
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I love my POTS>>>>Its cheap and always works, no matter what. | |
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Re: I love my POTS>>>>The quality. Don't forget the quality. Yes, the cellphone is cheap, but most settle for garbled talk or interference. I prefer the landline (over FiOS) as it is crystal clear (can hear too much sometimes...). Yes, I can hear you now. But poorly. (I guess that is the point with Verizon, quantity over quality) | |
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Re: I love my POTS>>>>Cutting my landline would only save a few bucks, over dry-loop DSL, in comparison to my combo package. I'll keep it & my Princess phone (bbbrrriiinnnggg!!!). | |
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Re: I love my POTS>>>>I prefer Trimlines, but I do have a Princess phone or two...Western Electric made the best... LOL | |
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Re: I love my POTS>>>>I doubt that. Google does a lot of other free things and you have not seen the collapse of those markets. | |
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said by S_engineer:Its cheap and always works, no matter what. And you can cut costs by dropping the landline to just the very basic service level($8.xx/mo + taxes/fees=approx $15/mo), and using your wireless account or free Google Voice account for everything else. That is what I did. I use the landline for all the incoming calls and Google Voice & Wireless for everything else. P.S.>> It is a Verizon Wireless(45% owned by Vodafone) ad and NOT a Verizon ad. So not surprising they may be pushing wireless instead of a land line. But I wonder how long Verizon will let it's subsidiary run this campaign since it made the news? | |
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Re: I love my POTS>>>>said by FFH5:P.S.>> It is a Verizon Wireless(45% owned by Vodafone) ad and NOT a Verizon ad. So not surprising they may be pushing wireless instead of a land line. But I wonder how long Verizon will let it's subsidiary run this campaign since it made the news? Isn't Verizon basically deprecating its copper landline network? | |
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said by FFH5:said by S_engineer:Its cheap and always works, no matter what. And you can cut costs by dropping the landline to just the very basic service level($8.xx/mo + taxes/fees=approx $15/mo), and using your wireless account or free Google Voice account for everything else. That is what I did. I use the landline for all the incoming calls and Google Voice & Wireless for everything else. P.S.>> It is a Verizon Wireless(45% owned by Vodafone) ad and NOT a Verizon ad. So not surprising they may be pushing wireless instead of a land line. But I wonder how long Verizon will let it's subsidiary run this campaign since it made the news? Verizon owns 55% of Verizon Wireless. | |
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you can also cut cost by NOT HAVING A CELLPHONE...much more than not having a landline...LOL BUT THEY AREN'T going to admit that...it's all about more money for their bottom line...LOL | |
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I agree . . . The audio quality of landline far surpasses what you can get via cell, and I also like the comfort factor. It's a much more comfortable experience holding a real headset against your ear as opposed to a 4"x2" long cellphone.
Both these things make landline much better for conversations lasting more than 1 min, IMO. | |
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2009-Jul-2 12:31 pm
Re: I love my POTS>>>>said by myokitis:I agree . . . The audio quality of landline far surpasses what you can get via cell, and I also like the comfort factor. It's a much more comfortable experience holding a real headset against your ear as opposed to a 4"x2" long cellphone. Both these things make landline much better for conversations lasting more than 1 min, IMO. I only have a cell line but I never hold my cellphone up to my ear at home. I have several 1.9GHz(DECT 6.0) phones and the Xlink BTTN links my cell phone to them. So I'm able toplace a call with the cordless phones like I had a landline, only it's routed through the cell phone. | |
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said by myokitis:I agree . . . The audio quality of landline far surpasses what you can get via cell, and I also like the comfort factor. It's a much more comfortable experience holding a real headset against your ear as opposed to a 4"x2" long cellphone. Both these things make landline much better for conversations lasting more than 1 min, IMO. Not to mention all that RF heating up your brain and hot phones (batteries and hot microchips) heating up your ears. I use VOIP with a headset most times. Much more comfortable than holding a cellphone to my ear. Most of my cellphone conversations are less than 1 minute. | |
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said by S_engineer:Its cheap and always works, no matter what. I'll second that. 99% Guaranteed service (Because something can always happen), even if the power goes out, thanks to the power coming over the copper phone lines. Then again, it's not like I have a choice in the matter considering Verizon cherry picked our area (where haven't they) and chose to stop building fiber lines exactly 1 block away from me. Yes, I will take every single opportunity to point out Verizon's cherry picking. | |
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Re: I love my POTS>>>>Cherry-picking?
Do you have any idea how hard it is to lay fiber in any urban area? Consider Washington, DC and Alexandria, VA (both in the VZ FIOS service upgrade area), and, like Baltimore, heavily urban (in fact, Alexandria is richer per block than either DC or Baltimore). So tell me, fella, how come *Baltimore* is ahead of both Alexandria and DC when it comes to FIOS deployment? (I'm referring to the city of Baltimore, not Baltimore County.)
Also, what's in that block in the way of buried utility lines? Nobody, not even VZ, can dig willy-nilly where there could be ANYTHING buried in the way of utility lines. (Haven't we taken Comcast to task for doing exactly that?) What it sounds like is that YOU are upset that you personally can't get FIOS due to some other problem with what has VZ blocked from offering the service to you. | |
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Re: I love my POTS>>>>Wow, calm down Mr. corporate apologist.
It's been well-documented Verizon has been cherry picking the areas of highest ROI. They've used a legal (but still shady) maneuver to shed their debt and leave their former customers in the hands of bungling, incompetent idiots like Fairpoint.
The telcos have made promises to various state governments for years that they would roll out fiber to everyone in their footprints by certain dates, and repeatedly have taken the subsequent grants and completely ignored those promises. They've stolen almost $300 billion in grants and tax subsidies over the last 10 years. | |
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What's done is done. I love everything I get from Verizon, phone, internet and TV.
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Yep - has yet top fail me in an extended power outage and with 2 little kids and a wife - I value that. Not to mention - talking to children on a cell phone sucks. | |
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POTSAgree. I like having a second option in case the local cell phone tower goes out. Besides, my home security alarm is monitored over POTS. Yeah, I know I could switch the alarm to wireless, but last time I checked, it was expensive and its reliability wouldn't be known until it was actually installed and tested. | |
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Re: POTSsaid by Gary A:Agree. I like having a second option in case the local cell phone tower goes out. Besides, my home security alarm is monitored over POTS. Yeah, I know I could switch the alarm to wireless, but last time I checked, it was expensive and its reliability wouldn't be known until it was actually installed and tested. It's actually inexpensive. I've been saving $20 a month since i switched form dial up to broadband monitoring | |
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Re: POTSsaid by aaronwt:It's actually inexpensive. I've been saving $20 a month since i switched form dial up to broadband monitoring Really How do you figure the $20/mo? Did you cancel your landline? What about the one-time cost to upgrade the alarm system from dialup modem to wireless, or is there something different? You did say "broadband" and not wireless which has me wondering. Did it change the monthly monitoring cost from your alarm company? I wouldn't have thought so. | |
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2009-Jul-2 10:53 pm
Re: POTSsaid by Gary A:said by aaronwt:It's actually inexpensive. I've been saving $20 a month since i switched form dial up to broadband monitoring Really How do you figure the $20/mo? Did you cancel your landline? What about the one-time cost to upgrade the alarm system from dialup modem to wireless, or is there something different? You did say "broadband" and not wireless which has me wondering. Did it change the monthly monitoring cost from your alarm company? I wouldn't have thought so. I changed from ADT to NExt Alarm. NExt Alarm has a broadband adapter that can be used with dial up alarm systems. The newer systems have online monitoring capabilities built in, but mine was old so the Next Alarm was the only option for me when I dropped my landline. It ended up costing mes less per month, plus I can also get texts, and emails about the status of the system or if it goes off. I got the Full Dispatch monitoring but they also have an ultra cheap solution,, non-dispatched monitoring, that send you texts and emails of anything that occurs with teh systme but they don't call anyone, thhey leave it up to you. But for me I needed the monitoring so it was around $11 a month over the three year term I signed up for and pre-paid. ADT was around $31 a month when I left. | |
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Re: POTSThanks for the info. ADT is who I am with now and have been for years. Its one of those things I forget about and just pay the bill when it comes in. I'll have to look into NExt Alarm. Maybe I can save a few bucks on monitoring and put it towards my impending FiOS upgrade when my 2-yr agreement runs out in September and I'm faced with the $25 monthly increase. | |
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2009-Jul-2 10:39 am
Cell phones have contracts...And lock people in for a term... far as i can remember my landline didn't have a term on it (Bell Canada) but that was a while ago. | |
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POTS is necessaryIn my home I have two cell phones, 5 VoIP lines, and one POTS line. The reason I have the POTS is that I realize VoIP and cell service wont always work. Unfortunately, I had the experience of needing to dial 911 and without POTS things might have been very different. I love my VoIP, but if you care about your safety (or that of your loved ones) make sure you have a 'dial tone only' POTS line in your house. Also, dont let the FIOS techs convert your POTS line to fiber either, otherwise its not any better that VoIP. | |
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2009-Jul-2 12:33 pm
Re: POTS is necessarysaid by wifi4milez:In my home I have two cell phones, 5 VoIP lines, and one POTS line. The reason I have the POTS is that I realize VoIP and cell service wont always work. Unfortunately, I had the experience of needing to dial 911 and without POTS things might have been very different. I love my VoIP, but if you care about your safety (or that of your loved ones) make sure you have a 'dial tone only' POTS line in your house. Also, dont let the FIOS techs convert your POTS line to fiber either, otherwise its not any better that VoIP. You don't need to pay for POTS. 911 service is required to work, even on POTS lines that don't have active service. Actually, even on my fiber (GPON) service, I can plug an analog phone into any outlet and dial 911 also. And yes, fiber is MUCH different than VoIP. It's just the transport is similar. My ONT will disable the internet portion and go into a power-saving mode which only allows the phone side to work. I can get 2-3 days of usage out of it. In some cases, fiber may be more reliable than POTS, especially if you have an aerial drop from a pole, whereas fiber is buried. | |
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Re: POTS is necessarysaid by Matt3:You don't need to pay for POTS. 911 service is required to work, even on POTS lines that don't have active service. Actually, even on my fiber (GPON) service, I can plug an analog phone into any outlet and dial 911 also. That is correct, however there are times when you might need to call someone other than 911 during an emergency (family, childs school, etc.). For this reason its good to have the basic dial tone package. said by Matt3:And yes, fiber is MUCH different than VoIP. It's just the transport is similar. My ONT will disable the internet portion and go into a power-saving mode which only allows the phone side to work. I can get 2-3 days of usage out of it. In some cases, fiber may be more reliable than POTS, especially if you have an aerial drop from a pole, whereas fiber is buried. I am not implying that FIOS phone service is "like" VoIP. I am saying that just like VoIP, if there is a power outage you will very quickly be out of luck as FIOS only has a battery backup. Yes I know, they claim it will last up to 2 days but in reality a good old POTS line is MUCH more reliable. Look at what happened with the hurricane in Texas last year, those people had no power for many, many days. Bottom line is that you would need to be nuts to base your survival on a battery backup, so get POTS! | |
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Re: POTS is necessarysaid by wifi4milez:Bottom line is that you would need to be nuts to base your survival on a battery backup, so get POTS! Or a simple cell phone. Towers are much easier to replace and repair than COs and individual lines. Especially since cell towers are numerous. See Katrina for a perfect example of how the CO survived, but 750,000 people were without service because the individual lines from those COs were damaged: » www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9120503/If you do a quick search on Google, folks who suffered through Katrina and the NYC blackout of 2003 said their cell phones worked when POTS didn't: » forums.cnet.com/5208-101 ··· D=264693 | |
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Re: POTS is necessaryDon't even need a hurricane. A sufficiently vigorous thunderstorm, can lead to the same situation (and has, for me). We get plenty of violent thunderstorms around here, each year. | |
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I'd say usually if you are losing power due to something like "the hurricane in Texas last year"... you prob have lost everything else attached to the poles that got taken out too... including pots.
Not every inch of your phone line is buried from the house to your CO, and murphy has a lovely way of playing the cards... | |
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Actually, that is incorrect. Not all companies do this nor are they required. If we left every single landline facility that was disconnected as a left-in facility then we wouldn't have enough facilities available all of the time. If the address is new, for example, someone builds a new home, and never calls the telco to hook them up, then nothing gets hooked up. So this is not a requirement, at least not for the company I work for. So I surely wouldn't rely on the fact that your telco "might" allow 911 without active service, and just go ahead and get the service. If your telco does allow it, then good. But no one should automatically assume this. If you do not hear a dialtone, the phone will not work, period. | |
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2009-Jul-3 11:54 am
Re: POTS is necessarydsldude is correct the phone companies found if they leave all the connections when a customer disconnects service they can turn on new service sometimes while you are placing the service. The longer the service is disconnected the more likely parts of the line will be used on another circuit.
Here is news the major telcos are moving to VOIP because the equipment is cheaper both to purchase and operate. It may take years but that is the future. There will come a day when you will not be able to get traditional POTS service in some areas. I predict when the telcos lose enough POTS lines they will force the remaining POTS customers will be forced on to a VOIP system like in new neighborhoods with only FTTP.
In the old BellSouth region the newer neighborhoods and rural customers are on fiber to the node FTTN. If the power is lost to the site and a generator is not attached before the battery backup system is used up you lose the pots line just like having a cordless phone. | |
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If there is a 911 rule it must be state specific because when I canceled my Qwest POTS lines they went dead and I still have naked DSL. | |
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2009-Jul-2 10:56 am
security sysytems, sat TVDon't forget to plug your cell phone into the Dish and the security system...oh yah it has to be charged to...
Verizons scheme. 1st. create a wireless network. It doesn't have to be any good just has to be there. Next, Sell all your land lines to retarded companies, knowing they will fail. next, set out a campaign to discredit the takeover companies and tout your wireless network. next, Enjoy all your customers back.
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Re: security sysytems, sat TVsaid by mrkevin:Don't forget to plug your cell phone into the Dish and the security system...oh yah it has to be charged to... Verizons scheme. 1st. create a wireless network. It doesn't have to be any good just has to be there. Next, Sell all your land lines to retarded companies, knowing they will fail. next, set out a campaign to discredit the takeover companies and tout your wireless network. next, Enjoy all your customers back. It's BRILLIANT!!!! That's very insightful! I think it's also about money too. Think about it this way, the ARPU on a cell # is almost $55/mo. And when you get cell phones, they're inherently personal devices, so a family of 4 has 4 lines instead of one home phone like in the old days. And then everybody gets these more complex devices and now you sell data plans on top of that, and messaging packages, etc. So even if Verizon loses a landline customer, that money's probably going to be spent on more wireless add-ons. More time spent on a wireless handset makes the customer more likely to buy more stuff there. If you get their super-duper premium family plan, 1400 minutes over 4 lines is $220 per month. But as you pointed out, their wireline footprint is going to be so small, they're much more likely to take customers away from cable or non-Verizon ILECs. | |
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LandlineI have at least three family members who don't have landlines. In the future I am not going to have a landline. I will get DSL without having a landline. Or go back to cable modem. | |
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No landline for meI have no landline and haven't had one for over five years. Yes, cell phones can go out, but the longest outage I ever had was with my SBC landline, and that was for several days, and it wasn't even weather-related but some sort of technical problem.
The way I see it, I have two cell phones with two different carriers (personal and work phones), my wife has a cell, I have a landline at work, and I have 911 calling on my copper circuit that is used for DSL service. That's about all I need.
And basic landlines here cost around $26 with tax, so they're by no means cheap.
Now, none of this means I'd never get a landline again, but I want to see some real value in it first. When a basic landline comes with call waiting, Caller ID, voicemail, and included long distance, all for a price comparable to a low-priced cell plan, I might consider it. Give me value for my money, and I might come back. | |
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Cut My Landline? Not yet...I too, have 4 cell phones, 1 Skype North America unlimited ($30/year), and the landline at home.
Right now we have our landline as a small "buffer" for the people that we're not confident in letting them call straight to our cell phones, like telemarketers. It's still pretty cheap with RCN ($68 for phone+internet) and it covers to Canada (since we have relatives there). Skype covers to Canada too but it's only for convenient uses where the landline isn't an option.
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I like my landlineThe quality of audio on a landline still can't be beat. Cell phones don't work near as good, and digital phone while close, isn't quite there yet.
I'm not ready to give up my landline. Besises its only 20 bux a month and the long distance on it is cheaper than my cell. | |
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VZ Landline customer?Is the reader who submitted the ad a Verizon wireline customer, or not?
It would be interesting if VZW was sending these ads only to their customers who are known to not be VZ wireline customers - though I'm not sure if they're allowed to do so under CPNI cross-marketing rules. | |
| pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty Premium Member join:2002-05-02 Mount Airy, MD |
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No Landline Here EitherI cut the cord in 2003 and haven't looked back. | |
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Re: No Landline Here EitherWhen we built in 2005 we buried out service lines, including one for landline phone. It's never been hooked up to the house and we don't use it. Why pay for a service and huge taxes on top of it just so telemarketers can assault you and politicians make election year a nightmare?
Our Alltel/Verizon coverage is pretty good. No chance of cable or DSL and I could use an antenna for the wireless modem but there's no way we'll have a landline. | |
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Re: No Landline Here EitherHeh... I got one up on you... I have no idea if the phone service in my house could work!
I did run four Cat-5e lines to each room though... just in case I do get a cell phone to landline bridge. | |
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2009-Jul-2 11:49 am
voip will lead the waywithin 5 years, all phone traffic will be carried through voip...whether fixed or mobile....so landline will die together with cell phone at the same time | |
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Cell only hereGot 2 cells one is my old landline number that stays at home with the wife the other travels with me to work. Once I retire only going to keep the home number. We carry it everywhere never miss a call. I have Verizon because they have a huge network can get a signal eveywhere. They put Fios down my block 4 or 5 months ago they can keep it without a really sweet deal saving me big bucks I'm not switching cable or internet providers. | |
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There needs to be a compatibility platformI have a pots solely for dialup for work, so i can manage stuff, also for alarm system, and fax. Someone needs to make VOIP compatibility for dialup v.92 modems. At that point all POTS can disappear. | |
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Re: There needs to be a compatibility platformsaid by DaveDude:I have a pots solely for dialup for work, so i can manage stuff, also for alarm system, and fax. Someone needs to make VOIP compatibility for dialup v.92 modems. At that point all POTS can disappear. V.92 works fine with Comcast Digital Voice. | |
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2009-Jul-2 1:07 pm
Not a Verizon area?Let me guess, this must be a location where Verizon is not the ILEC. | |
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Re: Not a Verizon area?Verizon says the ad is national, and the person who received it did live in Verizon territory, but yeah -- one wonders if this isn't aimed more strongly at Qwest or AT&T areas? | |
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VZW not VZThis is from their wireless division, not VZ corporate. All they are doing is advertising friends and family (aka Alltel My Circle). I'm suprised they dident hype the Verizon Hub, ditch ur landline or Cable VOIP phone, for 35/month get unlimited calling, all you need is a broadband connection and the VZ Hub. | |
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... in a dead zone :(I actually live in a dead spot with no cell service (I've tried everyone), so I'll keep my landline. Actually its pretty cheap because we have cable and internet from Knology also. | |
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Land line goneVoip and cell only. I haven't had a land line in 2 years. | |
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2009-Jul-2 3:04 pm
I am willing to drop my landline...... if FIOS is here. | |
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While you at verizionrecycle those wires and give them to the rural company's that STILL DON'T HAVE CELL OR DSL.
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