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Verizon Demos FiOS Home Automation At CES
Will launch 'Home Monitoring and Control' trial in January
by Karl Bode Friday 07-Jan-2011 tags: business · hardware · alternatives · bandwidth · networking · consumers · Verizon FiOS
As expected, Verizon offered a little more detail on their planned FiOS home automation system this week at CES, noting that the "Home Monitoring and Control" system will come with a "nominal" fee, and will be "priced for broad usage." According to CNET, the company will sell two different starter kits -- one focused on home security and the other focused on energy monitoring -- and will then sell various add ons for additional cost. The Z-wave embedded hardware will effectively create an in-home mesh network, all controlled via the Verizon portal:

With the service, consumers can go to Verizon's portal and get information on home energy use and set up different modes, such as "home," "away," or "night." From the TV, smart phone, or PC, people can choose one of the settings to adjust the thermostat, security settings, or other networked appliances, such as lights. To make it work, people will need to purchase Z-Wave-enabled equipment, such as a wireless thermostat, Z-Wave to Wi-Fi gateway, and a dongle that lets consumers control a plugged-in appliance. The security kit will include a Wi-Fi Webcam.

The company plans to launch a trial this month in New Jersey, with broader deployment later this year. ISP executives tend to think that since they have this massive embedded customer base, it makes sense to sell them every and any service. But there's risks and high costs in trying to be all things to all people, and there's a reason these systems haven't taken off despite a decade of ISP talk. It's not clear if consumers really want their local incumbent ISPs' help turning on and off the lights, nor is it clear if remote thermostat adjustment is really very high on most consumers priority list.

Still, Verizon appears intent to find out later this year. This Verizon video offers a little more detail, but is more promotional than informative.

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Gbcue
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Fees?

Any monthly service fees associated with this stuff?

Seemed like earlier in the year, Karl alluded to some fees: »Verizon Keen On Offering Home Automation Services
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Karl Bode
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Re: Fees?

They probably wont' figure out milking possibilities and hard pricing numbers until well after the trial ends.
old_wiz_60

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Bedford, MA
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Re: Fees?

And it absolutely will not be free. It's just a question of how much they think people will be willing to pay. They would probably want to charge per device like they do with the cable boxes. This might work out to $ 2.00 for the AC, $2.00 for the dryer, $2.00 for the washer, $2.00 for the fridge, etc. The fees could well cost more than you could possibly save on your electric bill.
Justin024

join:2010-08-11
Irving, TX

Not paying the bill?

So if you don't pay your bill the lights are out?

BBBanditRuR
Dingbits

join:2009-06-02
Parachute, CO

Re: Not paying the bill?

They're not the utility, so you'll have to *sigh* flip the switches manually.

verizoncaps

@sbcglobal.net
Yeah and you know there will be usage caps on this. Some how you using the lights will strain there automation infrastructure causing expensive hardware upgrades thus leaving them with no choice but to place usage caps on the service. Also, I am sure it will stop the energy pirates as well.
Joe12345678

join:2003-07-22
Des Plaines, IL

Re: Not paying the bill?

no usage caps just paying per window, door , outlet like you pay per tv to rent there box.
watice

join:2008-11-01
New York, NY
there's no caps with verizon fios currently, so why would fios home automation be any different?
chsteiger
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Pasadena, TX

This is new?

I have had this system for almost 2 years...

»link.schlage.com/Pages/home.aspx

ptrowski
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Re: This is new?

New to Verizon, yes.
hottboiinnc
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Cleveland, OH
seems like the same company.

benc
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Security Concerns

     I wonder what steps Verizon has taken, if any to prevent security threats.

     I can see it now.  A burglar and a cracker/hacker team up.  They will hack into the system, unlock all the doors, shut off any video cameras (if any), and then....Viola!  Your jewelry and fancy big screen TV are missing.

     This also opens up new possibilities for vandalism, and making messy divorces even messier.

     Maybe they aren't going to implement electronic networked door locks and networked refrigerators from day one, but it's not such a stretch to assume that they may want to go in that direction eventually.

ilovepayin

@zoomvps.com

next up . we need a camera to monitor this

next up . we need a camera to monitor this, so that everything works right.....once they got access to your computer that now controls everything....NEXT is the camera....

see UK for how to manage your population through real fear and intimidation....and camera use.
NyNexit

join:2009-11-01
Huntington, NY

another thought

just turn me upside down and shake me down Verizon....
I wonder what (if any) responce ADT & brinks is going to have to this.
pnolte

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Chino, CA
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If it's anything like my DVR

"Your DVR is not responding at this time." I have only been to access it a couple of times in the last year. Can you imagine if this was my home heater or air conditioner. Verizon needs to get a handle on what they do now before they start adding more stuff. How hard can it be to make sure the DVR responds ALL the time.

mushmouth

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Earth

Re: If it's anything like my DVR

Sounds like you have a bum hard drive, you just need to make a call and have your dvr swapped out.

varun

@singnet.com.sg

Doomed to fail

If the intention was PR, congratulations, they've got what they wanted. If the intention is P&L profitabilty, sorry, this is going to be yet another telco-driven failure.

For the longest time I've been saying - in public fora such as the Broadband World Forum - as well as in private conversations that telcos are making a big mistake by launching home monitoring and full-frills home security systems. (1) The market for home automation is very niche and there are a ton of solutions companies attempting to sell into it. Telcos are hardly top-of-mind for a potential home automation customer. WE - readers of broandband reports - are NOT the mass audience for a service like this. Just because technology allows it doesn't mean the market exists. It's really business 101. But wait, it gets worse... (2) Someone who wants security - and is willing to pay a pretty penny - will call ADT (or one of its plethora of competitors). Who really trusts a telco to provide home security when they can do a barely passable job of Internet access and/or cable TV? And someone who wants a budget solution will opt for something free / affordable like GotoCamera (full disclosure: I'm a co-founder of the company; that said, it gives me - hopefully - SOME understanding of this space).

Bottomline: the market that these guys are going after doesn't trust them, doesn't think of them first, is small and saturated, and is a long ways away from being "real".

- Varun Arora
Founder, GotoCamera
moonpuppy

join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD

Re: Doomed to fail

What the telcos and cable companies are counting on is a "one bill" solution that many people would favor.

However, none of these companies will develop anything new but rather take off the shelf equipment from someone who has already done all the real work and integrate it with their systems.

Why reinvent the wheel? Microsoft used to sell re-branded Actiontec routers and switches years ago to compete with Linksys, D-Link and Netgear.
varun

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singapore

Re: Doomed to fail

I worked for a telco for 6 years and have no issues with them not developing something new - it's not their area of competence and, in their position, cherry-picking what's already available is the right way to go.

My issue is with the half-baked concept of telcos launching home automation and security services. The home automation market is niche - telcos are lousy at selling niche services. And bill-consolidation isn't a good enough reason for consumers to buy security services from their telcos.

- Varun.
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