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Boeing Rocks
join:2003-05-25
Hialeah, FL
clubs: | Bah,,, I pay $30 bucks extra with Tmobile which allows me to browse on my phone and tether to my laptop. Anybody else think that verizon is a ripoff? Just. Wow.... | |
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bender
Bite my shiny metal ass
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join:2005-03-19
Evanston, IL
clubs: | Re: Bah,,, who says that the phone doesn't support flash. can you not mod your phone? or do they still own the phone? | |
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join:2003-05-10
Harrison, TN | I thought the Droid supported flash? | |
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Smith6612
Premium
join:2008-02-01
united state | Re: Bah,,, The last I checked the Droid does support Flash as well as YouTube.
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join:2005-06-14
North Baltimore, OH | It will play YouTube videos on release but flash won't come out until early next year on the Droid but it IS coming. | |
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jsz0
join:2008-01-23
Jewett City, CT
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| Re: Bah,,, It may support "Flash Lite" which is somewhere in-between Flash 6 and 7 in terms of functionality and compatibility. Almost completely useless these days since most sites require Flash 9+ Adobe has announced support for Flash 10 on mobile sometime late this year on select devices with more mainstream support later in 2011. I'm not convinced they're going to be able to pull it off. They announced Mobile Flash 7 years ago, delivered a couple of buggy slow releases, and gave up. Maybe things will be different this time? | |
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justsomedude
@rr.com
| wow i tether too from my tmobile phone to my laptop but i do it for free cuz i can root my phone, good luck with that on verizon. they are going to lock this phone down like no body's business. and they just announced that they are double there Early term fees, now its like $330, that crazy. | |
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joako
Premium
join:2000-09-07
/dev/null | I pay $15/month for my AT&T data plan. I can tether my phone to my laptop and the speed test shows 3000/200
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join:2000-10-05
Collegeville, PA | Re: Same old same old Simple enough. If you actually use anything like 5GB on the phone, they're going to accuse you of tethering and move you (retroactively) to the higher-priced plan. | |
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gdm
Premium,MVM
join:2001-06-15
Mchenry, IL
clubs: | I read on BGR if you use exchange it's still $30 for unlimited data for single line or family line use. If your a business customer, i.e. large account then it will be higher. | |
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Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
 ·North State Commun..
| Re: Same old same old said by gdm  :I read on BGR if you use exchange it's still $30 for unlimited data for single line or family line use. If your a business customer, i.e. large account then it will be higher. My friend called in yesterday to get his phone downgraded and they told him no. A friend (coincidentally) posted the same thing of my Facebook page yesterday too. | |
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gdm
Premium,MVM
join:2001-06-15
Mchenry, IL
clubs: | Re: Same old same old Well the BGR report was for the Droid specifically. I didn't know they charged more for exchange use. | |
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Premium
join:2003-03-17
Maumee, OH
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| Re: Same old same old said by gdm :Well the BGR report was for the Droid specifically. I didn't know they charged more for exchange use. Like the blackberry you pay more when connecting to enterprise servers. | |
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gdm
Premium,MVM
join:2001-06-15
Mchenry, IL
clubs: | Re: Same old same old That's stupid though. ATT doesn't charge more to use exchange on personal or family plans. BIS to me is completely different then exchange. | |
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drmorley
Premium,MVM
join:2000-12-20
Park Ridge, IL
clubs:
| said by slckusr :said by gdm :Well the BGR report was for the Droid specifically. I didn't know they charged more for exchange use. Like the blackberry you pay more when connecting to enterprise servers. Except with Blackberries Verizon or whoever your carrier is has to register your phone's PIN with RIM for BES access to work. That how they get away with charging more for BES/Exchange connectivity.
With other phones they just connect to the Net and go directly to their mail server--it's not like Verizon is filtering packets looking for Exchange usage. There's no need to pay anything extra and if you're a corporate customers then your company is paying for it anyway so what do you really care?
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Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
·North State Commun..
| Re: Same old same old said by drmorley :said by slckusr :said by gdm :Well the BGR report was for the Droid specifically. I didn't know they charged more for exchange use. Like the blackberry you pay more when connecting to enterprise servers. Except with Blackberries Verizon or whoever your carrier is has to register your phone's PIN with RIM for BES access to work. That how they get away with charging more for BES/Exchange connectivity. This is incorrect. Verizon is not involved at all. I'm a BES admin. | |
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drmorley
Premium,MVM
join:2000-12-20
Park Ridge, IL
clubs:
| Re: Same old same old said by Matt :This is incorrect. Verizon is not involved at all. I'm a BES admin. Okay, go pick up a BB and only get BIS on the phone. Without changing anything with your wireless carrier let me know if you're able to complete an EA on your network.
If you are please tell me how and I'll gladly pay for the phone and ETF. I'm a BES admin and I'd love to know how to circumvent the wireless carriers ability to turn BES access on/off.
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Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
·North State Commun..
| Re: Same old same old said by drmorley :said by Matt :This is incorrect. Verizon is not involved at all. I'm a BES admin. Okay, go pick up a BB and only get BIS on the phone. Without changing anything with your wireless carrier let me know if you're able to complete an EA on your network. If you are please tell me how and I'll gladly pay for the phone and ETF. I'm a BES admin and I'd love to know how to circumvent the wireless carriers ability to turn BES access on/off. You only need to have the correct data plan and have access enabled once. Verizon doesn't do anything with the PIN. We've swapped numerous phones and we don't have to call Verizon to give them the new PIN, I just issue a new activation code and the phone handles everything else.
There is a possibly that they somehow know what the PIN is when we swap phones, but we swap phones through their web portal so unless they have some sort of IEMI/ESN to PIN database that automatically registers the new PIN with RIM, they're not updating anything. | |
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drmorley
Premium,MVM
join:2000-12-20
Park Ridge, IL
clubs:
| Re: Same old same old said by Matt :said by drmorley :said by Matt :This is incorrect. Verizon is not involved at all. I'm a BES admin. Okay, go pick up a BB and only get BIS on the phone. Without changing anything with your wireless carrier let me know if you're able to complete an EA on your network. If you are please tell me how and I'll gladly pay for the phone and ETF. I'm a BES admin and I'd love to know how to circumvent the wireless carriers ability to turn BES access on/off. You only need to have the correct data plan and have access enabled once. Verizon doesn't do anything with the PIN. We've swapped numerous phones and we don't have to call Verizon to give them the new PIN, I just issue a new activation code and the phone handles everything else. There is a possibly that they somehow know what the PIN is when we swap phones, but we swap phones through their web portal so unless they have some sort of IEMI/ESN to PIN database that automatically registers the new PIN with RIM, they're not updating anything. The PIN is linked to the IEMI/ESN and if the activation doesn't work correctly EA fails. It happens now and again and once VZW updates their records EA sails through.
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join:2005-02-07
Boise, ID | Wrong, you need to have the BES $45 plan. I have had to call the carrier numerous times to with the user on the phone to have their plan upgraded to make EA work. | |
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Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
·North State Commun..
| Re: Same old same old said by techjockey :Wrong, you need to have the BES $45 plan. I have had to call the carrier numerous times to with the user on the phone to have their plan upgraded to make EA work. I believe I said that.
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MalibuMaxx
join:2007-02-06
Chesterton, IN
·Comcast
| Re: Same old same old Exactly...
If I get an android and it has the ABILITY to tether then thats why I bought the phone for its features. I shouldnt have to pay a monthly fee for a feature of the phone unless it requires verizon to actively maintain it.
Data is data and the plans should be written in stone... 30 bucks for 5GB... 40 for 10GB etc... | |
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join:2007-04-30
Bellingham, WA
| said by Matt :That is what you have to pay for tethering now. $45 + $15 = $60. Looks like they want to keep that same price point. I don't understand why they insist on charging more for the same data usage. If I can use 5GB on my phone, or 5GB between my phone and tethering, why do they care? They are also charging $45 for the data plan rather than $30 if you are an Activesync user, so I wonder if they will now be penalized $15 more than you currently have to pay to tether? $75 instead of $60? Actually:
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Take me down to the paradise city
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
·North State Commun..
| Re: Same old same old said by Euphrates :said by Matt :That is what you have to pay for tethering now. $45 + $15 = $60. Looks like they want to keep that same price point. I don't understand why they insist on charging more for the same data usage. If I can use 5GB on my phone, or 5GB between my phone and tethering, why do they care? They are also charging $45 for the data plan rather than $30 if you are an Activesync user, so I wonder if they will now be penalized $15 more than you currently have to pay to tether? $75 instead of $60? Actually: » tech.ca.msn.com/pcworld-article.···22509198The extra 15 bucks is for business customers who are already paying that in the first place. Paying it in the first place? I'm not quite sure I understand that? My friend (and I did as well) has a Verizon phone in his name, a personal phone, and is being charges $45 for data. When he asked if he could reduce to the $30 a month plan, they said no because he accesses an Exchange server. | |
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join:2004-11-24
123456 | @Matt, more like $30 data plan, $30 tethering plan on top of the data plan, and an extra $15 to use exchange...30+30+15=$75 for just data services and that doesn't include voice...no thanks, Verizon is the biggest rip off wireless industry wise. | |
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crazyk4952
Premium
join:2002-02-04
united state
clubs: | no surprise I am not surprised at all. It just seems like all of the cell phone carriers are greedy. If people are willing to pay this much, then the carriers will continue to charge these rates... | |
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ropeguru
Premium
join:2001-01-25
Bridgeport, WV
clubs:
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| Re: no surprise said by crazyk4952 :I am not surprised at all. It just seems like all of the cell phone carriers are greedy. If people are willing to pay this much, then the carriers will continue to charge these rates... Especially when the phones are tied to specific carriers. Now, if phones were generic and could be used between carriers, then they would think twice about the high data charges. Along with the steep minute plans. | |
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
·Verizon Online DSL
| Funny...how many will switch to this? With T-Mobile's recent outage and complaints about ATT and iPhone tethering, how many people will actually switch and pay this fee?
One of the BIG reasons Verizon is doing this is because they are still selling their network and not their price. | |
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join:2008-07-22
Miami, FL
1 edit | Re: Funny...how many will switch to this? what about sprint there network is the bigger than t-mobile customer, service improved (Better than att and verizon in my opinion) and there network is about the same speed as verizon only it cost way less. For my on an Everything Data Plan (Family in my case) only cost $15 more dollar to use tether a blackberry 8330. | |
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Van
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join:2009-07-08
Washington, DC | I am sure some but I don't know anyone personally who will touch this.
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DaveNJ
No Fear
join:1999-09-01
New Jersey | Price demotivation At that price i would just get a Tmobile data card. There is no reason to pay $60 a month, when you can pay alot less, for some just as comparable. | |
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slckusr
Premium
join:2003-03-17
Maumee, OH | This isnt news. Its 30$ to tether ANY phone with Verizon Wireless. | |
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NeoandGeo
join:2003-05-10
Harrison, TN | . I currently tether for free, and I will wait to pick up the Android when I can hack it as well.  | |
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join:2003-05-10
Harrison, TN | Re: . Will the same procedure/app work for the Droid? | |
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morbo
Complete Your Transaction
join:2002-01-22
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clubs: | Was that the pricing you were looking for? giggle. | |
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megatron266
Premium
join:2007-08-11
Miami, FL
·AT&T Southeast
| What good is it... to be on the largest 3G network as Verizon advertises when you are limited to 5GBs? I don't know about Verizon's data services since when I had Verizon my phone was restricted to V-Crap. It wouldn't surprise me if they also kept an eye out on high usage users and throttled the speed as well just to make sure they don't run into network issues like T-Mo and AT&T run into. All carriers need to let their hair down and take the knots out their panties! | |
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MichaelWacey
OwlSaver
Premium
join:2005-01-30
Berwyn, PA
 ·Verizon FIOS
·Comcast
| Not Interested at that price I paid $60 a month for a USB data device. It only worked well when I was sitting in my car. Anytime I was in a building, it would drop to half or less of the speed. I complained to Verizon and they said they never promised coverage. So, no matter what their 3G maps say, their 3G service is of no use to me.
I will stick with my LG 8300 until it breaks or they come out with a smart phone with rational pricing. Between FIOS, Landline, and Wireless service, I already pay them enough each month. | |
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Premium
join:2007-08-11
Miami, FL
·AT&T Southeast
| Re: Not Interested at that price If I had a dollar for every time somebody posted/said something like this I would be able to open my own wireless carrier. I think I would call it Megatron Wireless.
It happens across all carriers a radio will always act like a radio. I tell everybody I know to read the fine print on the box/manual/phone and it states can accept any form of interference. LOL
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1 point 77
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join:2009-08-31
Amerika
1 edit | Seems like a decent deal to me Droids major competitor doesn't permit 'official' tethering with the iPhone and you end up paying $60 more for an AirCard (which is what I do). I'd gladly pay $30 instead of $60. There are likely other carriers+phones that offer a better price.
Meanwhile the terms are clear up front. If you think the Droid plans with the big ETF are overpriced, don't buy it. There is no shortage of smartphones on the market. | |
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wkm001
@cox.net
| Are you kidding me? $30 + $30 + $15 = $75
For 5G of data, tethering, and unlimited texting. Carriers are just begging to become dumb pipes. I can't imagine paying that much and not being able to even talk on the damn thing. Bring on the VOIP apps, then I might be willing to pay this on a monthly basis. | |
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insomniac84
join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN | If there is a cap, what is behind the tethering cost? They are capping at 5gb, so whether you tether or not you can't get more data. There is no additional cost at all for tethering.
This is like than charging you 30 bucks a month to enable the usb port on your phone. | |
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atuarre
Here come the drums
Premium
join:2004-02-14
Lake Charles, LA
clubs:
| RE Just more of the same people wanting something and feel they do not have to pay extra for it. You want to download videos and stuff over there wireless network, you should pay more "be allowed" to tether your device.
Kind of like how the people who look at MMOPRG's as stating that they should only have to pay the purchase price, and not the monthly recurring charge to maintain a presence in the game.
Same thing with people complaining about Blackberries. They are just like every other device. You get a voice/data plan. You can connect your Blackberry to exchange without going through BES using OWA or POP/IMAP. You want the convenience of everything synching instantly and access to contacts, tasks, etc, then you pay extra.
Too many people want something for too little or for nothing at all. | |
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Guspaz
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
·Colbanet
| Re: RE Well, my provider charges me $30 for 6GB, *including* tethering. Because if I'm paying for 6GB, I should be able to use it however I want. What does it matter if I consume my 6GB on-device or off-device? Either way, the same amount of data is consumed.
Luckily, my provider (currently) thinks the same way, although they've indicated that they intend to change this. | |
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jhboricua
ExMod 2000-01
join:2000-06-06
Minneapolis, MN
clubs:
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@mycingular.net | Re: RE F' it! Build your own cellular network or go back to talking in person. | |
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sporkme
drop the crantini and move it, sister
Premium,MVM
join:2000-07-01
Morristown, NJ
·Optimum Online
| Now we know what ATT will charge... ...when they get around to rolling out iPhone tethering. Maybe, possibly $25, but I think VZ now gives them an excuse to do this for $30 as well.
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Limegrntaln
join:2002-03-25
Buckeye, AZ
| Sounds like a mess $75 and already with a 5GB cap. And thats not even including at least $59 a month for voice. Then taxes! Thats an easy $150 phone bill and a $350 ETF.
Then your locked to the Driod for 2 years with Verizons 4G 2 months away, with the Driod not being backwards compatable. Sounds like a bad deal to me. | |
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Fibertekh
join:2008-03-18
Wakefield, RI | Not really news.. This isn't new --- that's what they charge for every smartphone tethering plan | |
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FastiBook
join:2003-01-08
Newtown, PA
·Verizon FIOS
| Re: Not really news.. Combining the data map scandal, the high pricing, the poor build quality of the droid, and the app store being monumentally successful, i can see a few hypebuyers for the droid, but for this data plan.... Maybe a very few people with specific needs. If i ever ran into a cap with my iPhone i'd be calling att and letting them know that they lost their only real world advantage with vzw. Hasn't happened in 8 months with att + iPhone, but still 5 gig, i feel bad for droid users. 
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Verizon: Droid Tethering Will Cost $30 Extra
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