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Verizon Droid X Drops Today
Verizon insists that unlike Incredible, there won't be shortages
by Karl Bode Thursday 15-Jul-2010 tags: wireless · hardware · alternatives
The latest in an annoyingly-long line of iPhone-to-Verizon rumors suggest Verizon won't be getting the iPhone until next year, but until then -- Verizon has made it clear they're hitching their wagon to Android for their summer assault. While they've had trouble getting the HTC Incredible into user hands due to OLED screen component shortages, the company today is launching the Droid X at the familiar $200 (with two year contract) price point. Verizon insists to CNET they'll have no such supply constraints. Or at least they hope so:

"While we are currently experiencing delays on orders of one of our more popular phones. We view that as an anomaly driven by a combination of supply and popularity," she said. "At present, we feel that we have done everything possible to ensure we have inventory to meet customer needs around the Droid X--the proof will be in the execution on July 15."

Some reviews peg the device as the best Android phone available through Verizon (the review still considers the Sprint EVO superior), while others like Gizmodo call the device "a showstopping phone whose potential is mutilated by ill-considered, ugly software that's poorly done." Others are busy exploring how some embedded protection systems might damage or "brick" the phone if anyone attempts to mod it.

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dellsweig
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This says it all

»gizmodo.com/5587225/motorola-droid-x-review
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aztecnology
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Re: This says it all

lol, android the new windows...

tiger72
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Re: This says it all

some good (Samsung Galaxy S/ Vibrant which just was released today for T-Mobile), and some very bad (Droid X).

Go Tarheels
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The review referenced doesn't state this is the best phone

It just states its the best phone available on Verizon. In their head-to-head test with the EVO, the EVO came out on top.
xenophon

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Re: The review referenced doesn't state this is the best phone

They both have their pluses and minuses. Droid X has better battery life and faster graphics. EVO has 4G, front facing cam and is a bit smaller. EVO battery life is probably comparable if 4G radio turned off.

I'm pretty satisfied with my EVO. Faster graphics would be nice but it's not like it's slow. I like that the EVO screen takes up most of the real estate of the phone. Am surprised to see new smartphones come out with a giant border around it, even new iPhone. Droid X is definitely larger yet has same screen size.

DroidX is definitely a top tier phone but the 'best' comes down to what you would use more, such as 4G or faster graphics. I'm able to fix EVO battery with larger battery. Can't add 4G or front cam to X.
openbox9

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Re: The review referenced doesn't state this is the best phone

I just picked up my DX. I can't compare to the EVO beyond specs, but so far I'm happy. Sprint's 4G is more marketing than anything right now IMO, and while I would've like to have seen a front facing camera in the DX, it's not a huge loss. To each their own. I'm still familiarizing myself, but so far, so good.
xenophon

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Re: The review referenced doesn't state this is the best phone

said by openbox9:

Sprint's 4G is more marketing than anything right now IMO,
I don't think it's just 'marketing' as i can get up to 7-8Mbps on my phone. But does a phone really need that much? Coverage isn't where it needs to be yet but is nice to have when tethering on the road where you can get it, really nice.

4G is currently mostly for data cards, tethering and alternative to cable modem at this time until more phone apps develop with 4G in mind. Not sure it's a big need for phones right now unless doing HQ video, which I don't do much of other than to show off.

There is one big plus for CDMA doing 4G... since 4G is a separate radio, you can talk and do data at same time. VZW is only player who can't do that now.
openbox9

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Re: The review referenced doesn't state this is the best phone

Until Clear/Sprint turn up WiMax in more markets, 4G is marketing for a lot of people. When I click between 4G and 3G coverage maps on Sprint's site, the difference is negligible. I give it two or three years before 4G is more than marketing for most.
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Re: The review referenced doesn't state this is the best phone

Yeah agree 'for most' but that's like saying ATT 3G is just marketing for non ATT 3G areas. Or VZ FIOS is just marketing since not all major markets have it.

I get WiMAX home, work and in between very solidly so it's not marketing for me. See your point though.

jmn1207
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Re: The review referenced doesn't state this is the best phone

I get 4G in many areas that I frequent in Herndon/Reston, VA. In the 5 days since I have had my HTC EVO, I have used over 3GBs of data. I am finally putting my Slingbox to good use as I have been streaming the Tour de France, and now the British Open, in the mornings; while streaming Rhapsody or Slacker radio in the afternoons.

At this rate, I'm probably going to be directly responsible for Sprint imposing caps.
openbox9

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Re: The review referenced doesn't state this is the best phone

said by jmn1207:

I get 4G in many areas that I frequent in Herndon/Reston, VA.
Really? It doesn't show on Sprint's map. Do you head closer to DC much? I'm curious what the coverage is like around the metro.

jmn1207
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Re: The review referenced doesn't state this is the best phone

The Herndon/Reston area was a test lab for 4G, and it works throughout most of Herndon and including the Reston Town Center. It is not officially listed anywhere that I can find.

It's a very localized 4G access.
openbox9

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Re: The review referenced doesn't state this is the best phone

Gotcha. That's too bad. I find it kind of odd that Comcast is reselling Clear 4G service in the metro area, but Sprint isn't.
zorxd

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many 3G networks can do 7-8 Mbps. Any HSPA network should support that.

tiger72
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Don't forget the fact that the EVO is rootable. If you root the DroidX, you're bound to brick your phone.
Big Dawg 23

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Re: The review referenced doesn't state this is the best phone

Go to Boy Genius as they show it will likely not brick. It has the same security as the first Droid which is rootable and allows for custom rom's. Now they claim the Droid X will be like the Milestone in that it can be rooted but no custom rom's.

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No doubt about that. I'll take HTC over Moto any day.

But this is a decent phone for Verizon customers. I wouldn't switch to Verizon for it, but if i was a current customer and i couldn't get the htc incredible, i would get this.
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Sliced Bread

I'm sure it's great.... I'm even a VZW fan boy...

... but I'm not touching this one b/c:

»yro.slashdot.org/story/10/07/15/···shdot%29

A device that bricks it self if it's messed with? Really? ug...

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Re: Sliced Bread

Yeah. F that alot. This would be the equivalent of MS formatting your drive if a WGA violation is detected. God forbid an application crashes in just the wrong way to blow the eFuse. Just say no to DRM that puts your data at unnecessary risk.
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openbox9

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Until I see that verified, it's sensationalistic at best. Even if it is verified, it won't affect a vast majority of consumers...myself included.
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Re: Sliced Bread

said by openbox9:

Until I see that verified, it's sensationalistic at best. Even if it is verified, it won't affect a vast majority of consumers...myself included.
Until someone figures out how to corrupt the bootloader checksum with a malformed SMS message or something.
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openbox9

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Re: Sliced Bread

Until this "eFuse" bricking is verified, I'm not worried at all.

tiger72
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Just go ahead and ask Milestone owners. They'll tell you that there's no sensationalism about it.
openbox9

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Re: Sliced Bread

So the Milestone owners are having their devices bricked?

lordfly

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AT&T Samsung Captivate (Galaxy S)

AT&T I believe is releasing this phone on Sunday the 18th.

The newest review so far is »www.mobiletechreview.com/ubbthre···er=37831

I will be picking one up as soon as it hits the stores. I was going to get the HTC Aria, but I have changed my mind.

Thoughts?

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Re: AT&T Samsung Captivate (Galaxy S)

said by lordfly:

Thoughts?
Yea, AT&T blows. Looks like it will be AT&Ts first powerhouse android phone should be interesting to see what they do to neuter this thing.
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said by lordfly:

AT&T I believe is releasing this phone on Sunday the 18th.

The newest review so far is »www.mobiletechreview.com/ubbthre···er=37831

I will be picking one up as soon as it hits the stores. I was going to get the HTC Aria, but I have changed my mind.

Thoughts?
If you're happy with ATT, then go for it.

But the phone is lauching on every carrier, including 4g version on Sprint.

T-mobiles launched today as the Vibrant.

If you aren't happy with ATT then you can switch to any of the 4 carriers and get pretty much the same phone (sprint's has a physical keyboard).
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lordfly

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Re: AT&T Samsung Captivate (Galaxy S)

said by Alcohol:

said by lordfly:

AT&T I believe is releasing this phone on Sunday the 18th.

The newest review so far is »www.mobiletechreview.com/ubbthre···er=37831

I will be picking one up as soon as it hits the stores. I was going to get the HTC Aria, but I have changed my mind.

Thoughts?
If you're happy with ATT, then go for it.

But the phone is lauching on every carrier, including 4g version on Sprint.

T-mobiles launched today as the Vibrant.

If you aren't happy with ATT then you can switch to any of the 4 carriers and get pretty much the same phone (sprint's has a physical keyboard).
I have been fine with ATT/Bellsouth/Cingular for 12 years and frankly I have no reason to change carriers. If I had unlimited funds, I would wait for Sony's Android and buy it outright. I have had the same Sony-Ericsson Walkman W810i for over 3 years. I love the thing and will still keep it, debrand it and keep it with a go-phone sim. However, I am finally ready to move on to a smartphone.

Tomek
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Physical Keyboard

I just need to wait for Droid 2 and hope they won't "fuse" it
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Dread
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Re: Physical Keyboard

Motoblur & Verizon, no thanks..
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Tomek
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Re: Physical Keyboard

Custom firmware = problem solved
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Dread
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Re: Physical Keyboard

said by Tomek:

Custom firmware = problem solved
Not the case here.
»www.examiner.com/x-57218-SF-Goog···ur-phone
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Re: Physical Keyboard

Maybe they will learn from Droid X mistakes.
If Verizon will get flooded with bricked phones, they may tell Motorola to chill

I think I will do it, get VZ contract, get droid X, brick it, cancel service within 30 days claiming disappointing phone performance. If enough people did it...

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said by Dread:

said by Tomek:

Custom firmware = problem solved
Not the case here.
»www.examiner.com/x-57218-SF-Goog···ur-phone
If that turns out to be true Moto will lose a lot of customers but i can't imagine Google agreeing to this.
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Re: Physical Keyboard

I only use the keyboard on my Droid for games, I actually love the HTC Hero onscreen. I'm looking forward to trying Swype too. I would like to see another physical keyboard though, I can't imagine playing ROMs and certain other games with an onscreen controls.

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Re: Physical Keyboard

I use swype, it is ok for short messages but i love the physical keyboard (touch pro2) for typing and browsing (arrow keys act like mouse).

I think dell lightning looks promising.

I want to see more slide down keyboards like the new blackberry 9800.
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spe1996

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supply constraints???

"Verizon insists to CNET they'll have no such supply constraints"

I guess that's why a co-worker of mine who went to a corp store a hour after it opened was unable to get one because they were sold out!

She ended up coming back to the office and ordering one but who knows when she will actually see the order!
openbox9

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Re: supply constraints???

The BB store that I just left had all of their stock spoken for with pre-orders. I received a callback from one of my VZW stores telling me that I could come get my DX if I wanted it. Location, location, location.
jca2050
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Bricking When Modded

Wow, this is very disappointing to hear. Considering the Motorola Droid is one of the most moddable Android phones there is. I have mine running a custom Froyo 2.2 ROM (BB .4) with a 1.2GHz ULV kernel, it runs super fast. Having accessibility like this is what made me want to get the Droid. I'm kind of shocked that Motorola would pull a 180 like this with the Droid X. I guess time will tell.

Z80A
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Re: Bricking When Modded

How is your battery life with the mods in non-video use?
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bricking = wrong

I can't believe they brick your phone if a modded fw is detected.

That should surely be illegal to do, esp. in regards to emergency services...

I keep waiting to hear about a really good droid (or smartphone of ANY kind). So far, all the latest smartphones just seem to lack something. Either the carrier sucks, the battery life sucks, the antenna sucks, or something else just ruins the deal.

Maybe by the time the iPhone 5 is out on a CDMA network I'll be impressed.

Until then, it just makes me sad to hear of yet another instance where something could be awesome, but due to the politics of some group of douchebags, it is clearly not as much as it could be.
jca2050
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Re: bricking = wrong

The Motorola Droid (not Droid X) is the best smartphone I've ever owned. It's highly moddable and runs great, especially after overclocking and installing a custom Froyo 2.2 ROM. I can't think of anything negative about it.

Justin024

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EVO out of stock?

I'm still waiting from Sprint regarding getting my EVO. Hell it's been two weeks and I still can't order it.

CableConvert
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Interesting Comment

I saw this posted on the site linked to about bricking your phone

"It is going to be a funny funny day the day the eFuse database goes offline or experiences a glitch, and every DroidX has to go back to Verizon.

And it WILL happen …"

eFuse is what bricks the phone...and if it is a database function, can you imagine how many people will try to hack it in retribution for locking down the phone

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2 edits

Was going to get it but it was pretty awkward

I thought this phone was supposed to SHIP with 2.2 but the store said it would be a free update next month. Being an AT&T sub, I've heard that sort of story before and a month was more like a quarter or a year if ever.

And there is some overlay software that isn't Android. I'm not a current *droid user so I don't know what it was but not all the Android handsets they had were running it. It appeared to be a GUI for embedded software running ON android, why I dunno. I figured that you could customize it to remove all the bloatware but now it seems that modding the phone may brick it. The phone in just going through the menus seemed sluggish. I was disappointed. I guess it is back to doing more research to pick a different handset.

Looks-wise the big screen was nice but the rest of it reminded me of those 90's Pontiacs with all the bolt on skirts, spoilers and stuff.
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gball
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locked bootloader

I think a lot of the real issue on the bootloader thing isn't being talked about.

I thought Android was suppose to be open? I thought thats what it was all about?

If I buy a phone with MY money shouldn't I be able to do what I want? If I want to do something that voids my warranty then so be it.

Its not just about loading custom ROM's..Its about the principle of doing what the hell I want with something that I buy that is MINE!!!

If I wanted someone else to make decisions for me on stuff that I buy I would just buy an iphone..

Its not like I am changing the baseband or anything..

If I buy a car I can mod it pretty much anyway I want. Hell I can put a custom engine in it if I want. Maybe they should lock all that out also.

Maybe all Companies should stop us from doing what we want with the stuff that WE buy with OUR money..

Hell we should just be greatful these awesome companies make stuff for us and let me decide how, what we can do with said items!!

Agent Smith

join:2008-07-07
New York

Re: locked bootloader

Maybe will happen.

»forum.xda-developers.com/showthr···t=727697
bobny1

join:2004-09-10
Bronx, NY

All Smart Phone COs full of Crap!!!

It looks like every smart phone launched lately has a supply issue. I'm starting to believe it is just *BS* move to create excitement to control and justify their ridiculous plans, fees and network issues. I find it hard to believe they can't anticipate demand and rampup production in advance.

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