Verizon Expands 7Mbps DSL AvailabilitySays the new tier is now available to 1.2 million homes ( old news - 03:03PM Wednesday Mar 12 2008) tags: dsl · business · bandwidth · telco · Verizon Online DSLWe broke the news back in 2006 that Verizon was testing a 7.1Mbps/768kbps DSL tier for markets where FiOS wasn't available. When they announced the new speed last January, they were rather cryptic as to where they were offering the service, and our users noted that internal Verizon systems and employees were rather confused, making ordering it rather difficult. Verizon today announced that they've substantially ramped up 7Mbps availability, from roughly 400,000 homes to 1.2 million: Some 1.2 million additional consumers in 12 Eastern states and the District of Columbia can now order the new ultra-fast Verizon High Speed Internet service, which provides an appealing alternative to cable Internet. . . The following locations are part of the 7 Mbps High Speed Internet expansion: Delaware, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, D.C., and West Virginia. Verizon doesn't mention specific launch markets within those states because it would highlight deployment and competitive shortcomings. Our users have been tracking which communities can get the speed, and will likely help you if you ask. The tier costs $39.99 a month (plus the usual assortment of fees) if bundled with local phone service and a one-year contract.
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someone2
@pacbell.net | Yawn Too little too late.
I previous used Verizon 3mb DSL and switched to much faster 8mb cable.
Couldn't be more satisfied.  | |
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DaMaGeINC
The Lan Man
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Greenville, SC
clubs: | 7mbps new? Come on. Pathetic. This is 2008, we should not be offering anything below 10Mbps. That should be the min when it comes to all broadband. | |
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join:2004-03-19
Here | Re: 7mbps new? I don't think anyone should have broadband unless they're licensed with certified IQ tests. | |
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IQtests4all
@cox.net
| Re: 7mbps new? said by bogey780  :I don't think anyone should have broadband unless they're licensed with certified IQ tests. Yeah, as long as the cutoff point is one std. deviation above average... That would knock off you and most other people and a leave a less cluttered, faster internet. No more bandwidth wasted on inane blogs, ugly-ass MySpace pages and fewer lame, waste of bandwidth videos on Youtube. Hear, hear for a better signal-to-noise ratio!!!  | |
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join:2005-11-23
Bangor, ME
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I don't think anyone should have broadband unless they're licensed with certified IQ tests.
your the reason this is taking so long...
by the time the self declared smarter than all butthole allows bandwidth for the real people to let thier smarts fly, gas will be 5 bucks a gallon, and civil wars announced.
feel free to make you tube vids kids, as retarded as someone elses opinion...
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| | axus
join:2001-06-18
Washington, DC | Its pretty rare that I need so much download. Upload, on the other hand, is way too slow. I'll stick with my 3Mbps until they give the 7Mbps tier at least 1Mb upload. Comcast is pretty sucky with the upload, Cox was great though. | |
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SteveCon
IBEW 2222 Boston, MA
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join:2004-09-02
Burlington, MA
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| Re: 7mbps new? said by axus :Its pretty rare that I need so much download. Upload, on the other hand, is way too slow. I'll stick with my 3Mbps until they give the 7Mbps tier at least 1Mb upload. Comcast is pretty sucky with the upload, Cox was great though. I'm curious about people complaining about upload speeds. It seems to me that the vast majority of people do not need it. I wonder if you looked at your own internet usage, how much have you uploaded in a month vs. how much you downloaded? It seems to me that tapping a few keys or a mouse click or two causes not more than a couple (hundered?) bytes sent or uploaded to retrieve kilo, mega and even giga bytes in return.
Where outside of R&D centers, campuses, and government agencies, etc. that collaborate on large projects over great distances, is a large upload bandwidth really needed? I don't mean students on campus sharing movies, etc. over popular P2P networks here or others that want to violate their ISP's TOS by running a server.. but what are you doing that requires high bandwidth upload capacities?
I'm sure there are a few that really do need it - but are there that many out there that I see bemoaning slow upload rates?
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mindfrost82
join:2003-04-19
Cortland, IL
| Re: 7mbps new? This is talking about the upload speeds, not how much bandwidth is required. I run a few remote websites and file servers, and I'm always uploading files to them from home, so the low upload speed really sucks for that. It might not be much traffic, but when I'm uploading a multi-megabyte file and it takes a long time, that's what I don't like.
Stuff like Remote Desktop would also be much better with faster uploads if I need to access my home computer from work. It would also help with my Slingbox | |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| Re: 7mbps new? said by mindfrost82 :This is talking about the upload speeds, not how much bandwidth is required. I run a few remote websites and file servers, and I'm always uploading files to them from home, so the low upload speed really sucks for that. It might not be much traffic, but when I'm uploading a multi-megabyte file and it takes a long time, that's what I don't like. Stuff like Remote Desktop would also be much better with faster uploads if I need to access my home computer from work. It would also help with my Slingbox running your own websites and servers it what a BUSINESS ACCOUNT is for. Try reading the TOS of your ISP. | |
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Matt
Gone playing Dragon Age Origins
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
 ·North State Commun..
| Re: 7mbps new? said by BF69 :said by mindfrost82 :This is talking about the upload speeds, not how much bandwidth is required. I run a few remote websites and file servers, and I'm always uploading files to them from home, so the low upload speed really sucks for that. It might not be much traffic, but when I'm uploading a multi-megabyte file and it takes a long time, that's what I don't like. Stuff like Remote Desktop would also be much better with faster uploads if I need to access my home computer from work. It would also help with my Slingbox running your own websites and servers it what a BUSINESS ACCOUNT is for. Try reading the TOS of your ISP. Try reading his post. He's not running a web server on his home connection, he's uploading files to his website FROM HOME. | |
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mindfrost82
join:2003-04-19
Cortland, IL
| Re: 7mbps new? Exactly, thank you MattE.
I know Slingbox and Remote Desktop could be considered a type of server, but its nothing like running your own website.
My work is on a T1 line and our website is hosted on it, sometimes I work at home on the website and need to upload files or VPN to work, this would be MUCH faster with a faster upload speed. | |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| said by Matt :said by BF69 :said by mindfrost82 :This is talking about the upload speeds, not how much bandwidth is required. I run a few remote websites and file servers, and I'm always uploading files to them from home, so the low upload speed really sucks for that. It might not be much traffic, but when I'm uploading a multi-megabyte file and it takes a long time, that's what I don't like. Stuff like Remote Desktop would also be much better with faster uploads if I need to access my home computer from work. It would also help with my Slingbox running your own websites and servers it what a BUSINESS ACCOUNT is for. Try reading the TOS of your ISP. Try reading his post. He's not running a web server on his home connection, he's uploading files to his website FROM HOME. I did
"I run a few remote websites and file servers, and I'm always uploading files to them from home,"
Sound like he's using his HOME connection for business to me. | |
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koolman2
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Anchorage, AK | Re: 7mbps new? He runs a few remote websites and file servers. He uploads files to those servers from home. Therefore, his servers are not on his home connection.
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james dargando
@verizon.net
| try reading his post next time. nowhere does he imply he's using his home connection as a web server; rather, he is uploading files from his home connection to his web host and he doesn't like how long it takes to upload.
if he was hosting a website at home, why would he need to upload files to his web server? | |
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Hes Dead Jim
@psu.edu | This is, after all, dsl, and 7mbps over dsl is great for the price compared to its cable counterparts. The standard comcast 6mbps/384k is $52/month if you don't subscribe to their cable tv. | |
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58ef2c0
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| Try sending a bunch of 10 megapixel candid shots of your kid's birthday party to their grandparents.
Or that digital home video of the same.
Or sending large PDFs.
Or video chat.
Try working online from home while others in the house are doing any of the above if all you have is 384 up.
It is a painful experience.
There are multitudes of legitimate non-business needs for more than a piddly upload.
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SSidlov
Other Things On My Mind
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Pompton Lakes, NJ
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| said by SteveCon :said by axus :Where outside of R&D centers, campuses, and government agencies, etc. that collaborate on large projects over great distances, is a large upload bandwidth really needed? I don't mean students on campus sharing movies, etc. over popular P2P networks here or others that want to violate their ISP's TOS by running a server.. but what are you doing that requires high bandwidth upload capacities? I'm sure there are a few that really do need it - but are there that many out there that I see bemoaning slow upload rates? ME! I BEMOAN UPLOAD RATES! See my 2003 post (when I had 1mb UPLOAD! »Re: Capping Discussion Here Only - Part 6 ) Now, I have 1 and 2 GB cards, and can have 800-1600 photos to upload to Kodak after a busy day shooting, WHY even with my 2mb upload does it take so long!! (Capping isn't a issue anymore, they stopped capping users for excessive uploads.)
And for other reasons, this thread segment also from 2003: »Re: Capping Posts.......
(Oh and as an aside, I qualified for 8mb DSL from Bell Atlantic back in 2000....so, I think that this verizon thing is just bull unless it's very cheap compared to back then when it was expensive and in excess of $100 a month, but the upload is less than what I get today with cable (15/2mbps) and if I spent $10/mo more (aka $55/mo), I could get 30/5mbps.)
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join:2006-04-02
West Des Moines, IA | Re: 7mbps new? Standard upload for Qwest DSL with 1.5, 5, and 7 meg lines is 896k. 3 meg has a 640k upload and 256k has a 256k upload.
The standard supports up to 1024k for the upstream but on any normal circuits it's difficult to get. | |
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jt66
@comcast.net | keep in mind not everyone needs that kind of service. they will needs a slow and lower cost service for mom and pop. there is alot of people who check email only. they dont need 10 mb. | |
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Matt
Gone playing Dragon Age Origins
Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
·North State Commun..
| Re: 7mbps new? said by jt66 :
keep in mind not everyone needs that kind of service. they will needs a slow and lower cost service for mom and pop. there is alot of people who check email only. they dont need 10 mb.
This is a logical fallacy.
Of course they need 10Mbit, both up and down. Even my daughter's 60-year old grandparents send tons and tons of photos. If everyone had 10Mbit connections to send/receive, they would obviously be able to send and receive their pictures faster. If everyone had 10Mbit, sending home videos starts to become feasible as well. | |
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The_ANoN
@verizon.net
| Re: 7mbps new? I wonder if these speeds will then be offered by resellers?? I could sure do with an upgrade from this 3/768. And $40/mo? Thats what Im paying now so it wouldnt hurt. Yeah 7Mbps may be slow to you Cable users, but its much better than this 3Mbps (and best of all, its CHEAPER). And I couldnt care less about the upload. | |
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P2p Shouldn't Be A Crime
join:2001-08-27
Lancaster, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
·DSL EXTREME
| Re: 7mbps new? 7.1/768 is in no way a new tier. It may be a new offering on Verizon's network itself, but other DSL ISP's which connect with Verizon circuits to provide DSL to Verizon phone customers have been able to get 7.1/768 for several years now. Heck I had a local DSL ISP in 2004 and I had 7.1/768 then.
In fact I never have understood why Verizon online itself never offered 7.1/768 to it's customers, when other DSL providers, such as DSL extreme, who connect with the same Verizon equipment, offered the package to their users. You'd think Verizon online would want to offer that tier to it's users, since after all the DSLam's can already do it and are already doing those packages with other providers.
Regarding faster upstream, I think we all could use more of that. People want to do more online, whether that be high quality streaming audio/video, file backup, or whatever, the internet is not one way, and should be treated as a true 2 way network, where one can both send and receive data at a respectable speed. | |
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join:2006-12-06
Indiana, PA | This coming from someone who is stealing internet to start with  | |
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a333
A hot cup of integrals please
join:2007-06-12
Rego Park, NY
·Cingular Wireless
·Verizon Online DSL
| Re: 7mbps new? I wouldnt mind... heck, my parents think 768K is fine, and I have a hard time making them pay the extra 15 bux for 3/768, let alone $25. A lot of people don't need multi-megabit uploads, which cable doesnt provide consistently anyway. Anyway, 7.1/768 for an uncapped, un throttled (READ: All you comcastic users..) is a pretty damn good deal.
Could the upload be better? Sure, and I'm sure it will, with the increased deployment of ADSL2+. Heck, I'm writing this over an ADSL2+ enabled line.
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a333
A hot cup of integrals please
join:2007-06-12
Rego Park, NY | say that to AT&T | |
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Matt
Gone playing Dragon Age Origins
Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
·North State Commun..
| Re: 7mbps new? said by Tzale :There is only so much bandwidth you can pull out of a century old copper phone network using DSL technology. -Tzale I don't think AT&T ever got that memo unfortunately. | |
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| said by DaMaGeINC :Come on. Pathetic. This is 2008, we should not be offering anything below 10Mbps. ADSL technology limits are 8192kbps down, 896kbps upload
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DaMaGeINC
The Lan Man
Premium
join:2002-06-08
Greenville, SC
clubs: | Re: 7mbps new? Then thats a technology that is done for and dieing. | |
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DrDonutMan
@bellsouth.net | ATT Wonder when AT&T is going to jump on board(768k upload). | |
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Tzale
Proud Libertarian Conservative
Premium
join:2004-01-06
Sweden
·Verizon FIOS
·Optimum Online
| Re: Techology vs Limitation said by jbob :So is this increase above the 6 MB DSL barrier a new technology thing or is Verizon the first DSL provider to offer speeds above the standard 6 MB limit for competitive purposes? I don't keep up with DSL tech much so am curious. For me I'm happy with my better than T-1 speeds at home with my Comcastic 16/2 connection.  DSL is a dead technology... But I'm sick of people who are saying that Verizon is pathetic for offering more bandwidth..
I'm sure if Verizon could pump 50mbps down a DSL line, they would... The technology just isn't there.. They know that FIOS is going to save them in the end since DSL is falling behind.
-Tzale
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SuperJoker
join:2005-11-21
Yermo, CA
·Verizon Online DSL
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| Re: Techology vs Limitation said by Tzale :said by jbob :So is this increase above the 6 MB DSL barrier a new technology thing or is Verizon the first DSL provider to offer speeds above the standard 6 MB limit for competitive purposes? I don't keep up with DSL tech much so am curious. For me I'm happy with my better than T-1 speeds at home with my Comcastic 16/2 connection. DSL is a dead technology... But I'm sick of people who are saying that Verizon is pathetic for offering more bandwidth.. I'm sure if Verizon could pump 50mbps down a DSL line, they would... The technology just isn't there.. They know that FIOS is going to save them in the end since DSL is falling behind. -Tzale Yep, DSL's a dead duck, DSL just doesn't know that yet, In any case Verizon is most likely offering this speed to retain customers in areas where FiOS has not been deployed as of yet.
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Tzale
Proud Libertarian Conservative
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join:2004-01-06
Sweden
·Verizon FIOS
·Optimum Online
| Same old... Why does this site continue to post DSL news? All it does is bring out the anti-Verizon crowd... It's not like Verizon is saying that DSL is the next generation broadband solution... It's simply helping people who don't have any other option right now...
-Tzale
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firephoto
KDE
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join:2003-03-18 | Ex-GTE screwed like usual. 1500/348. Nothing more, maybe less. | |
| hescominsoon
join:2003-02-18
Brunswick, MD
·Comcast
·Verizon Online DSL
| rofl nice try(read my review of isp's in my profile) When i moved into my house nearly 5 years ago they offered 7.1 to me. I took the three. Then my bandwidth got chopped. After more than one snide comment form technical support i jumped to comcast. I have doubled my bandwidth in both directions for the same money as my dsl. Now they are offering the 7.1 to try to keep up with cable where fios is not being deployed yet..not going to happen for at least 10 months here.
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@verizon.net | 7.1 and no mention about So Cal guys gettin any love... lameee. | |
| | electridan
join:2001-10-23
Fontana, CA | Re: 7.1 Socal guy here...just got fios 2 months ago...stable 15/2 conection. | |
| | grumpy3b
join:2001-12-11
Lompoc, CA | dang skippy we are the red-headed step-child for Ver-krappen...especially if they are the ONLY provider in the area. | |
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