Verizon Family Data Plans Now Available Say Hello for $15 Per Additional Gigabyte Over Your Cap Earlier this month Verizon announced that they'd soon be offering some long-expected family data plans, which allows devices and users to pull from the same pool of allotted monthly data. Verizon's website notes that the plans are now officially available, Verizon telling new plan users they "recommend" 2GB of data for each device you add on to your plan. That means two smartphone users would pay $40 per phone just to connect, in addition to $70 for a 4 GB pool of data (plus the usual assortment of fees). You'll pay a rather steep $15 for each gigabyte over the cap you travel -- up from the already obnoxious $10 per gigabyte. Whether you save money on the new plans depend on what kind of user you are -- though even Verizon's CEO acknowledges the plans in general will mean higher prices for most users. The plans are designed to protect Verizon from the declining use of voice minutes and SMS -- giving users unlimited text and voice, but charging them a per device fee to connect to the network -- on stop of steep per byte usage fees. The move prevents users from switching to cheaper SMS and voice plans with fewer minutes in order to save money, helping to keep your monthly bill high by simply jacking up the price of data. One nice thing among all of the pricey overages is that Verizon will no longer be charging users an extra "because we can" fee should they want to use their smartphone as a mobile hotspot.
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Howell, MI | No hotspot few eh? This would be cool if the Rezound Hotspot app didnt lose data after 2 minutes and force the phone to be reset. I rooted and run an ICS rom, the mobile hotspot app for rooted phones works great. | |
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San Luis Obispo, CA | Re: No hotspot few eh? Yes, nothing like a rooted Android phone(HTC incredible) for proper hotspot use(MIUI-my preferred dessert). And I'm using my iPad3 at the moment via this particular HTC phone and lov'n it. Looks like from now on I'm paying full fare for a new smartphone since a subsidized phone will cost me unlimited data if I go that route in 6 months. Not happe'n with this dude. And I like unlimited data. Even if it's 3G.  | |
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kudos:1 | I haven't had any problems with the Rezound hotspot. I use it as a hotspot all day long and stream music with a Logitech Squeezebox, watch Slingbox, Netflix, or Xfinity On Demand, or MLB at Bat TV on either my iPad and/or iPod. Two coworkers sometimes use their iPhones on my connection.
No problems to report. I watched the entire Spain v. Portugal game yesterday and the Nats v. Rockies game today without any issues. Running a completely stock device. | |
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Billings, MT | WTH? Um.. I thought Family Data Plans were supposed to be cheaper? At least that's how they sold it to consumers.
What a crock of crap. Looks like alot of people are probably going to jump ship and go with Straight Talk.
I'm going to be one of them, even though I'm grandfathered in. I can't justify paying $160/mo for what I have. | |
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| Re: WTH? Straight Talk doesn't run on VZW unless you want a limited selection of non-smartphones. Which is fine, but not comparable to Share Everything.
As for making things cheaper, technically the family plan still does...4GB of data shared between two smartphone lines ends up costing $75 per month per line...you'd have to get Verizon's lowest-minute individual plan with no texting to match the data for that price *though folks with double data on individual lines obviously come out ahead on the individual side).
Of course, comparing Share Everything with Verizon's individual plans may not be as apt as, say, comparing them with family plans (or inidividual ones) from other carriers, postpaid or prepaid. Though, on teh third hand, i a shared data allotment allows folks to buy less data overall (versus paying $30-plus per month per line for smartphone data), that's good.
A friend of mine is thinking of moving his family to the VZW Share Everything plan when the LTE iPhone comes out. Six lines, all of them smartphones, with 10GB of shared data would work fine, assuming family members keep their data usage low (which they have).
Don't get me wrong. The only VZW devices my family has are Tracfones (no contract, no data) and an iPad (mine, no contract). Sprint, via Virgin Mobile or directly, gets more of our monthly money than Verizon because with Sprint no one has to worry about data usage (though, to be fair, even i don't use a ton of data on my phone). What's funny is we have six cellular lines (just phones) spread over three carriers and are still doing better than if we bundled everyone up into a family plan. That's the flexibility of going with cheap prepaid for those who don't need super high end smartphones, and sticking with an old, cheap Sprint plan for the one person who wants the latest and greatest (yours truly). | |
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Atlanta, GA | Re: WTH? Indeed, I pay a little more than 75 for 300 minutes, 0 texts and unlimited data. I'd switch carriers since I'm pretty sure there's much better deals available, but every where I've lived, everyone who doesn't have verizon has absolutely terrible service. | |
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Camden, TN | said by iansltx:Straight Talk doesn't run on VZW unless you want a limited selection of non-smartphones. Which is fine, but not comparable to Share Everything. They have ONE phone. Not 4G; not high end but it cost $179. So I'm no sure if you're saving anything with straight talk. | |
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| Re: WTH? Straight Talk has SIM-only plans ($45 plan only) that run on AT&T and T-Mobile. All their smartphones (they have multiple; the Ascend II, a few LG Optimus variants and the Samsung Galaxy Precedent are among them) that they sell directly run on Sprint. | |
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Camden, TN | Re: WTH? said by iansltx:Straight Talk has SIM-only plans ($45 plan only) that run on AT&T and T-Mobile. All their smartphones (they have multiple; the Ascend II, a few LG Optimus variants and the Samsung Galaxy Precedent are among them) that they sell directly run on Sprint.
Awesome I let you know when at&t offers something more than edge in my area. Sprint, coverage, what's that? T-Mobile? Maybe if I lived 50 miles away where there is actual coverage. Verizon has the best coverage in my area so I would only be interested in a phone that ran on their network. | |
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kudos:2 | Re: WTH? In that case, pick up a Verizon phone and activate it on Page Plus.
Some of us actually have good coverage from all four carriers. | |
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So 100/month for 2Gb data and unlimited talk with Verizon. $45/month for straight talk with the same thing. So if you save $55 a month for 24 months you could buy a $1,320 phone off contract and break even. That's a darn good phone! I don't get how Verizon thinks they can charge these prices. Is anyone actually going to pay for this crap? | |
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kudos:2 | Re: WTH? said by joe94395:I don't get how Verizon thinks they can charge these prices. Is anyone actually going to pay for this crap? I'm sure your question was rhetorical, but just in case, the answer is yes. Many have argued for some time that VZW is the most expensive wireless provider, yet it continues adding subs every quarter. I doubt that changes anytime soon. Even after subscriber growth levels off, shared everything plans are designed to make adding additional devices easier. So, sub growth will eventually decline, but it'll be offset by device growth. | |
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Billings, MT | I've got the Straight Talk SIM card in my Captivate. For the month I abused it, it worked perfectly and without issues.
..it was on the at&t network, but I didn't have to pay at&t's prices. | |
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kudos:2 | said by Simba7:Um.. I thought Family Data Plans were supposed to be cheaper? Who said that? I'm amazed if anyone thought a modification of plans/tiers would result in lower costs for most consumers. Family data plans have been price increases in the works for years. | |
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Lake Charles, LA | Re: WTH? The new shared data plans are saving me over $60/month... | |
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kudos:2 | Re: WTH? Congrats. I imagine you're a rarity. I would pay ~$20 more since I don't currently pay for text messaging or more than the minimal talk time for my family plan. Out of curiosity, what's your old vs new plan. | |
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| said by Brigrat:The new shared data plans are saving me over $60/month...
Please tell us how. What you were on, and what you're on now. | |
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Camden, TN | said by Simba7:Um.. I thought Family Data Plans were supposed to be cheaper?
for some it is. for some it's not.
For example
Old plan 2 smartphones 700 minutes family plan, unlimited family texting, two $30 data plans with 2 GB each. TOTAL $160
New plan A: 2 smartphones unlimited minutes and texting 4 GB data $150.
New plan B: 2 smartphones unlimited minutes texting 6 GB data $160.
So with the new plans one either saves $10 for the same amount of data or for the same price get 2 GB more data. Not to mention the ability to use their phones as hotspots which used to cost $20. | |
| | | amarryatVerizon FiOS
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Marshfield, MA Reviews:
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| Re: WTH? said by BF69:said by Simba7:Um.. I thought Family Data Plans were supposed to be cheaper?
for some it is. for some it's not. For example Old plan 2 smartphones 700 minutes family plan, unlimited family texting, two $30 data plans with 2 GB each. TOTAL $160 New plan A: 2 smartphones unlimited minutes and texting 4 GB data $150. New plan B: 2 smartphones unlimited minutes texting 6 GB data $160. So with the new plans one either saves $10 for the same amount of data or for the same price get 2 GB more data. Not to mention the ability to use their phones as hotspots which used to cost $20. But Old Plan could have been either grandfathered unlimited data, or the 4GB/phone data promo.
The hotspot benefit really benefits Verizon because if you actually take advantage of making your phone a hotspot for more than a few minutes of surfing, you'll be paying overages with a measly 2GB of data as your limit. | |
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Camden, TN | Re: WTH? said by amarryat:said by BF69:said by Simba7:Um.. I thought Family Data Plans were supposed to be cheaper?
for some it is. for some it's not. For example Old plan 2 smartphones 700 minutes family plan, unlimited family texting, two $30 data plans with 2 GB each. TOTAL $160 New plan A: 2 smartphones unlimited minutes and texting 4 GB data $150. New plan B: 2 smartphones unlimited minutes texting 6 GB data $160. So with the new plans one either saves $10 for the same amount of data or for the same price get 2 GB more data. Not to mention the ability to use their phones as hotspots which used to cost $20. But Old Plan could have been either grandfathered unlimited data, or the 4GB/phone data promo. No it wouldn't. Not all of us have unlimited data or the "double your data" promo.
The hotspot benefit really benefits Verizon because if you actually take advantage of making your phone a hotspot for more than a few minutes of surfing, you'll be paying overages with a measly 2GB of data as your limit.
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| Re: Monthly line access fee differences are unjustified. The differences "theoretically" are device subsidies and subsidizing Apple devices, because Verizon surely pays more for an iphone than say a razr Maxx even though they can be had for the same price or more for the maxx. Just ask sprint and at&t how Apple bent them over too.
If you take the 24 month accrual, that is the cost of a leaseback plus a generous cost of sales and gulfstream fractional shares. Now the only one that is sketchy is the tablet, but that is done to offset the loss in revenue from one-off plans which were $20-$30 and to prevent device creep, the exact reason they are now offering hotspot for free (duh to get those wifi only tabs which are 90% of the market).
Because if you prepay, $10 will get you 2GB which is a LOT of data for a tablet. Today a tablet is mostly a casual stationary device, so when you are using it wifi is readily available. So unless they can coerce tablet users to suck up 4G data it's not much of a money maker.
Also, there is nothing stopping people from using the tablet as a phone/texting replacement. You don't think that companies have 7 inch and 5 inch tablets in the back burner. Today most people think of tablets as 9.x inch ipads....Thanks to the android ecosystem they will come in all flavors. Once they get smaller the line between phone and tablet blur.
Wait until they ship SMS/voice on LTE and then smartphones/tablets are pretty much fungible.
Now by commiserating w/ the cablecos they can kill free wifi and now you are talking. Let the dollars roll in.... | |
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Billings, MT | Re: Monthly line access fee differences are unjustified. said by elefante72:Because if you prepay, $10 will get you 2GB which is a LOT of data for a tablet. Today a tablet is mostly a casual stationary device, so when you are using it wifi is readily available. So unless they can coerce tablet users to suck up 4G data it's not much of a money maker. Depends on what you use it for. I can eat 2GB in a week on my phone and probably faster on a tablet.
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kudos:48 | Re: Monthly line access fee differences are unjustified. said by Simba7:said by elefante72:Because if you prepay, $10 will get you 2GB which is a LOT of data for a tablet. Today a tablet is mostly a casual stationary device, so when you are using it wifi is readily available. So unless they can coerce tablet users to suck up 4G data it's not much of a money maker. Depends on what you use it for. I can eat 2GB in a week on my phone and probably faster on a tablet. Yeah I agree, except on a tablet I could eat that 2GB on the 1st day, just downloading apps, and checking out videos online.....
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| | | | | | | Re: Monthly line access fee differences are unjustified. said by mmay149q:said by Simba7:said by elefante72:Because if you prepay, $10 will get you 2GB which is a LOT of data for a tablet. Today a tablet is mostly a casual stationary device, so when you are using it wifi is readily available. So unless they can coerce tablet users to suck up 4G data it's not much of a money maker. Depends on what you use it for. I can eat 2GB in a week on my phone and probably faster on a tablet. Yeah I agree, except on a tablet I could eat that 2GB on the 1st day, just downloading apps, and checking out videos online..... Matt If you know that you WILL be updating and download every app, have a cap, it may be best to save it for a WiFi zone...
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kudos:48 | Re: Monthly line access fee differences are unjustified. said by Nsane_iceman:If you know that you WILL be updating and download every app, have a cap, it may be best to save it for a WiFi zone...
Yeah I agree, the only problem is that I'm very mobile, and almost NEVER have accessible WiFi around me, I can't connect at work due to the firewall blocking almost everything, my friends I hang out with most of the time don't even have a computer or the internet, and the only place I could do this would be at home... Mighty inconvenient to pay for something I can't use, that's why I'd just buy the WiFi only version and tether from my phone...
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Camden, TN | said by mmay149q:said by Simba7:said by elefante72:Because if you prepay, $10 will get you 2GB which is a LOT of data for a tablet. Today a tablet is mostly a casual stationary device, so when you are using it wifi is readily available. So unless they can coerce tablet users to suck up 4G data it's not much of a money maker. Depends on what you use it for. I can eat 2GB in a week on my phone and probably faster on a tablet. Yeah I agree, except on a tablet I could eat that 2GB on the 1st day, just downloading apps, and checking out videos online..... Matt it's called Wi-Fi. try it. | |
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Billings, MT | Re: Monthly line access fee differences are unjustified. said by BF69:it's called Wi-Fi. try it. Do I really have to repeat myself again about WiFi? | |
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Camden, TN | Re: Monthly line access fee differences are unjustified. said by Simba7:said by BF69:it's called Wi-Fi. try it. Do I really have to repeat myself again about WiFi? yes you do. if you are at home then there is ZERO reason not to use Wi-Fi unless you do not have internet at home. | |
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Billings, MT | Re: Monthly line access fee differences are unjustified. said by BF69:yes you do. if you are at home then there is ZERO reason not to use Wi-Fi unless you do not have internet at home. ..and who says I'll be using the tablet all the time at home? I've got my desktop and laptop for that.
Until I can get WiFi access just like I can get 2G (or better) access, it is not an alternative. | |
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And after suffering through a Droid X and the mess that is Android I'm glad to have upgraded to an iPhone 4s on Sunday so I could keep my unlimited data. I do miss the bigger screen but the phone is so much better than the Andoid offerings and it actually is a reliable phone. | |
| | | amarryatVerizon FiOS
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Marshfield, MA Reviews:
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| said by elefante72:The differences "theoretically" are device subsidies and subsidizing Apple devices, because Verizon surely pays more for an iphone than say a razr Maxx even though they can be had for the same price or more for the maxx.
Theoretically yes, but if that's the case, then why after your contract is up don't your rates go down? Your bill remains the same whether or not you have a subsidized phone. | |
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Camden, TN | said by davidhoffman:A byte is byte no matter if it is on a smartphone or a tablet. Why the big differences in line access? Soon enough voice, messaging, and data will all be LTE. It will not matter if I use my Dick Tracy wrist watch, a 20 inch tablet, a 15 inch laptop, a mobile hotspot, or a modem.
Can you make phones calls over a tablet or USB dongle? Verizon doesn't plan to even start to offer voice over LTE until next year at the earliest. And even then it will only be optional. Closer to 2016 before the go 100% LTE. | |
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kudos:1 | Re: Monthly line access fee differences are unjustified. Skype on the tablet, google voice on a windows device with a usb dongle. | |
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Camden, TN | Re: Monthly line access fee differences are unjustified. said by AVD:Skype on the tablet, google voice on a windows device with a usb dongle.
Well then dump the smartphone and use tablet since it's only $10 per month instead of $40 like a smartphone. | |
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Santa Monica, CA | said by davidhoffman:A byte is byte no matter if it is on a smartphone or a tablet. Why the big differences in line access? Soon enough voice, messaging, and data will all be LTE. It will not matter if I use my Dick Tracy wrist watch, a 20 inch tablet, a 15 inch laptop, a mobile hotspot, or a modem.
No, it isn't.
A lossy/untimely/retransmittable/compressible byte, at 3 AM on Sunday on a tower in Podunk, has a very different value from a real-time byte delivered at 5 PM on the expressway.
A torrent bit that can wait for days as steerage-class, a mesh-network utility billing packet, a SCADA transmission, surveillance data, multicast audio, PTT, buffered video streams, or toll-free delivery bought in bulk by Netflix, all have different values.
To you, none of this matters, and there is no way the average consumer wants to deal with a dynamic meter element - even if the carriers could prove its accuracy. So they have to come up with very simple, broad strokes, to address the statistical differences in consumption across 200 million customers, that can be understood in the blink of an eye by Mom.
Thus, you get flat-rate fees for uses that predictably consume more of the potential quota of "bytes" that you think you're entitled to consume 100% of. | |
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| Re: Monthly line access fee differences are unjustified. Hypothetical scenario:
I have a Android Smartphone, an iPhone, an iPad, an Apple laptop, a Windows netbook with built in cellular card, a hotspot device, and a USB cellular modem connected to a laptop. All are pointing at the same web link to download the exact same video from the content provider. If they all get clicked at the same time, they all will be doing the same thing, downloading a video file. Why are the line access charges for doing the same task going to be different for each of those devices? I will be using the same amount of bytes to get the file.
I get the idea of QOS for different uses like e-mail vs video chat. I just want the ability to add any type of device to my account for the same line access charge. Why does adding a tablet only cost $10 and a basic phone cost $30? Some children with tablets or iPads, sitting in the family luxvan traveling along an interstate highway at 80mph watching streaming videos over LTE, get a lower line access charge than a person with a basic phone who does voice and plain text.
This entire new plan system seems designed as one big confusing money grab. So far I have not found any savings from calculating costs under the new plan. I would end up paying significantly more than I do now. | |
| | | | | said by elray:said by davidhoffman:A byte is byte no matter if it is on a smartphone or a tablet. Why the big differences in line access? Soon enough voice, messaging, and data will all be LTE. It will not matter if I use my Dick Tracy wrist watch, a 20 inch tablet, a 15 inch laptop, a mobile hotspot, or a modem.
No, it isn't. A lossy/untimely/retransmittable/compressible byte, at 3 AM on Sunday on a tower in Podunk, has a very different value from a real-time byte delivered at 5 PM on the expressway. A torrent bit that can wait for days as steerage-class, a mesh-network utility billing packet, a SCADA transmission, surveillance data, multicast audio, PTT, buffered video streams, or toll-free delivery bought in bulk by Netflix, all have different values. To you, none of this matters, and there is no way the average consumer wants to deal with a dynamic meter element - even if the carriers could prove its accuracy. So they have to come up with very simple, broad strokes, to address the statistical differences in consumption across 200 million customers, that can be understood in the blink of an eye by Mom. Thus, you get flat-rate fees for uses that predictably consume more of the potential quota of "bytes" that you think you're entitled to consume 100% of. Ahhh ok, but you do realize they have flags for this right ? flag 5 gets lowest priority as long as it gets there its ok, aka low priority, 3 is web traffic 1 is real time must be there, these provider classify traffic through the tower just like comcast does on their network.
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| mmay149qPremium
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kudos:48 | These plans wouldn't even save money for me And they would get rid of my unlimited data... This is absolute crap, I clicked on the "See which plan is right for you" link, selected 2 basic phones, and 1 smartphone, 0 - 1500 minutes, (I have the 1400 minute plan and we maybe use half that a month) 5000 + messages, and 10GB + of data a month... My total for the plan would of come out to $200 per month, which is what I pay now...
This is a joke, I'm only on day 3 of my reset from data usage and have already used 2.364GB of data... how can anyone live off 2GB of data?!?! How do they expect this to work? Because I'm just lost... this is probably the worst thing I've ever seen a company do so far to date with their data plans.....
Edit: At least they have this offering if you need more than 10GB of Data... Data overage is $15 per 1GB. Need more than 10GB of data? Add 2GB for $10 by logging in to My Verizon.
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| | | | Re: These plans wouldn't even save money for me We'd wind up paying more. Right now, we have a Family share plan with 4 phones: 2 Androids with 4GB of data each (there was a 4GB for price of 2GB special recently), 1 iPhone with 2GB of data, and 1 non-smartphone with no data. Right now, we're paying about $200 a month (before taxes/fees).
Our total data usage is around 7GB, so we would need to pay for 8GB of data as well as for 3 smart phones and 1 non-smart phone. That would mean paying about $240 a month. So we'd need to pay $40 a month extra or $480 extra a year.
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kudos:48 | Re: These plans wouldn't even save money for me How ridiculous, this is eventually going to end, just like eventually our socialism government, and policing the world will end, it's just unsustainable, people aren't going to continue to pay higher prices for the same thing, especially not higher prices for data that completely is unreal compared to real world economics. The only way this family shared plan would EVER be useful to me is if they had a double/triple down play like what they did with the individual plans for phones.
The most I've ever used on my Droid Bionic in 1 month is about 25GB's, so if I could get 30GB's on a plan, I'd be set, the other person on my plan (my father) doesn't have a smart phone, but if I could get 30GB's I'd get him one, probably an iPhone for simplicity. I'm just going to wait it out and see what Verizon does, if not it looks like it's unsubsidized phones for me until Verizon eventually kills off that upgrade path as well.
Then it will just be keeping my device until it's no longer supported and gets broken and the warranty has to replace it with a "model equal too" what I had. If Verizon wants to keep playing games with customers that's fine with me, I'll keep playing along and finding my loop holes as long as I can, and if I no longer have that choice, then it looks like I'll just go to a basic phone with no internet and the ability to call and text people.
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Camden, TN | Re: $15 a GB. The Future is 1892 said by KrK:Ah, our internet future.
The lack thereof.
Then get more data for $5 a GB( in 2 GB blocks ). You can get up to 20 GB of data for $150. | |
| | | KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
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Tulsa, OK | Re: $15 a GB. The Future is 1892 Yes, yes, because $5 a GB is such a reasonable price point. | |
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Camden, TN | Re: $15 a GB. The Future is 1892 said by KrK:Yes, yes, because $5 a GB is such a reasonable price point.
Better than $15 per GB overage and cheaper than at&t.
Verizon 20 GB = $150
at&t 20 GB = $200 | |
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Tulsa, OK | Re: $15 a GB. The Future is 1892 Yes, better, but only in a relative way. | |
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Camden, TN | Actually I noticed Verizon does have a 30 GB plan for $200
So
Verizon 30 GB = $200
At&t 30 GB = $300 | |
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| | Outrageous... $50 for 1 Gig SHARED just blows me away. I know they are spreading their ARPU around from the unlimited phone costs to data but that is the exact opposite way people are going. We don't need unlimited calls/texts whether at $90 or $40 / month, but we need more data not less.
This whole plan totally stinks. I took a look at "Change Plan" on my account and wow-wee, I was offered 300 Meg (shared lololol) for $40. Verizon has way over-valued their crummy data allowances. Outrageous and disgusting. | |
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Camden, TN | Re: Outrageous... said by podstolom:$50 for 1 Gig SHARED just blows me away. yes that sucks ass the 10 GB for $100 is "better" but the 20 GB for $150 isn't too bad if you actually need it.
First GB $50 other 19 GB $100( $5.26 per GB ) doesn't make sense does it? | |
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join:2001-12-14
Palm Bay, FL | Total Rip Off I'm 13 days in and pushing 3GB already. I use between 5-7GB a month between two iPhones. My wife uses about 500MB a month because she is mainly on WiFi, but I use 3G for streaming internet radio in my office, company car, and personal car. I'm a big fan of Proton Radio, and at 192K the bits add up!
Right now because we're both on my dad's plan, we pay $94 a month for both iPhones sharing 1400 minutes, unlimited text, and unlimited 3G data. If I lose this deal, I'll switch to Sprint. I don't care how fast and reliable Verizon's network is, I'm not going to dish out this kind of money to stay on it.
-Dragasoni- | |
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Camden, TN | Re: Total Rip Off said by Dragasoni:I'm 13 days in and pushing 3GB already. I use between 5-7GB a month between two iPhones. My wife uses about 500MB a month because she is mainly on WiFi, but I use 3G for streaming internet radio in my office, company car, and personal car. I'm a big fan of Proton Radio, and at 192K the bits add up! Your office doesn't have Wi-Fi? If you can set your streaming down to 128 kbps you can cut the data your radio streaming uses by 1/3.
Right now because we're both on my dad's plan, we pay $94 a month for both iPhones sharing 1400 minutes, unlimited text, and unlimited 3G data. If I lose this deal, I'll switch to Sprint. I don't care how fast and reliable Verizon's network is, I'm not going to dish out this kind of money to stay on it.
-Dragasoni-
What kind of phone does you dad use and how much data does he use? | |
| | | | | Re: Total Rip Off He can change to 4G and keep unlimited...just has to pay full price or get it used... | |
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Cortland, NY | Re: Total Rip Off I'm not sure that is correct I was told unlimited 3G is nerfed if you get a 4G device. Even unsubsidized. | |
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Palm Bay, FL | My office does have WiFi, but it's not for my convenience. It's there for clients and customers. The point is that I pay Verizon a lot of money as does my dad. The bill is over $300 a month, and they want more than that for data?!
They can forget it, I'll switch to a more customer oriented provider.
-Dragaoni- | |
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|  Woody79_00I run Linux am I still a PC?Premium
join:2004-07-08
united state | J/C
This just gets funnier by the day. I told you folks 5 years ago that data caps were coming and they are nothing more then new creative ways for these crooked corps to rip you off and extract more money from your pocket.
I have two months left on a cell phone contract(1st one i ever signed in my life and it will be my last)
I have already called and told them where they can shove this smart phone and their plan in September....
listen people YOU DO NOT NEED A CELL PHONE OR A SMART PHONE.
You may WANT a cell but you don't NEED IT...the human race got along just fine and was even more productive before cell phones were ever invented.
Food you need
Water you need
a car you need
gas you need
clothes you need
a cell phone/smart phone is just a want...anyone who says they can't live with out one is full of crap....
You want this nonsense to stop? they do what i do and leave..quit giving them your damn money...if people would leave these corps in droves (im talking in the hundreds of thousands) maybe these companies would get a clue and quit screwing over their customers.
however as long as you folks are willing to put up with it, then they will just keep bending you over the table and getting you in the backside...it is what it is.
I know most of you will never leave these companies...because of convenience....and that will be your undoing....while i can afford an extra vacation or two a year, or perhaps just banking the money i would spend on a cell phone piling up a big pile of cash to do with what i want, your throwing that money down the drain on a cell phone...yup....too funny indeed! | |
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Camden, TN | Does eveyone NEED massive amount of data? Ok we all agree $50 for 1 GB is a joke. Especially since every data tier over 2 GB is $5 per GB more. How can the first GB cost 10X more than the rest I'm not sure. So let not go there.
If you use Wi-Fi which to me would be better than even 4G in many if not most circumstances how much data do you need?
Now I totally get why those on unlimited data don't like this new plan. Hey if it's unlimited might as well use it right? But those not on unlimited how much of that 2 GB do you actually use? And how much less would you use if you used Wi-Fi? Everyone's situation is different of course. | |
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Camden, TN | Re: Does eveyone NEED massive amount of data? Why would I need to know more? I've kept up on this issue since these plans were announced on June 12th. Your link doesn't tell me anything new. Also you post doesn't even address what I said in my post. | |
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join:2007-03-10
Bon Aqua, TN
kudos:1 Reviews:
·Verizon Broadban..
| I know what i'm using and do not need a thought out scripted page to tell me otherwise... Even with my crappy signal where I live my usage is around 2.5 gigs.. If I had an lte phone I would probably hit 6 gigs.. Which is not much at all in terms of data.. But verizon wants to treat it like its just total rape on their network.. Total bs.. When I lose my unlimited (I know its going to happen, they will find a way) i'm ditching verizon.. Sure they have greater coverage, but so does a prepaid trek phone for voice.. I sure as hell don't have any use for a limited overpriced post paid phone plan... Specially for these rates... And don't worry, when the major carriers start jacking the prices on all the prepaid plains, i'll simply go without a damn phone.. its not worth it... I rather the money go towards a car payment than some gadget that's overpriced.. | |
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| | I almost bought a new phone Monday... Now I regret it. I could of kept my unlimited data on Monday, today I can't. I rarely ever use more than 1 gig so I can get by with the $30/month plan BUT then I loose my $20/month discount I go. Ugg stupid me. | |
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Camden, TN | Re: I almost bought a new phone Monday... said by themagicone:Now I regret it. I could of kept my unlimited data on Monday, today I can't. I rarely ever use more than 1 gig so I can get by with the $30/month plan BUT then I loose my $20/month discount I go. Ugg stupid me.
Why would you lose your discount? | |
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| decifal
join:2007-03-10
Bon Aqua, TN
kudos:1 Reviews:
·Verizon Broadban..
| lol Well, for sure now when you call to complain about sluggish service they can't use the "probably a couple heavy users in the area" excuse anymore... Who in the hell could afford it??!!??
This is what happens when people that's never ever been poor in their lives get to decide the pricing of services....
Hope this backfires | |
| | | We Gotcha Ya! I have an iPad /// with Verizon Broadband. My wife had an iPad I. I had an old Jetpack and figured I'll split my plan with her and if we went over $10 a gig for are overage was fair.
Even though my iPad /// can be used as a hotspot, a true hotspot is not $10 a month more, it is $20 a month more. Then there was the $35 action fee. (Silly me thinking it would be waived because they shipped the SIM out for free). Then the overage went from $10 to $15. The economy has gotten a little bit better and we were prepared to spend a bit more, but the system just seemed rigged to maximize the gouge. I knew there would be an upward creep in our data consumption and I figured Verizon would make extra money off of that. I'm paying them $10 a month more for 4 gigs than I had with 5 gigs. I was sort of prepared to let the bandwith float the first couple of months and adjust the plan to match consumption.
Conversely, I have a contract plan with Telus. I pay $5 for my first 10 megs; $10 a month if I use upto 100 megs; $20 for 500 mess; and $35 for 5 gigs. This is the first time that I thought that Canadian telecommunications was a better deal.
I spend a ton of money each month on phones. What bugs me is a nickel and dime feeling. It is the feeling you get when you stay in an expensive hotel and they get you with a "gotcha charge," (e.g. the fee for looking in the mini-bar and not buying anything). | |
| | | how is this cheaper? $40 per device? I'm paying $40 per device now with my current plan where are the savings?
Plus $70 per month for the 4gb plan? | |
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Camden, TN | Re: how is this cheaper? $40 per device? said by mikedz4:I'm paying $40 per device now with my current plan where are the savings?
Plus $70 per month for the 4gb plan?
How are you paying $40 per device? On a family plan the first line is $60. Not counting $30 min for data and $30 for family texting. | |
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