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2007-Oct-22 6:44 pm
could it be the 20/20 tiercould it be the 20/20 tier?
has there been an official announcement?
here hoping they announcement GPON for 100/100 | |
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| JeffConnoisseur of leisurely things Premium Member join:2002-12-24 GMT -5 |
Jeff
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2007-Oct-22 6:46 pm
Re: could it be the 20/20 tierIt must be pretty darn important for this kind of attention.
We'll see if it's the 20/20... | |
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| | NYR 56 Premium Member join:2000-12-05 Smithtown, NY |
NYR 56
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2007-Oct-23 1:32 am
Re: could it be the 20/20 tierI just checked if FiOS is available in my area in NY, and apparently the 20/20 package is available ($70/month, $60 for the first 6 months after first month which is free). I'm guessing this wasn't officially announced yet so that is what they are talking about. I doubt I'll be switching from Cablevision but it's cool to know it's an option. | |
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2007-Oct-22 6:51 pm
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They've Finally Seen The Light, and It Burned Their Eyes OutProbably some big hype about a price increase... | |
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| nopingno route to host Premium Member join:2007-01-09 |
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Re: could it be the 20/20 tierThey can't even get 20/5 out to customers in some areas (yes, we have "competition") and you're dreaming of 100/100? Verizon needs to step up, so much for the "most advanced fiber-optic network" | |
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| | batterupI Can Not Tell A Lie. Premium Member join:2003-02-06 Netcong, NJ |
batterup
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2007-Oct-22 8:51 pm
Re: could it be the 20/20 tiersaid by noping:Verizon needs to step up, so much for the "most advanced fiber-optic network" Cablevision says they have the "most advanced fiber-optic network". Really they do. | |
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| | | dvd536as Mr. Pink as they come Premium Member join:2001-04-27 Phoenix, AZ |
dvd536
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2007-Oct-22 10:12 pm
Re: could it be the 20/20 tiersaid by batterup:said by noping:Verizon needs to step up, so much for the "most advanced fiber-optic network" Cablevision says they have the "most advanced fiber-optic network". Really they do. * utters some dribble about those 75 page capping threads and there were several of them * | |
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| PDXPLT join:2003-12-04 Banks, OR |
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20/20? Nah.You guys still don't get it. To us geeks, FIOS is all about faster internet access.
To Verizon, FIOS includes internet access only because the market forces them to. To Verizon, FIOS has always meant one thing -- THE method to compete with the cable companies, ans grab a big piece of that proven cash cow - selling TV.
I'm guessing this is all about announcing some wizbang interactive/video/on-demand/yadda-yadda offering. | |
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| | MrMoodyFree range slave Premium Member join:2002-09-03 Smithfield, NC |
MrMoody
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2007-Oct-22 11:54 pm
Re: 20/20? Nah.Ding ding, we have a winner.
All of you bandwidth utopia dreamers need to lay off the happy pipe. | |
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| | rec9140Provoice just DO it join:2003-07-29 Mulberry, FL |
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said by PDXPLT: You guys still don't get it. To us geeks, FIOS is all about faster internet access.
To Verizon, FIOS includes internet access only because the market forces them to. To Verizon, FIOS has always meant one thing -- THE method to compete with the cable companies, ans grab a big piece of that proven cash cow - selling TV.
I'm guessing this is all about announcing some wizbang interactive/video/on-demand/yadda-yadda offering.
You are are a WINNER! And this is exactly why they are going about this the wrong way. Unfortunately, VZ needs to scrap the video crap, and 1) Focus on deployment and conversion of data and voice to fiber 2) SCRAP the video. 3) sell the copper network as you convert as a whole or as scrap. That should help to recoup some $$ and shut up idiot investors and analysts with their short sighted narrow minded BS. I've got my video service, Dish, Fios nor crapble nor dircrap can offer what I want, and thats NOT HD! I could care less about HD. No x play is ever going to be a part of what I choose. So put that pipe dream of corralling the sheep in to the pen that way. Note to VZ: DEPLOY! DEPLOY! DEPLOY! Bring on the fiber data, and get out of the way. | |
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Re: 20/20? Nah.said by rec9140:Unfortunately, VZ needs to scrap the video crap, and ... I've got my video service, Dish, Fios nor crapble nor dircrap can offer what I want, and thats NOT HD! I could care less about HD. ... First, why would they scrap their TV service. It's had great reviews and probably the best DVR to DVR capabilities amongst most if not all providers for TV service. If you have Dish and like it, great. Their TV service won't hinder getting the Internet stuff moving and it's also helping fund and justify everything to investors. To put it simply: If they "scrap" tv service, expect slower deployment. Your HD comments are silly. HD is where it's going, it's getting too cheap to not go HD. I'd expect within five years everybody is producing HD content and all transmission in HD where people with older sets just handle down-converting it. One method is better than several, and it might as well be HD. | |
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| | | batterupI Can Not Tell A Lie. Premium Member join:2003-02-06 Netcong, NJ |
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said by rec9140:3) sell the copper network as you convert as a whole or as scrap. That should help to recoup some $$ and shut up idiot investors and analysts with their short sighted narrow minded BS. So I take it you don't have the necessities to invest. | |
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PDXPLT
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2007-Oct-23 2:31 pm
OK I was wrong. I guess this is an anti-DOCSIS 3.0 play. And at $65/month, they get enough revenue from it that they don't care about cannabolizing TV revenue. Or maybe they'll see to it that QoS on the internet access connection is lousy enough so that people will stop buy the TV channels from them. | |
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| DoRight join:2007-07-20 East Petersburg, PA |
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Re: could it be the 20/20 tierYes the 20/20mb FIOS is going to be available in CT, NY and NJ for $64.99 a month if people didn't already know.. | |
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| | batterupI Can Not Tell A Lie. Premium Member join:2003-02-06 Netcong, NJ
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batterup
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2007-Oct-22 11:05 pm
Re: could it be the 20/20 tiersaid by DoRight:Yes the 20/20mb FIOS is going to be available in CT, NY and NJ for $64.99 a month if people didn't already know.. 20/20!!!!!!! The internet was made for porn, porn, porn. I want my por... errr fiber. Whaaaaaaaaaa | |
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| | Lumberjack Premium Member join:2003-01-18 Newport News, VA |
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said by DoRight:Yes the 20/20mb FIOS is going to be available in CT, NY and NJ for $64.99 a month if people didn't already know.. And in Hampton Roads, VA it will only be $742.99/mo (based on what they want for business 30/5). I so hate that the regions are priced so far apart. I mean, I could see a 20-30 difference but holy crap. Makes me kinda pissed too. It's not that they can't do it here, it's that they don't have any desire too because nothing "forces" them to do it. | |
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Re: could it be the 20/20 tierIf your in VA then go with 30/5 for $54.95.. | |
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| | | | Lumberjack Premium Member join:2003-01-18 Newport News, VA |
Re: could it be the 20/20 tierYeah, that's what I have. But the billing lady told me the only way I was able to get that was to "bundle" my phone service. I've had all kinds of problems with billing but whatever, they might actually have it correct this time. | |
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FFH5
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2007-Oct-22 6:46 pm
Might be a wireless/fios tie inThe CTIA wireless conference begins tomorrow in San Francisco. » www.ctia.org/conventions ··· ID/10169I'm guessing they will be offering some kind of product/service that ties together Verizon Wireless phones with fios internet acesss. Maybe something like T-Mobile's Hotspot@home service. | |
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| JeffConnoisseur of leisurely things Premium Member join:2002-12-24 GMT -5 1 edit |
Jeff
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2007-Oct-22 6:48 pm
Re: Might be a wireless/fios tie inI'm going to be a little more cynical and say they are announcing that they are going to start suing every VoIP provider, including but not limited to just Vonage. /sarcasm | |
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NY Tel
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2007-Oct-22 8:52 pm
Re: Might be a wireless/fios tie insaid by Jeff:I'm going to be a little more cynical and say they are announcing that they are going to start suing every VoIP provider, including but not limited to just Vonage. /sarcasm LOL, that was pretty funny if you ask me. | |
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Matt3All noise, no signal. Premium Member join:2003-07-20 Jamestown, NC |
Matt3
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2007-Oct-22 6:48 pm
20/20?Hopefully this will set the standard for other companies to follow, but I doubt it. I have fiber service through a local ILEC, but the closest competition is Time Warner with a paltry 384Kbps or 512Kbps upstream speed.
This is likely to one-up the cable companies who can't come close to matching the upstream this will offer until DOCSIS 3.0 is deployed.
Kudos to Verizon for this if it is in fact the official unveiling of a 20/20 tier. | |
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K3SGM
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2007-Oct-22 6:57 pm
Sudoku??Must be those online games they have been talking about. They're finally adding the unlimited online Sudoku package for $12.99/mo. | |
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Re: 20/20?Being that I'm in your same market, I second your kudos.
Having to live with 2 choices of 512kbps upstream speed is annoying. I can have Bellsouth/AT&T at 512 or Time Warner at 512. Whee! I ended up with both and load balanced them. Thank goodness for Standalone FastAccess from Bellsouth - no land line required.
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HarleyYacLee Premium Member join:2001-10-13 Allendale, NJ |
Billing???I love VZ's Billing .I just hate the Phone call at 8 AM. If I don't get it early ..It usually takes an hour. Lee | |
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tiyuri
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2007-Oct-22 7:01 pm
billing systemA "better billing system"? That would imply Verizon has a billing system in place right now. That is giving them far too much credit. | |
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dave
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2007-Oct-22 7:06 pm
Hooray, they've found the shovelAs far as I'm concerned, the only "groundbreaking" news I want to hear from Verizon is that they're finally laying optical fibre to my neighborhood. (It's all underground utilities here, so they don't really want to spend the money). | |
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zenafu
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2007-Oct-22 7:22 pm
They've seen the light!My guess is that they'll be announcing FiOS will be offered free to every man, woman and child in America. | |
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| Ben Premium Member join:2007-06-17 Fort Worth, TX |
Ben
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2007-Oct-22 7:34 pm
Re: They've seen the light!Nah...they'd never do that. How would they make any money? Besides, I don't see it happening unless Verizon purchases SBC (Oops I mean AT&T), Embarq, Qwest, and every single little regional telephone company.
Although if that really happened that would be great. | |
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| | batterupI Can Not Tell A Lie. Premium Member join:2003-02-06 Netcong, NJ |
batterup
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2007-Oct-22 8:55 pm
Re: They've seen the light!said by Ben:Nah...they'd never do that. How would they make any money? Besides, I don't see it happening unless Verizon purchases SBC (Oops I mean AT&T), Embarq, Qwest, and every single little regional telephone company. Although if that really happened that would be great. They could call it The Telephone Company. I have a slogan they can use; "One system it works". | |
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| dvd536as Mr. Pink as they come Premium Member join:2001-04-27 Phoenix, AZ |
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said by zenafu:My guess is that they'll be announcing FiOS will be offered free to every man, woman and child in America. I would be happy if they announced they were going to DEPLOY to everyone(including qwest areas) | |
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| | batterupI Can Not Tell A Lie. Premium Member join:2003-02-06 Netcong, NJ |
batterup
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2007-Oct-22 10:41 pm
Re: They've seen the light!said by dvd536:said by zenafu:My guess is that they'll be announcing FiOS will be offered free to every man, woman and child in America. I would be happy if they announced they were going to DEPLOY to everyone(including qwest areas) There was a company called The Phone Company that brought affordable communication to that area. | |
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100/100Lets all cross our fingers......... 100/100 Symmetrical | |
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| Ben Premium Member join:2007-06-17 Fort Worth, TX |
Ben
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2007-Oct-22 7:31 pm
Re: 100/100said by thecybernerd:Lets all cross our fingers......... 100/100 Symmetrical We would be lucky to get that in major metro areas at the beginning of the next decade. Well, if you assume the cost must be below $200/mo. Of course if you have plenty of cash you can get a full OC3 today (155Mbps). I would love to be proven wrong on this prediction, but it's seriously what I think. Hopefully by then it'll be possible to get T1 service at less than $250/mo. (for the sake of rural areas). | |
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2007-Oct-22 7:27 pm
Hopefully it means additional deployment......in my parents' town. Why do I say them and not me? Because they live in a Verizon area, while I live in an SBC area. So...no FIOS for me.
I can only hope for FTTH at faster than DSL speeds, or hope I run into lots of cash and get a fractional OC3 or full DS3. | |
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NOCMan
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2007-Oct-22 7:39 pm
IPTV Xbox 360 Fall UpdateWho knows, but the PS3 is doing this with KT in South Korea so it could be this for the 360 in the US.
I doubt it's going to be a 20/20 tier though it would be interesting if they offered it to everyone across the board.
It'd really take the thunder out of the cable companies period.
Still they need to fix thier HD capacity issues. | |
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EverAndAnon
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2007-Oct-22 7:50 pm
Haven't heard about this in awhile...FiOS Fon? | |
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jammmin join:2000-12-14 Upper Marlboro, MD |
Oh noCould it be that they finally fixed their crappy 2.0 IMG.
Will they be announcing 200 HD channels by the end of next year. Who knows | |
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NOYBSt. John 3.16 Premium Member join:2005-12-15 Forest Grove, OR 1 edit |
NOYB
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2007-Oct-22 8:12 pm
You All Are so Way off BaseNobody even in the ballpark yet with what this new "groundbreaking" "first" in US market service. I tell you it is 100 Terabit/sec eBbBS (exponential Bill by Byte Service). This would be a win-win. You get the speed (bandwidth) you clamor for, and Verizon gets your estate. | |
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AbBaZaBbA Premium Member join:2002-07-10 Wildomar, CA |
.i think 20/20 is a realistic announcement.
They KNOW cable Co's can't even come close to that much upstream. It's just not possible with their technology.
Plus, aren't their links at the CO's that feed all customers symmetrical as well?
The problem of course, would be with programs like bittorrent. To download 10gb you would have to find various torrents, and download, have hd space ect. But you could easily upload 100gb by just leaving the torrents at their default sharing. No additional work/hd space is needed to use TONS of upstream bandwith. | |
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NJxxxJon2 0 1 7 Mmm Here We go man! Premium Member join:2005-10-22 |
NJxxxJon
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2007-Oct-22 8:22 pm
Will it be $12.99 A MONTH12.99 A MONTH? AH WOULD BE GGGGREAT! | |
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Speculation...Well.. what would be groundbreaking is parity of the speed/pricing network-wide... This would mean that those crappy cable companies pumping out 3-16 megabits are gonna get IT smashed right over their heads.. A net gain for Verizon, net upgrade headache for the cable companies. Generally the cheapest pricing is in the NY metro where broadband is cheaper... but bringing it foot-print wide would be groundbreaking. Yeah, a pipe dream.. it will probably be something less spectacular such as increased / symmetrical speeds in their most competitive markets or commitment to upgrade to GPONS in 20/5 30/5 50/10 markets. 20/20, 30/30, 50/50? (suggested pricing.. $35, $45, $85) Nah... ** Or, something as simple as offering VOIP as a bundle option and finally competing apples to apples. Aside from these, I can't think of much else that would help the FIOS product from being more competitive. Other than *significant* price reductions / significant increases in speed. The public and cable co's wait with baited breath. | |
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batterupI Can Not Tell A Lie. Premium Member join:2003-02-06 Netcong, NJ |
batterup
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2007-Oct-22 8:49 pm
WhaaaaaaaaaaI want my fiber, I want my fiber. I'm going to hold my breath until I get my fiber. | |
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Re: WhaaaaaaaaaaCarefull verizon my just spank you. Spare the rod spoil the geek i always say. | |
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batterup
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2007-Oct-22 11:03 pm
Re: Whaaaaaaaaaasaid by Freezone:Carefull verizon my just spank you. Spare the rod spoil the geek i always say. Eight months I saw this on the highway. They haven't even started on the side streets yet. Whhahahahahhhh » /showp ··· 7627&1=1 | |
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2007-Oct-22 9:19 pm
SolidAny info on time or link for the webcast? | |
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IPTV?Maybe going with full out IPTV? | |
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New anouncement!! | |
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