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has there been an official announcement?
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Jeffrey
Bye George, 1937-2008
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join:2002-12-24
Long Island
clubs: | Re: could it be the 20/20 tier It must be pretty darn important for this kind of attention.
We'll see if it's the 20/20... | |
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join:2000-12-05
Smithtown, NY
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| Re: could it be the 20/20 tier I just checked if FiOS is available in my area in NY, and apparently the 20/20 package is available ($70/month, $60 for the first 6 months after first month which is free). I'm guessing this wasn't officially announced yet so that is what they are talking about. I doubt I'll be switching from Cablevision but it's cool to know it's an option. | |
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join:2006-01-17
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clubs: | They've Finally Seen The Light, and It Burned Their Eyes Out Probably some big hype about a price increase... 
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a network cable is unplugged
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join:2007-01-09
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| Re: could it be the 20/20 tier They can't even get 20/5 out to customers in some areas (yes, we have "competition") and you're dreaming of 100/100?
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as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| Re: could it be the 20/20 tier said by batterup  :said by noping :Verizon needs to step up, so much for the "most advanced fiber-optic network" Cablevision says they have the "most advanced fiber-optic network". Really they do. * utters some dribble about those 75 page capping threads and there were several of them *
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join:2003-12-04
Banks, OR
| 20/20? Nah. You guys still don't get it. To us geeks, FIOS is all about faster internet access.
To Verizon, FIOS includes internet access only because the market forces them to. To Verizon, FIOS has always meant one thing -- THE method to compete with the cable companies, ans grab a big piece of that proven cash cow - selling TV.
I'm guessing this is all about announcing some wizbang interactive/video/on-demand/yadda-yadda offering. | |
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MrMoody
Beleaguered Middle Class
join:2002-09-03
Smithfield, NC | Re: 20/20? Nah. Ding ding, we have a winner.
All of you bandwidth utopia dreamers need to lay off the happy pipe. | |
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rec9140
Provoice just DO it
join:2003-07-29
Mulberry, FL
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| said by PDXPLT :
You guys still don't get it. To us geeks, FIOS is all about faster internet access.
To Verizon, FIOS includes internet access only because the market forces them to. To Verizon, FIOS has always meant one thing -- THE method to compete with the cable companies, ans grab a big piece of that proven cash cow - selling TV.
I'm guessing this is all about announcing some wizbang interactive/video/on-demand/yadda-yadda offering.
You are are a WINNER! And this is exactly why they are going about this the wrong way.
Unfortunately, VZ needs to scrap the video crap, and
1) Focus on deployment and conversion of data and voice to fiber
2) SCRAP the video.
3) sell the copper network as you convert as a whole or as scrap. That should help to recoup some $$ and shut up idiot investors and analysts with their short sighted narrow minded BS.
I've got my video service, Dish, Fios nor crapble nor dircrap can offer what I want, and thats NOT HD! I could care less about HD.
No x play is ever going to be a part of what I choose. So put that pipe dream of corralling the sheep in to the pen that way.
Note to VZ: DEPLOY! DEPLOY! DEPLOY!
Bring on the fiber data, and get out of the way.
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Lumberjack
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join:2003-01-18
Newport News, VA
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| Re: 20/20? Nah. said by rec9140 :Unfortunately, VZ needs to scrap the video crap, and ... I've got my video service, Dish, Fios nor crapble nor dircrap can offer what I want, and thats NOT HD! I could care less about HD. ... First, why would they scrap their TV service. It's had great reviews and probably the best DVR to DVR capabilities amongst most if not all providers for TV service. If you have Dish and like it, great. Their TV service won't hinder getting the Internet stuff moving and it's also helping fund and justify everything to investors. To put it simply: If they "scrap" tv service, expect slower deployment.
Your HD comments are silly. HD is where it's going, it's getting too cheap to not go HD. I'd expect within five years everybody is producing HD content and all transmission in HD where people with older sets just handle down-converting it. One method is better than several, and it might as well be HD.
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join:2003-12-04
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| OK I was wrong. I guess this is an anti-DOCSIS 3.0 play. And at $65/month, they get enough revenue from it that they don't care about cannabolizing TV revenue. Or maybe they'll see to it that QoS on the internet access connection is lousy enough so that people will stop buy the TV channels from them. | |
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join:2007-07-20
Mechanicsburg, PA | Re: could it be the 20/20 tier Yes the 20/20mb FIOS is going to be available in CT, NY and NJ for $64.99 a month if people didn't already know.. | |
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batterup
I Can Not Tell A Lie.
Premium
join:2003-02-06
Netcong, NJ
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| Re: could it be the 20/20 tier said by DoRight :Yes the 20/20mb FIOS is going to be available in CT, NY and NJ for $64.99 a month if people didn't already know.. 20/20!!!!!!! The internet was made for porn, porn, porn. I want my por... errr fiber. Whaaaaaaaaaa | |
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join:2003-01-18
Newport News, VA
·Cox HSI
| said by DoRight :Yes the 20/20mb FIOS is going to be available in CT, NY and NJ for $64.99 a month if people didn't already know.. And in Hampton Roads, VA it will only be $742.99/mo (based on what they want for business 30/5). I so hate that the regions are priced so far apart. I mean, I could see a 20-30 difference but holy crap. Makes me kinda pissed too. It's not that they can't do it here, it's that they don't have any desire too because nothing "forces" them to do it.
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Lumberjack
Premium
join:2003-01-18
Newport News, VA
·Cox HSI
| Re: could it be the 20/20 tier Yeah, that's what I have. But the billing lady told me the only way I was able to get that was to "bundle" my phone service. I've had all kinds of problems with billing but whatever, they might actually have it correct this time.
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Bye George, 1937-2008
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join:2002-12-24
Long Island
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| Re: Might be a wireless/fios tie in I'm going to be a little more cynical and say they are announcing that they are going to start suing every VoIP provider, including but not limited to just Vonage. 
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join:2004-04-09
Smithtown, NY
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| Re: Might be a wireless/fios tie in said by Jeffrey :I'm going to be a little more cynical and say they are announcing that they are going to start suing every VoIP provider, including but not limited to just Vonage. /sarcasm LOL, that was pretty funny if you ask me. | |
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Obama '08
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
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| 20/20? Hopefully this will set the standard for other companies to follow, but I doubt it. I have fiber service through a local ILEC, but the closest competition is Time Warner with a paltry 384Kbps or 512Kbps upstream speed.
This is likely to one-up the cable companies who can't come close to matching the upstream this will offer until DOCSIS 3.0 is deployed.
Kudos to Verizon for this if it is in fact the official unveiling of a 20/20 tier.
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join:2006-01-17
West Chester, PA
clubs: | Sudoku?? Must be those online games they have been talking about.
They're finally adding the unlimited online Sudoku package for $12.99/mo.
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join:2000-08-12
Saxapahaw, NC
·RoadRunner Cable
| Re: 20/20? Being that I'm in your same market, I second your kudos.
Having to live with 2 choices of 512kbps upstream speed is annoying. I can have Bellsouth/AT&T at 512 or Time Warner at 512. Whee! I ended up with both and load balanced them. Thank goodness for Standalone FastAccess from Bellsouth - no land line required.
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Yaco
Yaco
Premium
join:2001-10-13
Allendale, NJ | Billing??? I love VZ's Billing .I just hate the Phone call at 8 AM. If I don't get it early ..It usually takes an hour.
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join:2001-06-06
Little Silver, NJ | billing system A "better billing system"? That would imply Verizon has a billing system in place right now. That is giving them far too much credit. | |
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Premium,MVM
join:2000-05-04
not in ohio | Hooray, they've found the shovel As far as I'm concerned, the only "groundbreaking" news I want to hear from Verizon is that they're finally laying optical fibre to my neighborhood. (It's all underground utilities here, so they don't really want to spend the money). | |
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join:2007-06-12
Brooklyn, NY | They've seen the light! My guess is that they'll be announcing FiOS will be offered free to every man, woman and child in America.  | |
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batterup
I Can Not Tell A Lie.
Premium
join:2003-02-06
Netcong, NJ
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| Re: They've seen the light! said by benc :Nah...they'd never do that. How would they make any money? Besides, I don't see it happening unless Verizon purchases SBC (Oops I mean AT&T), Embarq, Qwest, and every single little regional telephone company. Although if that really happened that would be great. They could call it The Telephone Company. I have a slogan they can use; "One system it works". | |
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| I would be happy if they announced they were going to DEPLOY to everyone(including qwest areas)
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batterup
I Can Not Tell A Lie.
Premium
join:2003-02-06
Netcong, NJ
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| Re: They've seen the light! said by dvd536 :I would be happy if they announced they were going to DEPLOY to everyone(including qwest areas) There was a company called The Phone Company that brought affordable communication to that area. | |
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thecybernerd
Premium
join:2007-01-05
Great Falls, VA |  100/100
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NOCMan
Verizon Fios User
Premium
join:2004-09-30
Flower Mound, TX
| IPTV Xbox 360 Fall Update Who knows, but the PS3 is doing this with KT in South Korea so it could be this for the 360 in the US.
I doubt it's going to be a 20/20 tier though it would be interesting if they offered it to everyone across the board.
It'd really take the thunder out of the cable companies period.
Still they need to fix thier HD capacity issues.
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jammmin
join:2000-12-14
Upper Marlboro, MD | Oh no Could it be that they finally fixed their crappy 2.0 IMG.
Will they be announcing 200 HD channels by the end of next year. Who knows | |
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Premium
join:2002-07-10
Long Beach, CA
| . i think 20/20 is a realistic announcement.
They KNOW cable Co's can't even come close to that much upstream. It's just not possible with their technology.
Plus, aren't their links at the CO's that feed all customers symmetrical as well?
The problem of course, would be with programs like bittorrent. To download 10gb you would have to find various torrents, and download, have hd space ect. But you could easily upload 100gb by just leaving the torrents at their default sharing. No additional work/hd space is needed to use TONS of upstream bandwith. | |
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NJxxxJon
something good. or your mom.
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join:2005-10-22
00000 | Will it be $12.99 A MONTH 12.99 A MONTH? AH WOULD BE GGGGREAT! | |
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join:2004-04-24
Floral Park, NY
| Speculation... Well.. what would be groundbreaking is parity of the speed/pricing network-wide... This would mean that those crappy cable companies pumping out 3-16 megabits are gonna get IT smashed right over their heads.. A net gain for Verizon, net upgrade headache for the cable companies.
Generally the cheapest pricing is in the NY metro where broadband is cheaper... but bringing it foot-print wide would be groundbreaking. Yeah, a pipe dream.. it will probably be something less spectacular such as increased / symmetrical speeds in their most competitive markets or commitment to upgrade to GPONS in 20/5 30/5 50/10 markets. 20/20, 30/30, 50/50? (suggested pricing.. $35, $45, $85) Nah...
** Or, something as simple as offering VOIP as a bundle option and finally competing apples to apples.
Aside from these, I can't think of much else that would help the FIOS product from being more competitive. Other than *significant* price reductions / significant increases in speed.
The public and cable co's wait with baited breath.
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join:2006-01-23
Arlington, VA | Re: Speculation... It's almost certainly 15/15 in some markets and 20/20 in others for ~$65/mo. | |
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join:2006-07-28
Grass Lake, MI | I'm going to lean toward a 20/20, 30/30, and 50/30 tier announcement. | |
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Sortof Agoblin
Premium
join:2001-11-25
Orchard Park, NY
clubs: | "The public and cable co's wait with baited breath."
DSL Reports waits with bated breath.
Most dont care.
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| Re: Speculation... said by hobgoblin :Most dont care. Most care but cant get it so the point is moot.
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Midak
Doctors suck
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join:2002-02-26
Yonkers, NY | Re: Speculation... No, most people do not care about upload. As big as this community is, BBR people are the minority of broadband users. | |
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batterup
I Can Not Tell A Lie.
Premium
join:2003-02-06
Netcong, NJ
clubs: | Whaaaaaaaaaa I want my fiber, I want my fiber. I'm going to hold my breath until I get my fiber. | |
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join:2000-09-29
Southfield, MI | Re: Whaaaaaaaaaa Carefull verizon my just spank you. Spare the rod spoil the geek i always say. | |
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batterup
I Can Not Tell A Lie.
Premium
join:2003-02-06
Netcong, NJ
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| Re: Whaaaaaaaaaa said by Freezone :Carefull verizon my just spank you. Spare the rod spoil the geek i always say. Eight months I saw this on the highway. They haven't even started on the side streets yet. Whhahahahahhhh
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SqueeksDad
I Miss Her
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join:2002-09-14
Silver Spring, MD
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NOCMan
Verizon Fios User
Premium
join:2004-09-30
Flower Mound, TX | Re: IPTV? That better not be the case. I'll dump them because I'm not ditching my Tivo HD for the piece of stinking crap they call a DVR. | |
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St. John 3.16
join:2005-12-15
Forest Grove, OR
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| That's my guess. That way bypass all that franchise approval nonsense and get to all FiOS customers immediately and start raking in the dough to get some ROI. | |
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Doctors suck
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join:2002-02-26
Yonkers, NY | I would say that is a very good possibility. | |
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Doctors suck
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join:2002-02-26
Yonkers, NY | Re: New anouncement!! speaking of pron, why can't I order playboy on a subscription basis? Are all those shit pron channels PPV only??? | |
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I Can Not Tell A Lie.
Premium
join:2003-02-06
Netcong, NJ
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| Re: New anouncement!! said by Midak :speaking of pron, why can't I order playboy on a subscription basis? Are all those shit pron channels PPV only??? Come on Binky. Agrhhhhh, do I have to spell it out and go back on double secret probation. | |
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Doctors suck
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Verizon Hints At FiOS Announcement Tomorrow
Might be a wireless/fios tie in
