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Despite recent lawsuit over 3G ads
02:13PM Monday Nov 09 2009 by Karl Bode
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With last Friday's Motorola Droid launch and a new series of ads that take aim at AT&T's incomplete and sometimes sub-par wireless broadband coverage, Verizon's upped the ante in their fight against AT&T. Why? Verizon clearly wants to do a better job at sopping up wireless subscribers during the traditionally very busy fourth quarter.

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AT&T's not particularly happy, informing us last week they'd be suing to stop several Verizon ads highlighting limited 3G coverage. AT&T has argued that Verizon's ads intentionally mislead customers that there's no service outside of AT&T's 3G coverage zones -- despite the fact the maps very clearly state they're for 3G coverage only.

Verizon's continuing the assault unabated; Gizmodo directs our attention to a series of new advertisements (1, 2, 3) that keep punching AT&T where it hurts. You'll notice from the screengrab to the right that Verizon has at least modified their fine print to indicate AT&T customers can getting slower EDGE Service outside of the 3G footprint.

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The truth still hurts

doesnt it.

Sorry had to say it AGAIN.

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doesnt it.

Sorry had to say it AGAIN.
Yup.

The map is accurate.
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Re: The truth still hurts

I agree that Verizon has much more coverage than AT&T, but the Verizon map is far from accurate. I travel between NW GA, and NE TN in rural areas, and many that are covered in solid red I barely get 1 bar of 1x service. And there are some spots that I don't get any 1x service at all. And it's all in bold red color on their map.

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Re: The truth still hurts

ATT has more voice coverage than Verizon.

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Re: The truth still hurts

This is not about Voice its about 3G data...Your point is irrelevant
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Re: The truth still hurts

Verizons point is irrelevant since they lie and include areas with no service at all as having full 3g coverage.

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It matters because Verizon is comparing their Voice coverage map with ATT 3G map.

While Verizons 3G coverage is better, they should not be comparing maps for different services.
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Re: The truth still hurts

I'm certain the comparison is using only 3G coverage maps for both.

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That is Verizon's 3G map. Not the voice map.

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Re: The truth still hurts

Check it out: »www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/Cove···WREQUEST
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Re: The truth still hurts

And if you chenage between the mobile web and voice you see it's different... Not majorly but it is different

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It is very different.

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Re: The truth still hurts

I suspect that they created a new map (all in red) just for the commercials as well. Either way, it doesn't matter personally to me, but I hope this will light a fire under AT&T to improve their 3G coverage.
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Those are not identical maps. The region between Reno and Las Vegas along the Nevada-California border are not the same, as an obvious difference. Also, they claim to be using a resolution of 1 square mile, so I'm guessing that as long as they can reach any part of that square mile, it gets filled in.

Regardless, the results are striking, and on equal footing, Verizon clearly has a much broader coverage area than AT&T with their 3G service. In metro areas, Verizon outpaced AT&T in recent performance tests. The lawsuit is near frivolous.
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said by r81984 See Profile :

ATT has more voice coverage than Verizon.
Sorry dude you're STILL wrong about this. I don't know why the truth is so hard for you to accept. Pity.

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Try driving from Nevada to Florida with a Verizon and ATT phone and you will learn quickly that ATT has better coverage than Verizon.
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Re: The truth still hurts

Unfortunately, I am unable to learn something that is false.

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Until you make that drive then stop calling me a liar.
I have driven across the entire country, I know ATT has better coverage than Verizon.
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Re: The truth still hurts

I'm not calling you a liar, just misinformed.

BTW, exactly when did you drive across every square inch of the entire US? And you were on two phones the ENTIRE time? Wow, you're lucky that you don't have brain cancer by now!
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Funny you mention it. I did a cross country ride with a friend. He had AT&T, i had verizon, he consistently had issues with calling people. Me? I had pandora on the entire time.

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said by r81984 See Profile :

Try driving from Nevada to Florida with a Verizon and ATT phone and you will learn quickly that ATT has better coverage than Verizon.
LOLz.
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Funny cuz its true.

I find it hilarious that people talk about coverage when they never drove cross country with a verizon and att phone.
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Funny cuz its true.

I find it hilarious that people talk about coverage when they never drove cross country with a verizon and att phone.
Why would I care about coverage in BFE?

I wouldn't. I only care about the area that I'm in.
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Re: The truth still hurts

Coverage in your area means nothing about who has better nationwide coverage.
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Coverage in your area means nothing about who has better nationwide coverage.
Nationwide coverage means nothing to me if I'm never going to use it.
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said by r81984 See Profile :

Funny cuz its true.

I find it hilarious that people talk about coverage when they never drove cross country with a verizon and att phone.
And I find it hilarious when people cling to an inaccurate opinion. Get off your high horse, dude. You're far from the only person who has ever made a cross country trip.

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First hand knowledge is not inaccurate.
This is like me saying the sky is blue and you saying its red. Hilarious.
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First hand knowledge is not inaccurate.
This is like me saying the sky is blue and you saying its red. Hilarious.
Except that you are the one claiming that the sky is red, because you saw it first hand, while everyone else is supposedly wrong when they say it's blue.

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Nope, the sky is blue I have seen it.

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Well, I've been to Washington, Oregon, California, Nevada, Minnessota, Michigan, Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Tennessee, West Virginia, Virginia, New York, Georgia, Florida, North Carolina, South Carolina, Texas, Kentucky, Louisiana and Oklahoma with my cell phones. I've logged over 160,000 air miles and just as many vehicle miles. My phones *always* worked wherever I went, where others' phones (AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile, NexTel) sometimes did not, and that's the only test I need.

Verizon Wireless. It works for me. If it works for you, great. If not, great. Use what works for you, but don't assume it means it works for everyone, and even more important, don't automatically slam anyone not using what you use.

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Well, I've been to Washington, Oregon, California, Nevada, Minnessota, Michigan, Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Tennessee, West Virginia, Virginia, New York, Georgia, Florida, North Carolina, South Carolina, Texas, Kentucky, Louisiana and Oklahoma with my cell phones. I've logged over 160,000 air miles and just as many vehicle miles. My phones *always* worked wherever I went, where others' phones (AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile, NexTel) sometimes did not, and that's the only test I need.

Verizon Wireless. It works for me. If it works for you, great. If not, great. Use what works for you, but don't assume it means it works for everyone, and even more important, don't automatically slam anyone not using what you use.

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Edit - I forgot Washington, D.C.

If you had a verizon phone it would have worked less.
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said by ahulett See Profile :

Well, I've been to Washington, Oregon, California, Nevada, Minnessota, Michigan, Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Tennessee, West Virginia, Virginia, New York, Georgia, Florida, North Carolina, South Carolina, Texas, Kentucky, Louisiana and Oklahoma with my cell phones. I've logged over 160,000 air miles and just as many vehicle miles. My phones *always* worked wherever I went, where others' phones (AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile, NexTel) sometimes did not, and that's the only test I need.

Verizon Wireless. It works for me. If it works for you, great. If not, great. Use what works for you, but don't assume it means it works for everyone, and even more important, don't automatically slam anyone not using what you use.

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Edit - I forgot Washington, D.C.

If you had a verizon phone it would have worked less.
Can you read?
He did have a Verizon phone.
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Verizon Wireless. It works for me. If it works for you, great. If not, great. Use what works for you, but don't assume it means it works for everyone, and even more important, don't automatically slam anyone not using what you use.
Here is a road warrior with some real travel experience, not someone 'who drove across the US once' or 'went to visit Grandma in another state'. When you travel for a living you use what works for you. One size does not fit all.
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AT&T isn't saying either map is inaccurate all they are saying is it makes consumers believe that you can not get service outside 3G areas.

So what you are saying is, even though AT&T admits there is much less coverage than Verizon, you believe there is more and that they have better 3G coverage?

I dislike both companies, but how do you deny Verizon has better 3G coverage when the companies involved aren't disputing it?

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I dislike both companies, but how do you deny Verizon has better 3G coverage when the companies involved aren't disputing it?
Can you read?
No one denied that.
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So you are from St. John's, Newfoundland? How often to you make these cross country trips in the US? I better go out and renew my AT&T contract based upon your driving experience.

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So you are from St. John's, Newfoundland? How often to you make these cross country trips in the US? I better go out and renew my AT&T contract based upon your driving experience.
Nope, not from Canada.
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In all seriousness, AT&T has dominated my area with adding 5+ cell sites in the past few years. Granted, Verizon has 3G here where AT&T doesn't. There's an entire stretch of highway that goes on for 10+ miles where Verizon has absolutely no service whatsoever and AT&T has full bars.
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Depends on where you are referring to. Here in WNC, Verizon's coverage is king, and if you get more than a mile away from a MAJOR highway, AT&T has no coverage at all. Other areas in the US may not be as bad but that's how it is here.

I have Cingular for about a month a few years back and could not use my phone most places my work took me.
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Its true.
Not only does Verizon have more 3G coverage, but in my area, it isn't as overloaded. We just walked into a Verizon store to look at the Droid (flipping sweet phone btw) and the Droid Eris. I pulled out my iPhone with full 3G bars and compared it to the speed of Verizon. Verizon won hands down.
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How to handle the ads

If AT&T can't handle the truth, then put your money where your mouth is and build out the 3G network. AT&T is too busy sucking off the iPhone teet they forget about capacity.

EDIT: I just found this. Looks like somebody may be getting a little desperate (maybe).
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Re: How to handle the ads

Of course, iPhone is coming to Verizon 3rd quarter 2010, and they want to lock as many people into that juicy 2 year data plan while they can.

"A new report citing sources in the Taiwan handset supply chain says Apple has contracted to produce a UMTS/CDMA hybrid iPhone due in the third quarter of next year that will enable the company to sell a single global handset to all carriers, and specifically to Verizon Wireless in the US."

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Waste of Ad dollars that could do way more damage elsewhere

Instead of maps that only apply to those living in the sticks (since all the major carriers have coverage in major metros) and stealth fighters dropping pokemon balls, VZ should actually be showing us what Droid does.

VZ claims of largest 3G coverage, AT&T's claim of fastest 3G network; people simply don't care, it doesn't compute. Consumers focus on the device first and the consequences of the network second. It doesn't matter in the least that the VZ ad is 100% accurate, it just isn't going to have the same effect as selling people on the devices themselves.

If you want to sell a device you have to show people the device, not the network. If they want to sell units in the 4th quarter, bombard TV with ads and product placement showing Moto & HTC Droid devices in action. Not a day goes by that you don't see a Crackberry or iPhone commercial as well as product placement. That is what it takes to push handsets.

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exactly the add says 5x more 3g coverage and its true

look at the map att, I know it hurts but get busy and build out some 3g or you open yourself up for these kind of advertisements. the truth hurts. and many companies use negative advertising if you want to call this that look att all the successful pc and mac commercials those are all slams against Microsoft and it seems to work for apple

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Re: exactly the add says 5x more 3g coverage and its true

And nobody is suing anybody (or crying that it hurts).
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That Misfit Toys Ad

is sheer genius!

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They are improving

AT&T is improving their network, it just takes time to build capacity. I've noticed my throughput increasing lately and I have the speedtests to prove it.

Call quality has been fine forever now.

And if you think Verizon would be able to handle the influx of HEAVY data users you're mistaken. The iPhone has seen an influx of data the likes of which no US carrier has seen before.

I hope Droid works out well and KILLS Verizon Wireless. It's the NOTwork. I know their network has buckled before and will buckle again.....

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Coverage Maps

From Verizon's website:

"These Coverage Locator maps are not a guarantee of coverage and may contain areas with no service. These maps reflect a depiction of predicted and approximate wireless coverage of the Verizon Wireless Network and the network of other carriers. The coverage areas shown do not guarantee service availability, and may include locations with limited or no coverage. Even within a coverage area, there are many factors, including a customer's equipment, terrain, and proximity to buildings, foliage, and weather that may impact service. An all-digital device will not operate or be able to make 911 calls when digital service is not available. Some of the coverage area includes networks run by other carriers; some of the coverage depicted is based on their information and public sources and we cannot ensure its accuracy."

Using that logic, Verizon could probably color the entire U.S. red if they wanted to. Near my area (the San Fernando Valley and parts north), I put in an address and almost every square inch of the Valley and hills north of it, are red. I know for a fact their service doesn't work all around my area. While I'm no fan of either company, I feel their adds are very simplistic and misleading.
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ATT already offers nationwide broadband.

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That is thru WILDBLUE (satellite). AT&T sells sorry Wildblue to make up for their areas where they dont offer 3G.

I've had Wildblue. Its sorry. so AT&T DOES NOT offer nationwide broadband by themselves!

Only if you sign a 2 year contract with wildblue. another misleading advertisement!

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said by burgerwars See Profile :

From Verizon's website:

"These Coverage Locator maps are not a guarantee of coverage and may contain areas with no service. These maps reflect a depiction of predicted and approximate wireless coverage of the Verizon Wireless Network and the network of other carriers. The coverage areas shown do not guarantee service availability, and may include locations with limited or no coverage. Even within a coverage area, there are many factors, including a customer's equipment, terrain, and proximity to buildings, foliage, and weather that may impact service. An all-digital device will not operate or be able to make 911 calls when digital service is not available. Some of the coverage area includes networks run by other carriers; some of the coverage depicted is based on their information and public sources and we cannot ensure its accuracy."

To summarize -

These maps are a big steaming pile of horse shit!
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Major Metro areas

Really, if your near a major metro area and you hardly travel outside the area, coverage is virtually the same among them.

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Really, if your near a major metro area and you hardly travel outside the area, coverage is virtually the same among them.
I live in a semi rural area and can't get coverage on one end of my 6 acre property on ATT. Verizon gets coverage everywhere.

So I'd say for me it matters.
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Re: Major Metro areas

I was a longtime AT&T user since they were Cingular. I live in the Chicago Metro area and the AT&T service is terrible. The Achilles Heal of the iPhone is the AT&T network or lack thereof. There are areas of the city where a steady AT&T signal is non-existent, even for a voice only connection. A smartphone is of no use if you can't use the phone. I guess all those apps come in handy so as to kill the time while you travel to a better part of the city looking for a signal.

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Agreed that it is true and nobody

here wants flexibility with my range than me since I travel

But with that said, I still tend to side more with those who state that those in big cities should be more focused on the areas they are in rather than whether they can get service in a vacation spot or one-week trip

If Verizon has the better service in your area then it is a win-win but for me, AT&T is better and it STILL allows me range in remote areas even though the map says it doesn't.

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New Verizon Ads Funny as H***

I got a real laugh of the new VERIZON ads making fun of AT&T...

Just in time for Christmas. I hope Verizon wears those ads out! ! !

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Re: New Verizon Ads Funny as H***

yah they'll run wear the ads out until VZ finds their ass in court over their network not being able to keep up with the demand of the Droid or the people pounding the network.

Like i said before though, Sprint needs to start showing off their 4G network compared to others.
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Northeast AT&T 3G coverage is great!

Being able to talk on the phone at the same time that I'm downloading email/checking sports scores/updating facebook/etc is a major selling point for me!
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that just means that you need a hobby hahahah.
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Verizon is greedy and desperate for more customers

Verizon wants more customers how do you think they are going to get them - from other carriers. if they are so desperate look at all the cdma wireless carriers they bought out only SPRINT is left that uses cdma same like verizon. There is speculation that verizon wants to buy SPRINT it would gain 30 to 40 million more customers. Verizon can buy SPRINT and it works because they use the same cdma technology. But here is the truth verizon may have more 3g data coverage than att but lets see verizons voice coverage map and compare that to ATT's voice coverage map. ATT has more and better voice coverage than Verizon. lets see if Verizon can make an ad about voice coverage maps. I dare them. I hope ATT makes an ad that compares their voice coverage map to Verizons voice coverage map. remember voice coverage is more important to me than data. because if you have a phone and cant make a call its useless. data is secondary when it comes to voice. ATT has better voice voice coverage than Verizon in the ENTIRE USA. just look at all the reviews of verizon customers and att customers. i dont recommend one over the other. you pick who you want i am simply stating the facts. people who want better data coverage switch to VERIZON. Those who care more about better voice coverage switch to ATT. just compare and look at both voice coverage maps. dont look at 3g coverage map because that is just data not voice coverage.
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Re: Verizon is greedy and desperate for more customers

Let's face it, they all want each others customers. Sprint has been losing customers at an alarming rate, close to 1.3M in 4th QTR 2008. Many of these customers went to AT&T and Verizon.
»news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-10167421-94.html

I can assure you that it the UMTS/CDMA hybrid version of the iPhone becomes available, AT&T will lose market share to Verizon, as there are many unhappy iPhone users on AT&T.
»www.appleinsider.com/articles/09···010.html

Working in sales in a seven state midwest territory, I can't necessarily agree with you about voice coverage. For example, Driving between Fargo, ND and Jamestown, ND, Verizon has better voice coverage. At the end of the day, there is not one clear winner, each person's needs are different. As I posted earlier, I was a happy GSM user on the AT&T network, only to see it degrade in my area (Chicago) to where having simple voice service was problematic. In sales, your phone HAS to work.
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Cleveland, OH

Re: Verizon is greedy and desperate for more customers

I had a friend in ND, and the only carrier that WAS there was and IS VZW. Also check the ATT Map and TMO Map. VZW is the only one that shows coverage, why? TMO and ATT doesn't want the few people in ND.

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said by lexuskool See Profile :

ATT has better voice voice coverage than Verizon in the ENTIRE USA. just look at all the reviews of verizon customers and att customers. i dont recommend one over the other. you pick who you want i am simply stating the facts. people who want better data coverage switch to VERIZON. Those who care more about better voice coverage switch to ATT. just compare and look at both voice coverage maps. dont look at 3g coverage map because that is just data not voice coverage.
Even AT&T's own coverage map is substantially inferior to verizon's native coverage!

Furthermore, CDMA (esp. at 800MHz) has a substantial advantage in footprint per deployed cell, and building penetration. Pretty much every comprehensive independent review ever conducted places verizon in the lead for voice service in the US.

(check them out yourself!)
»www.wireless.att.com/coveragevie···pe=voice

»www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/Cove···ntroller
bebrewer

join:2002-08-06
San Antonio, TX

Re: Verizon is greedy and desperate for more customers

CDMA is not even 3G, so technically speaking Verizon doesn't have ANY 3G in the entire country. HSDPA allows for concurrent voice and high speed data transmission, something that AT&T has had for years and Verizon doesn't have even today.

Verizon's ad's are very disingenuous since they don't even have a real 3G network today.
derk

join:2000-08-31
Cleveland, OH

The MAJOR difference is.

So I tried out a friends' Verizon droid phone. I was impressed.

While using the iphone on ATT 3G network, I can surf the internet as well using the ATT 3G network. You can't do that with Verizon wireless 3G network. You can be on a call but can't surf using their network at the same time and vice versa.
flyingjoey

join:2005-11-07
Jersey City, NJ

Re: The MAJOR difference is.

if you're talking on the phone, and emailing and checking for some other shit, that may be a clear indicator that you need a hobby.
derk

join:2000-08-31
Cleveland, OH

Re: The MAJOR difference is.

Obviously, you have never been on the iphone before and needed to look something up on the internet. That's all I was pointing out.

Take a chill pill.

jsz0

join:2008-01-23
Jewett City, CT
·Comcast

Re: The MAJOR difference is.

I agree. It's an important feature. I often ask someone to e-mail me while we're on a call instead of trying to have them read something back to me. With Push e-mail it's quick enough to be practical. I also use Google Maps while on calls if I need to give someone directions or lookup an address to a meeting place. Also if you happen to have a jailbroken iPhone you can tether while being on the phone.
LightS

join:2005-12-17
Granbury, TX
·EarthLink

No offense, but there are PLENTY of times that i've been on the phone and I've been told, "hey. check this video out!" and I just browse to it on my phone.

Stop attacking everybody and assuming we "need a hobby" when, as far as I've seen, you've already told two people this.
River Rat

join:2003-06-10
Biloxi, MS

Verizon

"Verizon clearly wants to do a better job at sopping up wireless subscribers during the traditionally very busy fourth quarter."

The best way to do this is to offer reasonable voice/data plans and quit locking their hardware.
skurfa

join:2006-03-10
Yorktown, VA

Hilarious

I think the ads are great. I don't use either of these guys, but I still love the VZ ads. I worked for Papa Johns back int he days of the lawsuits and countersuits with Pizza Hut ove the "Better Ingredients" slogan. This is starting to remind me of that. I just wish Dan Hesse had thought of this, Sprints 3g coverage is only slightly smaller than VZ's, if they want to get back in the game they need to be more aggressive than VZ. Put Android 2.0 on the Hero or the Moment (which I have and LOVE) and I think either one would be a better phone than the Droid.
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a333
A hot cup of integrals please

join:2007-06-12
Rego Park, NY
·Cingular Wireless
·Verizon Online DSL

AT&T's 3G in NYC

I dunno about other cities, but performance-wise, 3G in NYC has been OK for me. In Lower Manhattan (near Battery Park), I often hit 1.6-1.9 Mbit downloads when I tether. Simultaneous voice and data tends to be a very nice feature as well. However, I have noticed that 3G is VERY unstable on the 7 train when entering Queens. One moment, I get horrid latency and constant buffering when streaming videos using the Youtube app on my phone, another moment, I'm flying. Probably something related to lack of capacity at those towers/no 850 Mhz overlay yet.

-a333
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vincebusam

join:2008-11-14
Los Angeles, CA
·Verizon FIOS
·Speakeasy

Population coverage?

What does that blue map cover, 95% of the population? Last time I visited a red-only area (very rare), the AT&T 2G reception was great, and faster than the faint VZ 3G signal. VZ should focus on how you can install any app at all without their approval on their Android phones (or it at least appeared so with the demo unit at their store).
delmarvawifi

join:2008-07-15

Re: Population coverage?

Having used both services I have to say Verizon has a far superior network than AT&T

TheRul
You couldn't think of something?
Premium
join:2007-09-18
Victorville, CA

Re: Population coverage?

I agree with that, but the Customer Service sucks. Left 8 years ago(has it been that long?) and have not looked back.
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SEREGA784

join:2001-12-26
Penfield, NY

verizon sucks

Verizon still sucks
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