Verizon LTE Hits 34 New Markets Now Covers 75% of Country, Ahead of Schedule Wednesday Aug 15 2012 16:28 EDT Tipped by IPPlanMan Verizon today announced that their LTE network is now being launched in an additional 34 new markets, and is being expanded in 38 other existing markets (we've got the full list of markets below). According to Verizon, with these launches their LTE network now covers 371 markets, and blankets around 75% of the United States. Verizon continues to be significantly ahead of AT&T in LTE coverage, AT&T having just announced they now reach 51 markets. "We are ahead of schedule with our 4G LTE market roll out and will provide 4G LTE network coverage to more than 400 markets in the near future," Verizon CTO Nicola Palmer said in a prepared statement. New markets: Hot Springs, Ark.; Redding, Calif.; Valdosta and Waycross, Ga.; Centralia and Danville, Ill.; Parsons, Salina and Topeka, Kan.; Alexandria and Monroe, La.; Pittsfield, Mass.; Battle Creek and Muskegon, Mich.; Mankato and Worthington, Minn.; Joplin and Sedalia, Mo.; Bismarck, Grand Forks and Minot, N.D.; Chillicothe, Ohio; Reading, Pa.; Aberdeen, S.D.; Laredo, Odessa and Texarkana, Texas; Brattleboro and White River Junction, Vt.; Charlottesville, Va.; Longview, Wash.; and Eau Claire, La Crosse and Manitowoc, Wis. Expanding Markets: Los Angeles and Santa Barbara/Santa Maria, Calif.; Orlando, Fla.; Macon/Warner Robins, Ga.; Bloomington, Champaign/Urbana, Decatur/Effingham and Springfield, Ill.; Elkhart, Ind.; Des Moines, Iowa City and Sioux City, Iowa; Dodge City, Garden City and Great Bend, Kan.; Lexington and Louisville, Ky.; New Orleans, La.; Boston, Mass.; Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minn.; Missoula, Mont.; Las Vegas, Nev.; Manchester/Nashua, N.H.; Las Cruces, N.M.; New York, N.Y.; Cincinnati, Ohio; Greenville/Spartanburg, S.C.; Sioux Falls, S.D.; Chattanooga, Tenn.; and Salt Lake City/Ogden, Utah; Roanoke, Va.; Charleston, W.Va.; and Green Bay, Wis. Additional areas include: Little Rock, Ark., expanding into Batesville, Ark.; Tallahassee, Fla., expanding into Thomasville, Ga.; Burley, Idaho, expanding into Twin Falls, Idaho; Chicago, Ill., expanding into DeKalb, Ill.; and Cedar City, Utah, expanding into St. George, Utah. |
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Is AT&T even trying anymore?Hey AT&T! Are you actually doing anything over there?
This is just pathetic. Verizon launches nearly as many LTE Markets as AT&T has in single day.
Verizon now has 7x the 4GLTE coverage of AT&T.... and not a peep to be heard from AT&T's press shills.... | |
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atuarre
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2012-Aug-15 4:51 pm
Re: Is AT&T even trying anymore?As has been stated before, AT&T has the cash to accelerate expansion, but AT&T does not like to spend money on stuff like that. | |
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Re: Is AT&T even trying anymore?Sprint may have LTE to all of its sites before ATT matches. If Sprint can deliver as planned, their entire footprint should have LTE by end of next year. Was disappointed in Sprint's KC LTE coverage at first but they keep adding more LTE sites across the metro. Good performance and unlimited... » dl.dropbox.com/u/3812896 ··· ests.png | |
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Dubuque, IA which has IBM GDF site still doesn't have LTE from VZ. In the meantime, US Cellular already has there LTE, even at&t already has faux-4g there. Before they got there HSPA+ up and running, I was already getting sometimes 6mb/s download on regular 3G. | |
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said by IPPlanMan:Hey AT&T! Are you actually doing anything over there?
This is just pathetic. Verizon launches nearly as many LTE Markets as AT&T has in single day.
Verizon now has 7x the 4GLTE coverage of AT&T.... and not a peep to be heard from AT&T's press shills.... AT&T doesn't need LTE as badly as Verizon does. My faux-G on AT&T regularly hits 5-6mbps on my iPhone. It's fine for most purposes. On my Verizon iPad, however, I'm lucky to break 160kbps, even when I have a strong 3G signal. Verizon LTE can't get here fast enough. | |
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2012-Aug-15 6:05 pm
Re: Is AT&T even trying anymore?Exactly, AT&T LTE here is DOG slow. AT&T 3G is just as fast. Most of time I don't bother with AT&T's LTE and use my Clear WiMAX puck. | |
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Re: Is AT&T even trying anymore?yeah, 5-6mb on att 3g is "slow", but "fast" on clear wimax | |
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2012-Aug-15 6:13 pm
Re: Is AT&T even trying anymore?I routinely see 8-10 Mb on Clear's WiMAX...at least here. But looking at the Clear forums, lots of people complain about flakey speeds. And it's unlimited use, no caps or throttling for $50/mo...at least until they go bankrupt.
I use it to Slingbox at the gym and it works great. No worries about any caps and it's snappy enough to stream near HD quality. | |
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your ATT LTE is slow there? My LTE iPad 3 gets 15-20 mb down no matter when I do a speed test during the day and it usually gets 10-15 mb up as well. | |
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2012-Aug-16 7:14 am
Re: Is AT&T even trying anymore?I'm in a 5x5 rollout. | |
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This argument is old and tired. At&t only has 'fast' 3g in urban and surburban areas. Go out of the city and all you get is edge crap.
At&t needs lte upgrades just as much as verizon.. | |
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Re: Is AT&T even trying anymore?Dubuque seems to you urban/suburban area? Its a small town in the middle of nowhere in Iowa, even verizon ignores it. Att at least has fast 3g there since March 2011. | |
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Re: Is AT&T even trying anymore?said by chgo_man99:Dubuque seems to you urban/suburban area? Its a small town in the middle of nowhere in Iowa, even verizon ignores it. Att at least has fast 3g there since March 2011. And the IBM gdf site? Which they probably paid AT&T to do. Try looking on atts official coverage map for all the areas not covered by 3G... | |
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Re: Is AT&T even trying anymore?T-Mobile has worse 3G coverage, only definitely around large metropolitan areas as you said.
I doubt ibm paid att to upgrade cellular towers, even though they are partners. Looking at att IP global network map, they have service node there, so that may be a factor there. | |
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AT&T couldn't do that even if you provided them a manual on how to do it for free...
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2012-Aug-15 5:07 pm
Another month's wait for mesigh. . Maybe in September. At least I didn't have to wait until 2012 to get 3G from Verizon like it took at&t. | |
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treich
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2012-Aug-15 5:54 pm
Re: How AT&T Works vs. VerizonNot true I contacted a Verizon employee she told me they will have "most" markets end of 2013 and all markets by 2014. | |
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2012-Aug-15 6:52 pm
Re: How AT&T Works vs. Verizonsaid by treich:Not true I contacted a Verizon employee she told me they will have "most" markets end of 2013 and all markets by 2014. Well considering we still have 4 1/2 months left in 2012 and they have 75% of the population covered already. | |
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2012-Aug-15 6:54 pm
Re: How AT&T Works vs. VerizonStill I am not even covered by 4G and from what she told me I wont get it until 2014 so and I am rural part of ohio. | |
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2012-Aug-15 7:03 pm
Re: How AT&T Works vs. Verizonsaid by treich:Still I am not even covered by 4G and from what she told me I wont get it until 2014 so and I am rural part of ohio. You'll get it sooner than that. Verizon has been ahead of schedule. I'm not sure what part of Ohio you're from so I can tell if you have 4G near you or not. | |
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said by 88615298:said by treich:Not true I contacted a Verizon employee she told me they will have "most" markets end of 2013 and all markets by 2014. Well considering we still have 4 1/2 months left in 2012 and they have 75% of the population covered already. Percentage of the population, and how many markets are covered are NOT the same thing... Matt | |
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2012-Aug-16 3:25 am
Re: How AT&T Works vs. Verizonsaid by mmay149q:said by 88615298:said by treich:Not true I contacted a Verizon employee she told me they will have "most" markets end of 2013 and all markets by 2014. Well considering we still have 4 1/2 months left in 2012 and they have 75% of the population covered already. Percentage of the population, and how many markets are covered are NOT the same thing... Matt Well including today they'll have around 370 markets covered. How many does at&t and Sprint have? Also % of population matters. Would you rather have 50 big markets and 60% of the US or 200 smaller markets and 20% of the US? | |
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2012-Aug-16 1:06 pm
Re: How AT&T Works vs. Verizonsaid by 88615298:Well including today they'll have around 370 markets covered. How many does at&t and Sprint have?
Also % of population matters. Would you rather have 50 big markets and 60% of the US or 200 smaller markets and 20% of the US? Well I'm not arguing how many markets they have covered vs the other competitors, however I'd rather have the 200 smaller markets covered, and the reason why is because I hate traveling and as soon as I leave Dallas I'm stuck on 3G, granted Verizon's 3G is fine for my uses (Facebook, some MP3 downloading, updating app's, and YouTube) However it would be nice to be able to go to the lake house in Tawakoni and be able to actually jump on 4G and stream Netflix, or play Star Trek/Tera online. Matt | |
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What does the closure of AT&T's 2G network have to do with modernization? When does Verizon plan to close their CDMA network? | |
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Re: How AT&T Works vs. VerizonVerizon's 3G is more capable than AT&T's 2G, but what's more relevant is that since Verizon's LTE deployment will cover its entire 3G footprint by the end of 2013, Verizon's 3G network is simply a fallback. In fact, Verizon isn't planning to sell any 3G-only phones anymore.
AT&T isn't planning to address this legacy network until 2017. We'll see how far along they are in deploying LTE. If anything, it'll be the token coverage that they are doing now with HSPA+ as the workhorse. | |
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2012-Aug-15 7:39 pm
Re: How AT&T Works vs. Verizonsaid by IPPlanMan:Verizon's 3G is more capable than AT&T's 2G, but what's more relevant is that since Verizon's LTE deployment will cover its entire 3G footprint by the end of 2013, Verizon's 3G network is simply a fallback. In fact, Verizon isn't planning to sell any 3G-only phones anymore. Then I hope they hurry the eff up and fix their LTE network or handsets. As I've traveled around the country I've noticed LTE drops like crazy. My counter-part and I often have to kick our phones into 3G only to maintain a data connection. (I have a Motorola, he has an HTC) The problem seems to be that since the phones prefer 4G and 700MHz has longer reach, that introduces problems when you're in fringe signal areas. It rapidly cycles between 4G and 3G, which effectively kills any sort of data connectivity. It's maddening. | |
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said by djrobx:What does the closure of AT&T's 2G network have to do with modernization? When does Verizon plan to close their CDMA network? Verizon says they have plans to begin offering VoLTE next year. So I expect they'll dump 1Xrtt by the end of 2017 at the latest. | |
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2012-Aug-15 8:54 pm
Re: How AT&T Works vs. Verizon» www.pcworld.com/business ··· lte.htmlDeep in that article a VZW spokesperson says he wouldn't be surprised if 1X was around until at least 2020, with EVDO being turned down sooner. | |
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2012-Aug-16 3:26 am
Re: How AT&T Works vs. VerizonWell if you have 4G you really don't need 3G. Either way it's repurposing spectrum which is a good thing. | |
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4GMaybe I will finally get 4G service at my place less than 1 mile from Louisville, KY. I have no major blockages its just their towers suck where i'm at. | |
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Could use better 4G CoverageSpringfield, MA was upgraded to 4G last year, although the coverage in Springfield city limits is generally good but the signals in outlying areas (particularly West Springfield and Westfield) revert to 3G. | |
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2012-Aug-15 5:54 pm
MehSame old same old... with such ridiculously low caps and costly overages, why is there any reason to be excited about this? | |
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2012-Aug-15 6:57 pm
Re: Mehsaid by pnh102:Same old same old... with such ridiculously low caps and costly overages, why is there any reason to be excited about this? Yes. | |
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2012-Aug-15 6:01 pm
Yay!Now if only my phone's 4G wouldn't drop every few minutes like it currently does, I'd be all 'yay!' and stuff. I already said 'yay!' Oh, OK, then.
Still. It seems every time they're rolling out a 'new location', the stability of those currently being serviced by the 4G network suffers. I've had no less than 15 dropouts today *ALONE* -- since 9AM. And it's only 3 now! Just curious, am I the only one with this problem? Bionic users sound off! \o/ | |
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Re: Yay!MEANWHILE AT ATT -gotta go slow | |
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This is why AT&T is taking their time.Even on my iPhone 4 with HSPA 7.2, speeds are great. With my AT&T LTE iPad on "4G", I've seen speeds upto 12-13Mbps. We don't need the speed as bad as Sprint and Verizon does. | |
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How Many Verizon Markets in Total?So how many markets in total does Verizon serve? | |
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2012-Aug-16 3:28 am
Re: How Many Verizon Markets in Total?With their expansion on August 16th they have 371 markets.
for the record Verizon has always stated they were going to have at least 400 markets covered by the end of 2012. Well it's August and they are at 371 and each month they have a major expansion of at least 30 new markets. So Verizon should reach that 400 market total in September 3 months early and could be at 500 markets by the end of 2012. | |
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Northern Bergen County"Lit" up about 2 weeks ago. | |
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Coverage in Western Md and NE WVVerizon doesn't even have coverage on 3G around Deep Creek Lake and Oakland Md and in to Preston County WV. Not sure if it is natively their coverage or if you roam on somone else. | |
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Re: Coverage in Western Md and NE WVAs far as I know they don't have plans for 4g in the northern part of the state including wheeling,weirton,moundsville, morgantown,etc until 2013. Makes no sense. Give 4g to towns like logan but skip over towns line weirton, wheeling and even morgantown which are closer to pittsburgh and have alot of people commute from weirton and wheeling and morgantown has 20,000+ college students. I don't even think verizon has 3g at wvu. | |
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AFAIK Verizon doesn't have any native footprint without 3G coverage. If you're in an area that's 1x only it's almost certainly "Extended Network", e.g., a roaming partner. | |
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