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Verizon Launches Broken, 'Me Too' Cloud Storage Platform
Up to 500 MB Free, When It Works
by Karl Bode 08:26AM Friday May 03 2013
Carriers like AT&T and Verizon have a long history of offering "me too" software and service products, even if they've shown repeatedly and painfully that they're not particularly good at developing them. The hope is that these services can be marketed to a captive audience, but often these "me too" products are so immensely lackluster, they wind up being shelved early. Verizon's app store and their VCast video service are just a few examples that come to mind.

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Undaunted by their incompetence in this arena, Verizon this week launched the creatively-named Verizon cloud, their entry into a very crowded and successful field of existing cloud storage services.

Verizon Cloud allows both smartphone and tablet users to store up to 500MB worth of text messages, call logs, contacts, music, and other files for free. After that, users can pay for storage options including $3 a month for 25GB. $7 a month for 75GB, and $10 a month for 125GB.

The SMS backup might prove useful to some, but the 125 GB pricing is about twice what you'll pay for 100 GB from either Microsoft or Google. iOS devices aren't supported yet, though Verizon insists they'll be adding them shortly.

The bigger problem? Like so many carrier attempts at entering content and service markets, Verizon's Cloud service just doesn't appear to be very well designed or constructed. It's effectively an older Verizon backup service with a new name, and reviews over at the Google Play store are utterly dismal. Users note the application crashes their devices, changes their settings without permission, lacks an uninstall option, gives false warnings about there being no Internet connection or space remaining, etc., etc., etc.

If you're waiting for carriers to realize they should stick to what they're usually good at (running networks, raising prices and lobbying) while leaving content and services to the experts, it appears you're going to be waiting a little longer.

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hoyleysox
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Long Beach, CA

The old version was nagware

It would never finish backing up because I had too much data, then kept bugging me to upgrade and pay. Verizon cloud now sits with the other bloatware, still wanting to be upgraded. Wish I could delete it.

aaronwt
Premium
join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA

Re: The old version was nagware

said by hoyleysox:

It would never finish backing up because I had too much data, then kept bugging me to upgrade and pay. Verizon cloud now sits with the other bloatware, still wanting to be upgraded. Wish I could delete it.

The old version never even worked properly with my phone. Even whne I upgraded to more storage it still said that I did not have enough even though it only used a fraction of the total. in the end Verizon said it was some incompatibility with my ReZound phone. Whether that is true or not I don't know. I just know they could never get it to work properly.
itguy05

join:2005-06-17
Carlisle, PA
said by hoyleysox:

Verizon cloud now sits with the other bloatware, still wanting to be upgraded. Wish I could delete it.

Sure. Don't buy an Android device. That and many problems solved.

knewman

join:2010-10-21

Re: The old version was nagware

said by itguy05:

said by hoyleysox:

Verizon cloud now sits with the other bloatware, still wanting to be upgraded. Wish I could delete it.

Sure. Don't buy an Android device. That and many problems solved.

correction - buy the right Android device
itguy05

join:2005-06-17
Carlisle, PA

Re: The old version was nagware

said by knewman See Profile
correction - buy the right Android device
[/BQUOTE :

On Verizon, which would that be? IIRC Nexus devices are not on Verizon and the others are "customized". There are lots of reasons to avoid Anddroid and bloatware is one of them.

flashcore

join:2007-01-23
united state

Re: The old version was nagware

said by itguy05:

said by knewman See Profile
correction - buy the right Android device
[/BQUOTE :

On Verizon, which would that be? IIRC Nexus devices are not on Verizon and the others are "customized". There are lots of reasons to avoid Anddroid and bloatware is one of them.

Tell that to my LTE Nexus on Verizon. The only "customized" options I have are those that I did myself. There is NO Verizon crapware on it at all.
itguy05

join:2005-06-17
Carlisle, PA

Re: The old version was nagware

said by flashcore:

Tell that to my LTE Nexus on Verizon. The only "customized" options I have are those that I did myself. There is NO Verizon crapware on it at all.

Except you can't get it any more:
»www.droid-life.com/2013/01/25/r-···verizon/

Simba7
I Void Warranties

join:2003-03-24
Billings, MT
said by itguy05:

On Verizon, which would that be? IIRC Nexus devices are not on Verizon and the others are "customized". There are lots of reasons to avoid Anddroid and bloatware is one of them.

Find one that is compatible with Cyanogenmod. A relative has the HTC Incredible but hated the crapware on it. So, I rooted it and threw on CM10.1. No more issues and it runs nice and smooth.
Happydude32
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said by itguy05:

On Verizon, which would that be? IIRC Nexus devices are not on Verizon and the others are "customized". There are lots of reasons to avoid Anddroid and bloatware is one of them.

I have a Droid DNA, which is better than the iPhone 5. That is a fact, not an opinion and something that can't be argued. I'm on Verizon, not rooted and running the stock ROM. Here are all of the apps on my phone. Which ones are bloatware? TuneIn and Viewdini, maybe, other than that, I don't see much 'bloatware', do you, Mr. iFanboy?


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Re: The old version was nagware

said by Happydude32:

said by itguy05:

On Verizon, which would that be? IIRC Nexus devices are not on Verizon and the others are "customized". There are lots of reasons to avoid Anddroid and bloatware is one of them.

I have a Droid DNA, which is better than the iPhone 5. That is a fact, not an opinion and something that can't be argued. I'm on Verizon, not rooted and running the stock ROM. Here are all of the apps on my phone. Which ones are bloatware? TuneIn and Viewdini, maybe, other than that, I don't see much 'bloatware', do you, Mr. iFanboy?









Personally,
I see that WHOLE phone as bloated!!
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Re: The old version was nagware

Any and all of those Verizon apps are bloatware. How could you miss that?
Happydude32
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kudos:1

Re: The old version was nagware

Are they bloatware, if they're actually useful and you use them on a regular basis? I use My Verizon and it's widget to keep track of my data usage because of Verizon's idiotic caps. Mobile Hot Spot is just an app that that takes you directly to the Hot Spot settings. Verizon Tones is junk, I pay for Visual Voice Mail so that app is a must, and I absolutely must have NFL Mobile. So out of all the Verizon apps, there is only one I don’t use, plus the two others I mentioned above. It’s really not a big deal.
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Re: The old version was nagware

Bloatware is bloatware regardless if you use them or not. However if you find them use full then so be it but....Android 4.0 has WiFi hotspot built in so my question is why did Verizon waste its time? Data usage tracking is also offered with Android ( Too bad you didn't get in on the unlimited before Verizon get even greedier). Visual voicemail makes no sense to me. You can get plenty of face time with loved ones and friends who live faraway with Google+ Hangouts. I'm sure there are other options as well. As far as NFL mobile I'm sure you can get it without Verizons filthy hands all over it but I'm not sure since I'm a reformed NFL addict. 6 years and don't miss it one bit. Being a Buffalo Bills fan made moving on easier.

I've been a Verizon customer for 10+ years and not once from my perspective have they ever offered a service beyond their standard cell and data connections that was worth anything. Its almost always and afterthought look we offer that too service that never measured up. Look into some other options and you might be able to saves few bucks and apply that to your massive cable and satellite bill.

Steve you and I rarely see eye to eye on a number of topics here but at least we agree on gun control.
Happydude32
Premium
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kudos:1

Re: The old version was nagware

quote:
Bloatware is bloatware regardless if you use them or not.
These apps would be on my phone regardless, so no, these apps aren’t bloatware.
quote:
Android 4.0 has WiFi hotspot built in so my question is why did Verizon waste its time?
The Mobile Hot Spot ‘app’ is just essentially an Icon that takes you to the mobile hotspot menu in the settings. It’s nothing more than a mere shortcut. It’s not a big deal really.

quote:
Data usage tracking is also offered with Android ( Too bad you didn't get in on the unlimited before Verizon get even greedier).
The data usage tracking that’s built into Android is for that device only. I have two smartphones and a USB Air Card on my Family Shared Plan sharing 10GB of data. I would have a tablet too if Verizon offered anything besides a Samsung tablet or the extremely outdated Droid Xyboard. The Verizon app and widget take care of account management across all of the devices. Plus, I can’t even remember if the usage tracker that’s built into Android differentiates between wifi and cellular data.

And I have no intentions with sticking with Verizon, so while the capped data sucks, as soon as Sprint lights up their LTE Network in Buffalo and provided they have a nice high end phone, I’m done with Verizon. I hate this company, I’m only using them as a Band-aid, I will be more than happy to pay the ETF to get away from this horrid company.

quote:
Visual voicemail makes no sense to me.
After having Visual Voice Mail since 2009, I simply cannot do without it. Actually having to dial into voice mail seems so early 2000s to me.

quote:
As far as NFL mobile I'm sure you can get it without Verizons filthy hands all over it but I'm not sure since I'm a reformed NFL addict
Actually, no you can’t. Verizon’s NFL Mobile is an exclusive app to Verizon. A few years ago, I was able to obtain a hacked version of it and install the APK on my Sprint smartphones and it worked, although every time there was an update, I had to wait for the hackers to patch the new version. But Verizon has since locked down even more and I haven’t seen anything on XDA about it being unlocked. The NFL has since came out with another app for all carriers, but I like the Verizon exclusive one much better.

quote:
I've been a Verizon customer for 10+ years and not once from my perspective have they ever offered a service beyond their standard cell and data connections that was worth anything. Its almost always and afterthought look we offer that too service that never measured up. Look into some other options and you might be able to saves few bucks and apply that to your massive cable and satellite bill.
Like I said I hate Verizon, but their data network has been rock solid with getting over 50Mb downstream in a few areas and 20Mb up most everywhere. The towers here in the middle of nowhere just got LTE two weeks ago. I have no interest in saving so much as a penny on my wireless bill. Price is the last thing I care about, it’s so low, it doesn’t even rank. I use a lot of mobile data and so far Verizon is the only one that can deliver reliable, fast speeds no matter where I am. With Sprints shitty 3G network, I couldn’t even stream low quality YouTube videos. Forget about AT&T, they blow. Never heard anything good about T-Mobile, and I’m sure as hell not going to switch to one of those idiotic prepaid ghetto carriers and lame MVNOs. Being addicted to high end smartphones, there’s no way I’m going to use some shitty phone with a small screen and single core processor from Huawei or some other lame company.

quote:
Steve you and I rarely see eye to eye on a number of topics here but at least we agree on gun control.
I feel so dirty now
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Re: The old version was nagware

Thanks for clearing that up. I've learned some. I'm also a member of xda and I also hate Verizon. Like you I'm also considering Sprint when they get their Network straightened out. How dirty do you feel now? Lol
openbox9
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Germany
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Simple root can solve a lot of "problems". Just because you think the iPhone is the greatest thing since sliced bread does not make Android devices any less useful.
itguy05

join:2005-06-17
Carlisle, PA

Re: The old version was nagware

said by openbox9:

Simple root can solve a lot of "problems". Just because you think the iPhone is the greatest thing since sliced bread does not make Android devices any less useful.

Nowhere did I mention the iPhone. And having done my time with Android, there are few redeeming qualities about that platform.
openbox9
Premium
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Germany
kudos:2

Re: The old version was nagware

Aren't you an iPhone guy? Anyway, it doesn't really matter. Different strokes for different folks. My point was that Android isn't necessarily bad just because a few companies add "bloatware". If you don't like it, don't buy it. That's one of the selling points of Android. Plenty of choices and configurations. Google gave Android an ability to disable and hide those undesirable programs without even needing root. Plus, nothing forces you to use one of those applications. Simply don't run it. Throw on a custom launcher, hide the app from the app drawer, and you'll never know it's even there. As for "few redeeming qualities", I can just as easily say the same things about iPhone, WP, and BB, but if one of those works for you, then enjoy.
elefante72

join:2010-12-03
East Amherst, NY
Joke,

Got 50GB FREE from box.com for buying a Nexus 4, and bonus I didn't have to kiss the carrier ring. At a bare minimum 5GB is the floor these days.

I have never met a Verizon app that didn't crash or work properly. Still the FIOS ipad app is buggy as he$$. Roam on wifi, 3 hotspots in America and only on a PC.

Oh and box.com is secure (actual companies use it) and it runs on all my devices, android, tabs, iphone, PC, and all.

Titanium backup automagically backs up all that stuff (SMS and all) (and it works) every night to box.com. No touching required...

Simba7
I Void Warranties

join:2003-03-24
Billings, MT
I'd list all of mine, but itguy05's brain might implode.

I have >100 apps on my 3 year old Captivate running Cyanogenmod 10.1 (May02 build). I also have Rdio sending its' cache to a 32GB MicroSD card, so I can have one heck of a music collection without eating up the internal 13GB of usable space.

I also have it protected with an Otterbox Defender. It's funny when I can drop it from 6 feet onto solid concrete and watch people freak.

Let's see you do that with a 3 year old iPhone.
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floydb1982

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What I don't understand is why anybody even bother's with online backup at at all any more .

If it's that is important that you don't want loose your data then just simply get an external USB 3.0 HDD . All you have to do is pay to buy the drive and the rest is complete free to backup your most important data on to the external USB 3.0 HDD .

I bought a Western Digital external USB 3.0 2TB HDD from my local Walmart Supercenter to backup my important data. Only cost me to buy the drive and free to backup and store data on it.

It's just that simple .
hoyleysox
Premium
join:2003-11-07
Long Beach, CA

Re: The old version was nagware

said by floydb1982:

What I don't understand is why anybody even bother's with online backup at at all any more .

If it's that is important that you don't want loose your data then just simply get an external USB 3.0 HDD . All you have to do is pay to buy the drive and the rest is complete free to backup your most important data on to the external USB 3.0 HDD .

I bought a Western Digital external USB 3.0 2TB HDD from my local Walmart Supercenter to backup my important data. Only cost me to buy the drive and free to backup and store data on it.

It's just that simple .

I use Google + to backup photos from my phone automatically and use google drive/mail to backup important documents. I'm not going to lug around an external drive with me everywhere, I could drop it or lose it and lose all my important data.
MaynardKrebs
Heave Steve, for the good of the country
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kudos:4

Sharing contents with the gubbmint

....included free, whether you like it or not.
Gandalf4503

join:2002-06-27
Cohoes, NY

And now...

All of your text messages and contacts can also be fed to the government right from the convenience of the cloud. How awesome.

n2jtx

join:2001-01-13
Glen Head, NY

Snooping

Wasn't there are story here recently about a guy who was turned in by Verizon for backing up child porn to their backup service? I am not condoning child porn but the fact that Verizon found it means they are actively trolling through the user data entrusted to them looking for things. Basically forget about backing up anything to them you do not want public such as tax returns and financial statements.

I trust Verizon to protect my data about as much as I would feel safe leaving a brand new Ferrari parked overnight in East New York, Brooklyn with the keys in the ignition. In fact, I might find the car still there in the morning but Verizon will have fed my cloud data to god knows who.
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openbox9
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Germany
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Re: Snooping

said by n2jtx:

Wasn't there are story here recently about a guy who was turned in by Verizon for backing up child porn to their backup service?

I believe that story also lacked detail, but a hypothesis that was thrown on the table suggested that VZ routinely scans its infrastructure for malware may have have a signature hit. I seriously doubt some poor SOB is looking through every person's "private" information.
said by n2jtx:

Basically forget about backing up anything to them you do not want public such as tax returns and financial statements.

Can you not say that about every network/system that is outside of your control?

Anony

@truenet.com

0 Stars for Privacy on EFF, and a bad track record.

Just be careful of what you upload...
0 Stars on the EFF:
»www.eff.org/pages/when-governmen···our-back
Track record of spying:
»arstechnica.com/information-tech···s-cloud/

I could see the RIAA/MPAA coming to get you for infringement as Verizon isn't the greatest of privacy advocates.
dfxmatt

join:2007-08-21
Evanston, IL

lets ask the fun question

lets ask the fun question: is this storage counted against your cap (thus being incredibly limited), or does it not count against your data usage cap, in which case it's a violation of net neutrality?

edit: lovely. it's the former. so, if you try to play something back you've "uploaded to the cloud", it uses your data. Maybe someone should ask how accessing 125GB of stuff from the cloud adds up to their 10GB monthly data cap.
axus

join:2001-06-18
Washington, DC

Re: lets ask the fun question

Good point! Verizon could increase the data cap for anyone who signs up for this service. That would be a way to get people to sign up, and remain network neutral.
openbox9
Premium
join:2004-01-26
Germany
kudos:2
WiFi? Do you access 125 GB every month?
dfxmatt

join:2007-08-21
Evanston, IL

Re: lets ask the fun question

completely irrelevant, openbox. They're giving people the option. It's not a matter of if or how they use what they're given.
openbox9
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Germany
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Re: lets ask the fun question

It is relevant. You are correct in it doesn't matter how consumers utilize their services, as long as they're willing to pay for them. I'm not suggesting otherwise.
dfxmatt

join:2007-08-21
Evanston, IL
ok let me put it this way.

I am on unlimited data, so whether I access 125GB or not does not matter at all.

again, it is not relevant. If the capability is there to access more data than your data cap, made accessible by your same data provider? then that is the issue.

this is triple dipping by verizon: first they're double charging data with caps, now an additional dip by asking you to pay for something that is unnecessary in addition, which will also contribute to data usage if not done over wifi? pure greed.

also enjoy that most phones don't even have 125GB of storage, so there's that as well.
silbaco
Premium
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USA

Skydrive

I already have 25GB for free from Skydrive. That's more than enough.

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Re: Skydrive

said by silbaco:

I already have 25GB for free from Skydrive. That's more than enough.

Same here. I also pay for unlimited cloud backup elsewhere. Verizon tried sneaking this crap on to my bill when I renewed my other FIOS services at a cheaper rate. The rep did not mention it at all but I caught it when I logged on to my account after the call to check it. I then had to call back and demand they take it off, which they did.
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Marshfield, MA

1 recommendation

Beware since Verizon was just ranked LAST in privacy

»www.eff.org/who-has-your-back-2013

Not sure I'd want to put a picture of my cat up there.

FLATLINE

join:2007-02-27
Buffalo, NY

Dumb pipe

Verizon is a dumb pipe, thats all. They have never offered any service that was actually usefull.

camstone

join:2003-12-11
Alexandria, VA

O RLY?

640K is all anyone should ever need....