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| | | Sprint doesn't seem to overcharge Sprint has an overage charge after 5GB but doesn't seem to be charging anything. I've gone over 5GB many many times - no overcharges. | |
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| |  en102Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | Re: Sprint doesn't seem to overcharge Sprint needs customers... they're not willing to put a poison pill to their customers while they are losing customers without a cap. Give them some time.
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1 edit | said by xenophon:Sprint has an overage charge after 5GB but doesn't seem to be charging anything. I've gone over 5GB many many times - no overcharges. maybe THAT's why they're in such dire financial straits. | |
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| | Slightly? Moving from 50 MB to 250 MB is a 500% increase. A tad bigger than a "slight" bump... | |
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| | | Re: Slightly? said by Baltimore :
Moving from 50 MB to 250 MB is a 500% increase. A tad bigger than a "slight" bump...
Slightly is a relative term. If they had a 1kb cap and increased it to 1024kb cap, they could claim over a 1000% increase, but you still wouldn't be able to download a month's worth of even e-mail.
250MB is still incredibly small, perhaps only good for checking a personal e-mail account, and almost never an active business one. Not to even mention web browsing. | |
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|  funchordsHelloPremium,MVM
join:2001-03-11
Yarmouth Port, MA
kudos:5 | Exchanging the nickle in my pocket for a quarter is still a slight bump in the grand scheme of things.
50 MB was laughable. 250 MB is, well, still laughable.
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ke4pymPremium
join:2004-07-24
Charlotte, NC | Odd My bill still shows I have "unlimited data" on the $59.99 plan.
Wonder if this is for new customers. | |
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|  MattAll noise, no signal.Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
kudos:12 | Re: Odd said by ke4pym:My bill still shows I have "unlimited data" on the $59.99 plan. Wonder if this is for new customers. I signed a contract with VZW over 2 years ago (has since expired and I've moved carriers) and it mentioned the 5GB limit. It was buried somewhere in the bill itself though, not on the summary line. | |
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| | ke4pymPremium
join:2004-07-24
Charlotte, NC Reviews:
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| Re: Odd said by Matt:said by ke4pym:My bill still shows I have "unlimited data" on the $59.99 plan. Wonder if this is for new customers. I signed a contract with VZW over 2 years ago (has since expired and I've moved carriers) and it mentioned the 5GB limit. It was buried somewhere in the bill itself though, not on the summary line. In every instance of my bill it says "unlimited data". I've scoured the 8 page report and can't find any instance where it says anything other than that.
I started service with them in May of 2006. | |
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| | | MattAll noise, no signal.Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
kudos:12 | Re: Odd said by ke4pym:said by Matt:said by ke4pym:My bill still shows I have "unlimited data" on the $59.99 plan. Wonder if this is for new customers. I signed a contract with VZW over 2 years ago (has since expired and I've moved carriers) and it mentioned the 5GB limit. It was buried somewhere in the bill itself though, not on the summary line. In every instance of my bill it says "unlimited data". I've scoured the 8 page report and can't find any instance where it says anything other than that. I started service with them in May of 2006. I just checked an old bill and you're right, mine says:
PDA/SMARTPHONE Unl
$44.99 monthly access charge
Unlimited monthly kilobyte
However, the tether package does have a limit attached, weird:
BBA Connect 5GB/$.25mb
$15.00 monthly access charge
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| | | |  pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD | Re: Odd It probably means you have the technical capability of having unlimited data, not that you get a flat rate for unlimited data consumption. 
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| | | | ke4pymPremium
join:2004-07-24
Charlotte, NC | I've got a data card. Wonder if that's where the difference lies. | |
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| | | | | | I take care the business acount for the company that i work, you have and old plan, and YES you have unlimited data until contract expires, they you will go to the 5gb | |
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This is true of all data packages from VZW. Presuming you're on a data plan, a PHONES data is unlimited. Any data not used on a phone isn't (aircard, MiFi, tethering, etc), and is subject to the limit specified on your bill. | |
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1 edit | Still a Joke! 5 Cents per MB, thats crazy I pay 3 Cents per GB overage with one of my servers.
If they would just offer a reasonable amount for the cap this wouldn't be a problem. | |
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|  ThrowDemsOutIf you can't convince 'em, confuse 'emPremium
join:2002-03-03
Mullica Hill, NJ
kudos:4 | Re: Still a Joke! said by dlewis23:5 Cents per MB, thats crazy I pay 3 Cents per GB overage with one of my servers. And that server data doesn't run thru a cell tower with a T1 link providing access to the backbone. | |
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join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | Re: Still a Joke! said by ThrowDemsOut:said by dlewis23:5 Cents per MB, thats crazy I pay 3 Cents per GB overage with one of my servers. And that server data doesn't run thru a cell tower with a T1 link providing access to the backbone. And that somehow costs Verizon $51 per GB to provide that?
Does Verizon at this time need a cap? yes. Can they bump it to 10 GB and still be ok? Yes. Can they charge $1 per GB overage instead of $51 and be ok? yes. | |
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| | | | I would hazard a guess and say many cell towers would have significantly more capacity than a T1? | |
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 Reviews:
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| Re: Still a Joke! I priced out a T1 last week to my place, which is relatively representative of the pricing Verizon etc. would get aorund here, and found it to e much less expensive than expected. A mere $600/month in fact. A few bucks per GB to be sure, but not even the $12 per GB that they charge for a mobile broadband plan... | |
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| | No thanks If it was only 250MB a day. I would take it but no thanks. | |
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join:2003-07-05 | 250 megs... I used almost 2 gigs on my iPhone alone last month, 250 megs is a joke. | |
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join:2001-04-27
Shelby, NC
kudos:1 | Weak VZW, your offers are still week. If you really want to knock AT&T out of the park you need to do better. | |
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| BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | Re: Weak said by netwire:VZW, your offers are still week. If you really want to knock AT&T out of the park you need to do better. at&t overages = $503 per GB with the same 5 GB cap. I'd say Verizon wins that one. | |
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| | | | Re: Weak Sprint wins. They have an overcharge (and far more 3G coverage than ATT) but they haven't enforced overcharges yet. Not on me anyway. | |
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| | | BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | Re: Weak said by xenophon:Sprint wins. They have an overcharge (and far more 3G coverage than ATT) but they haven't enforced overcharges yet. Not on me anyway. Verizion's overages are in line with Sprint and Sprint doesn't have shit for 3G coverage. 95% of my state is covered with Verizon 3G maybe 10% with Sprint. Hell you can't even get Sprint cell service in my town. | |
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| | | | | BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | Re: Weak Yes go for LESS customers and that's why Sprint is a distant 3rd. | |
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| | | | | As already said Sprint does not want to piss off customers to have even more leave. | |
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join:1999-11-19
Brooklyn, NY | Not enough even for Windows Updates Those laptops will be selling with XP or Vista.
Since XP SP3 Microsoft released more than 250MB worth of updates.
Since Vista SP1 Microsoft released more than 250MB worth of updates. And Vista SP2 is coming out in a few weeks will be more than 250MB as well.
Why the hell would people buy these services when the provided plans are not enough to even keep your OS secure and up to date?! 
I'm not even talking about regular day to day use.
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| | | Re: Not enough even for Windows Updates Even just casually browsing on this site each day can bring you over the cap in no time.  | |
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| BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | said by MxxCon:Those laptops will be selling with XP or Vista. Since XP SP3 Microsoft released more than 250MB worth of updates. Since Vista SP1 Microsoft released more than 250MB worth of updates. And Vista SP2 is coming out in a few weeks will be more than 250MB as well. Why the hell would people buy these services when the provided plans are not enough to even keep your OS secure and up to date?! I'm not even talking about regular day to day use. well if you want to do any real downloading you'll have to just go the local library or coffee shop or leach off any neightbors to stupid to not protect their wi-fi connections. | |
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| | MxxCon
join:1999-11-19
Brooklyn, NY | Re: Not enough even for Windows Updates in that case i wouldn't be buying such service at all. | |
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join:2000-06-08
Glendale, CA | 50MB to 250MB not bad but still small cap 50MB? Damn. What were they thinking? One youtube video and you're done.
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1 edit | Still Needs Some Tuning If VZW wants to keep me after December of this year (since I'm still considering Millenicom), either they kill overage fees, get rid of throttling, and/ or raise their monthly cap to something more feasible since I can still milk through 5 GB in a month easily. | |
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| iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | Re: Still Needs Some Tuning Here's teh problem: if MCom uses Verizon in your area, you get a soft 5GB cap instead of a hard one. After about 10GB they don't want you on their network anymore. | |
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| | Still too low of caps If they would increase the 5GB cap to 10GB, I think anybody would be able to suffice with that.
That 250MB one is horrible though. And before that 50MB? I mean come on; a dial up user could go over that in a month. | |
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| | | Re: Still too low of caps My dial-up can do that in less then 4 hours.
50 * 1024 / 60 / 60 / 4 (KBps) = 3.55 hours
Theoretical max of 53.3 kbps = 23985 KB max download per hour of dial-up, so ~ 23.4 MB per hour.
(For the record that comes out to almost 17 gigs in a 30 day month, a 10 gig cap would be a joke. this is the 21st century and 5 GB is the best we can do?) | |
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| | BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | Re: Still too low of caps said by trackdrew:My dial-up can do that in less then 4 hours. 50 * 1024 / 60 / 60 / 4 (KBps) = 3.55 hours Theoretical max of 53.3 kbps = 23985 KB max download per hour of dial-up, so ~ 23.4 MB per hour. (For the record that comes out to almost 17 gigs in a 30 day month, a 10 gig cap would be a joke. this is the 21st century and 5 GB is the best we can do?) No reason why they can't have at least a 20 GB cap. 20 GB is 8 kbps over 30 days. Now if everyone using 8 kbps is going to overload the system then something is wrong.
instead of overage fees Verizon should do like satelite does and just throttle the speeds down to around dial-up. worst case scenario someone would use 36 GB a month. Big deal. | |
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| | still too low The overages are still too low, why would anyone purchase one of these laptops when 250 megs isn't even enough to cover MS updates? | |
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Even here in Israel i pay Orange $20/month for 5GB 3G\HSDPA data plan.
Cellcom, another 3G cellphone provider here sells unlimited for $30/month.
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