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Also...on VZW with a Droid now. Might switch to a different phone, or a different carrier, but it won't be the iPhone or AT&T in either case.
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| Re: AT&T pays AT&T? Why? Do you not like the Droid? Unhappy with carrier? What up?
I question because I am considering the Droid 2 (August release) and staying with VZW.
Too bad the rumors of a 1/2011 iPhone on VZW are still rumors. But I know ATT's (exclusive) contract with Apple is up on midnight 12/31/2010... | |
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| | | | Re: AT&T pays AT&T? another random date. There is no hard date that anyone know of. It's all "talk". | |
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| |  rawWar EaglePremium
join:2001-01-17
Madison, AL | Out of curiosity, why the Droid 2?
Do you have any interest in running custom ROMs/tinkering with your phone? | |
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join:2001-02-06
Waterbury, CT | You're right..Verizon doesn't need the Iphone... Have you gotten a look at the DroidX?
IMHO...there's nothing else out there to even consider when you do. I was in Walmart yesterday picking up a few things and passed by their wireless phone counter. My jaw dropped as I saw one on Display. It is so different and struck me as the difference between someone having an old 17inch monitor on a desktop versus a 22 Inch flat panel.
And what's more, while the screen size is and looks HUGE...the phone itself isn't. It's the way they make use of that real estate. I pulled it from it's display as far as I could given the security cord attached and compared it side by side with others and it's not much wider at all. I put it up to my shirt pocket and it would fit in there very nicely.
This is a whole new ballgame and a game changer in the industry. The specs and speed of the processor ...really stunning display and all the possibilities that now surround this to capture a market that really isn't there at all right now.
This is a portable device you can watch video on and enjoy it and I think is what the future is really all about because it captures the best of the mobile market..something between the smaller displays and carrying a notebook around.
Apple doesn't need to worry about the iphone antenna..because doing so isn't going to fix what is really ailing them.
And what is ailing them..is called DROIDX.
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 Reviews:
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| Re: You're right..Verizon doesn't need the Iphone... Are you using Verizon right now? If not, keep in mind that it's a rather expensive carrier these days...though you do get unlimited data with the smartphone plan (ahem, AT&T). That said, the Droid X is indeed an awesome device...kind of like the Evo 4G, but *maybe* with better battery life. | |
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| |  fcislerPremium
join:2004-06-14
Riverhead, NY | Re: You're right..Verizon doesn't need the Iphone... 1) Root the EVO, install DamageControl
2) Charge fully until it says "Charged" and not 100%.
3) Let drain until automatically shuts off
4) Charge fully
5) Quit killing ANY apps or using ANY type of app killer
After a couple charges/discharges (they do not have to be a fully discharge) you will be amazed at the battery calibration and the ROM itself.
This phone EASILY beats my iPhone 3GS with heavy usage all day.
My issue with the DroidX is twofold: Motorola (ever since they required a DRIVER for the Razr to charge) and they have some IBM anti security on it. | |
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | Re: You're right..Verizon doesn't need the Iphone... My Evo was defective...13 hours of pretty much no activity, no Bluetooth, no WiFi, drained battery. I think a lot of people are experiencing the same thing.
I'll get the Epic 4G when it comes out. | |
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I ended up not using any app killers, but, as I rooted it, I did kill several items from starting up (mostly Motorola items). | |
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
kudos:12 | I'm going to give that a shot. The EVO (the credit is really due to HTC's Sense UI) is absolutely stunning. My EVO 4G is the best phone I've owned so far ... if you forget the fact that 4G is useless on it because it can never get a 4G signal. | |
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
kudos:12 | Re: You're right..Verizon doesn't need the Iphone... said by oavirusxm202 :
Yeah - but every Droid person I know carries their phone charger with them and complains about the lack of phone power - and the weight of the unit.
That is because you can do so much more with a Droid phone. For me, (having owned several "Droid" phones and several iPhones), it's well worth it.
The Droid lacks a few Enterprise control features in regards to Exchange that I hate, but overall, an Android phone with the Sense UI (personally) is a much more capable device, especially since it's not tied to the AT&T network. | |
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That pretty much sums it up, doesn't it? | |
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join:2003-07-03
Boston, MA | Re: You're right..Verizon doesn't need the Iphone... said by Littleguy:'"I was in Walmart yesterday" That pretty much sums it up, doesn't it?' Actually, THIS sums it up. | |
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD | Told You So I always believed that if Verizon wanted to offer the iPhone, it could and would move heaven and earth to make it happen. Verizon simply doesn't care for the iPhone.
Of course now that I've said that they are not going to sell it, they will start offering it. 
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| | | Re: Told You So I agree with you on this. I think the fact that Apple wanted to control to much when they approached Verizon is what caused the lack of interest. | |
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| Re: Told You So said by questionable:I agree with you on this. I think the fact that Apple wanted to control to much when they approached Verizon is what caused the lack of interest. I think it was Verizon that wanted a lower-priced point on the phone, AND more control over app profits (like a Verizon-like iPhone App in iTunes that dibs to VZW some profit).
Remember Apple makes $$$ selling phones, not so much on Apps. Verizon wants $$ for plans, minutes, ETF, taxes, subsidies, and anything else they can. | |
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join:2005-03-10
Whittier, AK
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 Reviews:
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| Where do you get the $650 figure from? Where do you get the $650 number for what AT&T is paying Apple per iPhone? SOunds a bit high, considering the bulk in which AT&T is buying. Also, that would mean AT&T is taking a $350+ subsidy per phone, which is more than the $15 data plan makes over two years... | |
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|  jgkoltPremium
join:2004-02-21
Lakewood, OH | Re: Where do you get the $650 figure from? the $15 plan does not include the cost of all the overages does it? and after iphone exclusivity AT&T will need to actually compete. | |
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join:2007-02-19
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kudos:2 | Re: Where do you get the $650 figure from? I've heard of people who stay under that cap. I wouldn't, but there are *some* people who would. | |
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join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
kudos:2 | Re: Where do you get the $650 figure from? In their homes on WiFi. I'm still getting used to my DX, but according to VZW, I've used 49 MB (8 MB was last night sending pics of my son to my wife on a business trip) in the two days of my current billing cycle. I don't have WiFi turned on. Granted a lot of the usage is me playing with my new toy and I expect usage to even out after a while...especially after I set it up on my wireless at home. | |
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join:2002-10-01
Anchorage, AK | I stay under the cap easily. I have a MiFi device that my local ISP offers for $20/month with unlimited use. Since I'm paying for it anyway, I might as well use it! I offload a bit of my usage, especially picture uploads and such with it. | |
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AT&T's churn is very low, about as low as Verizon. They are not "bleeding customers".
AT&T's network is fine - I've used it since 2005 and it's been good, as good as Verizon.
That being said I'm "evaluating" the DroidX as a replacement for my iPhone. Definitely NOT as polished as the iPhone but does a whole lot more. I've got 20-some more days to decide. | |
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Android would have never got off the ground if Apple went with Verizon as well. Everyone would have got an iPhone when they were the only game in town, and they would have been too invested in apps, drm'd movies, and the IOS to ever switch to Android.
Instead, many people stuck with Verizon until the Android phones caught up. Now that Android has a substantial and fast growing user base, there is no stopping it.
It will be the droid users that are vested in all their Android goodies that will not move to Apple if that mythical Verizon iPhone day ever comes. Seems like every month that goes by, means a few hundred thousand more android converts, and a few hundred thousand less Verizon iPhone potential buyers.
It's only going to get worse. Verizon will likely have an LTE, 2 core, super AMOLED, Android 3.0 phone before the next iPhone upgrade.
Verizon took some hits, but now Apple needs Verizon, way more than Verizon needs Apple. | |
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So far I LOVE my Droid X. I havent put it down since I bought it and havent looked back. My girl used to gloat about her Iphone over my Blackberry Tour, now its a shockingly touchy subject when I bring up my phone over hers. How ever, that doesnt make it a great phone...
I agree with many. ATT's network is trash. At least in the Midwest. (Oklahoma for sure). We have so many problems with her phone dropping calls, static when not talking, calls not taking, etc etc etc etc.. And she lives in a fairly large city with good ATT coverage. Yet on my CDMA phones, US Cellular for work and Verizon for play, I've got service everywhere and you would be hard press to put me in a situation where you couldnt hear me or i couldnt make a call.. and Oklahoma has alooot of country side.
With Verizon, if I leave my home county, I spend alot of time in 2g coverage. But to me, thats honestly fine. Apps still download fine and timely, the 4.3 inches of screen make it a blast to use, and I can hold it with my left hand!! Honestly though, it gets great reception.
After seeing the innovations being made on the Android front, I truly believe iPhone has gone strictly niche. The Evo and Droid X trump the Iphone on SO many features. Apple cant even use Apps in its defense anymore, have you seen the google market lately? Holy shit.. And developers can do what they want without much restriction.
Anyways, thats my two cents for anyone who needs the change. I love my Droid X and so far I love Verizon's network and the all around simplicity of doing business with them.
200$ for a 4.3 Inch touch screen phone with a 1ghz cpu, dedicated graphics, awesome 3d to boot, a seemingly infinite amount of apps, HDMI out, HD Video and Pic recording 24Gigs of memory, built in wifi hotspot, and on a reliable network.
Fuck Yea.
I mean...Its got a frickin Metal Detector app!!
I dont see how anyone could take an Iphone over any good droid phone. (Evo, Incredible, Droid, Droid X)
But in the end... Its all about taste, and what people want.
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| | Moto Droid I got tired of waiting for a Verizon iPhone and got the Moto Droid shortly after release
I like the phone very much and Verizon is the only ISP in southern Az that has the coverage I need to run my business
As satisfied I am with my Droid, I will switch to the iPhone about same day they run on Verizon
I am a long time Mac user and the integration between the phone and OS10 makes it a no brainer for me | |
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