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Verizon Miffed at AT&T's 'Most Reliable' Network Claim
by Karl Bode 08:24AM Tuesday Jul 23 2013
The other day AT&T began crowing that the company's wireless network was the "most reliable," even though the majority of recent studies on network performance (including RootMetrics and PC Magazine) actually show Verizon's network is usually the most reliable (trhough your mileage will obviously vary geographically). The new ad campaign has apparently annoyed Verizon, who took out a full page ad in the Wall Street Journal protesting that their claims of reliability are "not a hollow claim...or a slogan...or a fancy ad campaign." Oddly they don't really directly dispute AT&T's claims, even though (for now) the data is in their favor. Granted none of this marketing bravado makes much of a difference at this point, given network coverage claims are all inflated, and every carrier now claims they offer the nation's "largest 4G network."

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cableties
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join:2005-01-27

LOL.. My network is better than yours!

Fact: AT&T overcharges for cellphone plans, and SMS messages.
Fact: Verizon (" ")

Both lack complete Continental US coverage. Both charge fees that they don't show in total plan costs. And both mirror each other in plans, packages, pricing...
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MovieLover76

join:2009-09-11
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Re: LOL.. My network is better than yours!

While I use AT&T LTE because it's free through work, I can tell you from personal experience it is not the most reliable, Verizon is better and most people in my area seem to agree. Both overcharge, though when comparing the two companies for my personal usage, AT&T is actually a bit cheaper, Verizon charges even more than AT&T.

gutch14

@ptd.net

Re: LOL.. My network is better than yours!

I have a personal AT&T iphone5 and a work Verizon iphone 5. They both equally suck. One is good in one spot while another isn't and vice versa.

FLATLINE

join:2007-02-27
Buffalo, NY
Well there you have it. Apparently Verizon is better overall because thats the way it is in his shitty town.

Are you all capable of understanding that the country is quite big and both have areas in which they serve very well and others they don't?

skeechan
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So which turd floats higher in the bowl?

That is what they are arguing about? They still both suck.
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Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus

join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY

Re: So which turd floats higher in the bowl?

skeechan Google came up with 2,610,000 answers to your question in 0.43 seconds. The question is, is the world ready for the answer?

skeechan
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Re: So which turd floats higher in the bowl?

The question is, does anyone give a crap? The answer is no because consumers already know they both suck...Google not needed for that one.
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n2jtx

join:2001-01-13
Glen Head, NY

Merger?

I am wondering when they will finally drop all pretenses and merge back into one giant phone company. They can change their name from at&t back to AT&T.
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battleop

join:2005-09-28
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Re: Merger?

Pretty unlikely. A 3rd party would have to come up with some sort of subspace transmitter for their phones and take half of each of their customers. Pretty much there is no way they will ever merge to become a monopoly.
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elefante72

join:2010-12-03
East Amherst, NY
Coke vs Pepsi. They are already an oligopoly using Bertrand Competition which pretty much has the same pricing effects, there is just the illusion of competition.

They are both brown, made w/ HFCS, cost the same, have stupid ads, come in 2L, and are in every grocery store. Move on.

Of course if you live in the NE corridor you know 100% that Verizon is better than AT&T. I can't remember the last time a call dropped. However my AT&T counterparts will sit next to me on the phone and voila it drops ALL the time. NYC and AT&T forget it but is much better in the last year. Verizon has high floor issues in midtown tho. It's not perfect.

In any case we s**t on TMO and Sprint, but they were left to AWS and PCS scraps not juicy low frequency so their networks will never cover as much as the big two. Its like you let them play football, but without protection gear....
xenophon

join:2007-09-17

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Re: Merger?

said by elefante72:

In any case we s**t on TMO and Sprint, but they were left to AWS and PCS scraps not juicy low frequency so their networks will never cover as much as the big two.

Sprint is rolling out 800Mhz voice now and 800LTE later this year. They should be competitive with ATT/VZW coverage (outside rural areas) within a year and will exceed them in capacity. Never say never.

Edit: Nice summary here...
»www.extremetech.com/extreme/1620···formance
elefante72

join:2010-12-03
East Amherst, NY

Re: Merger?

oh yeah. Old Nextel. I never thought they would get those towers shut down. Touche... Of course TMO is still on the outside.
I would love Sprint to air things out a little. 3-ways are always more interesting....
If they could free up some upper UHF for TMO and the game will be afoot.
xenophon

join:2007-09-17

Re: Merger?

Sprint will be in good shape by next year if they can execute. Softbank $16B boost should increase chances. Tmob's only chance for lower band appears to be 600Mhz auction, and that may be years away before they can deploy.
djnrg787

join:2009-06-10
Saint Louis, MO

Since when?

Last I knew Verizon was the one with all the lte outages, att doesn't need to report am lte outage as it falls back to "4g" I won't switch I'm still unlimited and so far att hasn't forced me off. Also I can't live without browsing and taking at the same time I use it daily. But that's my two cents.

Hall
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join:2000-04-28
Germantown, OH
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Re: Since when?

When is the last time Verizon had and LTE outage?
djnrg787

join:2009-06-10
Saint Louis, MO

Re: Since when?

I believe last year around this time toon out most of their network.
BiggA

join:2005-11-23
EARTH

AT&T is more reliable

Although it varies by location, Verizon's LTE is overloaded in some key markets, and is paper thin in many places. In many places, AT&T's network is much denser, with LTE on nearly every tower.

I think the reality is that Verizon's CDMA voice is technically the most reliable (although it sounds like crap), but AT&T's data is better. Of course that's a nationwide average, and both carriers have their strong and weak markets.
djnrg787

join:2009-06-10
Saint Louis, MO

Re: AT&T is more reliable

I do notice when I talk to someone on Verizon it sounds like a VoIP connection on a congested Internet line choppy and what not.
BiggA

join:2005-11-23
EARTH

Re: AT&T is more reliable

Yeah, that's putting it nicely!
mja1980

join:2013-05-09

dont think so

they say that they have more coverage when really studies show verizon has more towers