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kudos:2 | Why Karl? "ditching unlimited wireless data pricing (which really isn't unlimited anyway)" Smartphone data plans are unlimited. | |
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 Romney2012Defeat Obama 2012-Chg we can believe inPremium
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1 edit |  Key phrase by Verizon rep
We will continue to monitor the situation, of course, and look at opportunities that will say what is the best equation for us to drive long-term shareholder value As for ALL companies that is the prime directive - as it should be.
Tiered pricing, and later hopefully bill-by-byte, will be the future of internet pricing for both wireless and landlines. Bill-by-byte is fairer and also would result in the best chance that capacity will be expanded whenever needed.
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|  Shack
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Bloomington, IN | Re: Key phrase by Verizon rep Why would it drive expanding capacity, they can just charge greater rates for an artificially scare commodity. If anything unlimited data or large caps is more likely to drive expansion of infrastructure. Bil-by-byte will do nothing friendly for consumers and greatly slow innovation of internet services, I am sure the Cable co's would love stopping the competition of internet delivered video cold. | |
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| | | | Re: Key phrase by Verizon rep Bill-by-byte might be an advantage for light users but overall it means users have to be conscious of their usage and developers will restrict potential of apps with limits in mind. It would slow down innovation for mobile devices.
With only so much spectrum real estate, there is an inherent limit, so hopefully carriers find a way to manage it without slowing down innovation. | |
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| | | | | Re: Key phrase by Verizon rep Throttling heavy users is a good first step. | |
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| | | | | | Re: Key phrase by Verizon rep Yeah, throttling makes more sense than caps. | |
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| | | | | | | said by xenophon:Yeah, throttling makes more sense than caps. There's not even a need to throttle. AT&T and Verizon have lots of unused spectrum, and once they get their 4G networks built out they can start shifting 3G spectrum to 4G. They don't cap wireless networks in competitive countries like Sweden and Japan. | |
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|  Frankis chillingPremium
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4 edits | said by Romney2012:We will continue to monitor the situation, of course, and look at opportunities that will say what is the best equation for us to drive long-term shareholder value As for ALL companies that is the prime directive - as it should be. Tiered pricing, and later hopefully bill-by-byte, will be the future of internet pricing for both wireless and landlines. Bill-by-byte is fairer and also would result in the best chance that capacity will be expanded whenever needed. nobody in this country wants to think about how much internet usage they consumed. cablevision was thinking about it but found customers hated the idea, at&t tried it and failed, roadrunner tried it and failed.
it doesnt take a genius to figure out that any competitor can simply make a marketing campaign showing people getting overage bills for their internet and it would increase their numbers by ALOT and cause massive churn rates for any company stupid enough to try this (and as a result screwing over the shareholder).
i dont have verizon now but my non-technical girlfriend does.. when I told her about the rumor that verizon was going to charge by how much internet she used, she told me she would cancel verizon in a heartbeat if they ever did.
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| | | | Re: Key phrase by Verizon rep You presume they won't operate as a cartel of duopolies. | |
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| | | Frankis chillingPremium
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1 edit | Re: Key phrase by Verizon rep said by InfinityDev:You presume they won't operate as a cartel of duopolies. no, I presume that someone new will always come in and disrupt the market to create a profit as seen currently with wireless with carriers such as metro pcs, cricket, etc..
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| | | | | | Re: Key phrase by Verizon rep Don't all of those carriers (Metro PCS, Cricket) sublet capacity from the large carriers and so they can't offer more expansive service than the spectrum owner? | |
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| | | | | Frankis chillingPremium
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3 edits | Re: Key phrase by Verizon rep said by InfinityDev:Don't all of those carriers (Metro PCS, Cricket) sublet capacity from the large carriers and so they can't offer more expansive service than the spectrum owner? no, they both own their own spectrum.
you're thinking of mvno's which by the way usually wind up providing more services for a lower price than their spectrum owners.
examples;
sprint -> »www.virginmobileusa.com/ -> $60 unlimted everything
tmobile -> »www.mysimplemobile.com/ -> $60 unlimited everything
at&t --> »www.joltmobile.com/rateplans.aspx -> $50 unlimited talk and text.
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1 edit | said by Frank:it doesnt take a genius to figure out that any competitor can simply make a marketing campaign showing people getting overage bills for their internet and it would increase their numbers by ALOT and cause massive churn rates for any company stupid enough to try this (and as a result screwing over the shareholder). not 2 hours ago....
»consumerist.com/2010/07/college-···ill.html | |
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| | | Romney2012Defeat Obama 2012-Chg we can believe inPremium
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1 edit | Re: Key phrase by Verizon rep said by baineschile:said by Frank:it doesnt take a genius to figure out that any competitor can simply make a marketing campaign showing people getting overage bills for their internet and it would increase their numbers by ALOT and cause massive churn rates for any company stupid enough to try this (and as a result screwing over the shareholder). not 2 hours ago.... » consumerist.com/2010/07/college-···ill.html And it is obvious she has no idea of how a smartphone using push technology is constantly getting and sending status updates for email; Facebook; daily data backups; etc. She thinks LOGGING ON to Facebook was her only data access. Of course I don't buy 4.7 GB in a week unless she was tethering somehow and spent all her time online no matter what she claimed.
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| | | Frankis chillingPremium
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somewhere | said by baineschile:said by Frank:it doesnt take a genius to figure out that any competitor can simply make a marketing campaign showing people getting overage bills for their internet and it would increase their numbers by ALOT and cause massive churn rates for any company stupid enough to try this (and as a result screwing over the shareholder). not 2 hours ago.... » consumerist.com/2010/07/college-···ill.html sprint doesnt have service in mexico, those are ROAMING charges which is something completely different than what i'm talking about.
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|  BF69Premium
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Camden, TN | said by Romney2012:We will continue to monitor the situation, of course, and look at opportunities that will say what is the best equation for us to drive long-term shareholder value As for ALL companies that is the prime directive - as it should be. Um no. Providing customers with a good product or service at a fair price should be. Your line of reasoning is why things are fucked up. | |
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| Re: Key phrase by Verizon rep No it is not. The point is to make money (turn a profit) for it's owners (shareholders). If not then the company is a NON-PROFIT. Capitalism is the reason wireless even exists as is the i-phone, Google, PC's etc. not to serve the public good! The only entity that by definition is intended to serve the public good (and not an individual's by the way) is the government.
People don't invest in companies to help others. They donate money to charities to do that. | |
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| | want tiered pricing? run everything through LTE, no more cdma, gsm, crap.. just DATA in ONE MODULATION. Start at 3Megabit @ 29.95 unlimited & up from there.. | |
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