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Verizon Offers $20 Naked DSL
As carrier tries to slow DSL defections...
by Karl Bode 03:16PM Monday Aug 03 2009 Tipped by Bob61571 See Profile
As we mentioned last week, Verizon lost 117,000 DSL customers during the second quarter, only 25% of which upgraded to FiOS -- the rest made the jump to faster cable speeds. In order to stem the losses, Verizon keeps tinkering with promotions, last week unveiling a new bundle offer that includes free NFL Sunday Ticket (as an aside, Verizon tells us the package is free, despite rumblings to the contrary).

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User Bob61571 See Profile writes in to note that the carrier has also once again brought out the ultra-cheap DSL tiers, promising users "naked" up to 1Mbps DSL for $19.99 a month. The deal is available through online orders only, requires a one-year contract, and includes a free router. Verizon tells us the deal has no specific endpoint right now, though the free router "will be pulled back at some point." The same offer is $10 more expensive when ordered by phone.

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baineschile
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Sterling Heights, MI

Under the impression...

...that VZ didnt give a rats ass about their copper system anymore, and strictly was putting all investment capital towards their overpriced wireless services, and cherry picking fios builds.

jsz0
Premium
join:2008-01-23
Jewett City, CT

Re: Under the impression...

They don't really have to spend anything to slow their loss of copper DSL customers by offering a better price. DSL is going to end up being the new dial-up.

hambone42
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Manassas, VA
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·Comcast
said by baineschile:

...that VZ didnt give a rats ass about their copper system anymore, and strictly was putting all investment capital towards their overpriced wireless services, and cherry picking fios builds.
That's pretty much on target, at least in my experience. I'd love to have VZ DSL but I'm (just) too far from the CO, and VZ is completely uninterested in spending a dime on an RST or remote DSLAM that would serve me and my neighbors. Meanwhile, the density here is just low enough that we're on the "keeping pushing it to the right" portion of the FiOS deployment plan. So, Comcast keeps getting dollars that would otherwise be VZ's. Oh well.
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Lagz
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join:2000-09-03
The Rock
Damned if they do damned if they don't. AT&T gets continually slammed for investing in there copper from folks saying that its a waste and they should just deploy fiber. VZ gets slammed for deploying fiber. HAHA. Go figure!!
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Bobcat79
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said by baineschile:

Under the impression that VZ didnt give a rats ass about their copper system anymore, and strictly was putting all investment capital towards their overpriced wireless services, and cherry picking fios builds.
You shouldn't believe everything you read.

1) My DSL works flawlessly, and is $156 cheaper per year than Optimum Online's overpriced cable service.

2) Fios is available in the $300k condos down the road from me, but not in our $600k townhouses. So what was that about cherry-picking?

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ddg4005
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Bronx, NY

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Re: Under the impression...

said by Bobcat79:

said by baineschile:

Under the impression that VZ didnt give a rats ass about their copper system anymore, and strictly was putting all investment capital towards their overpriced wireless services, and cherry picking fios builds.
You shouldn't believe everything you read.

1) My DSL works flawlessly, and is $156 cheaper per year than Optimum Online's overpriced cable service.

2) Fios is available in the $300k condos down the road from me, but not in our $600k townhouses. So what was that about cherry-picking?

Thank you! I'm glad someone else realizes Verizon is not cherry-picking its Fios deployments. Here in NYC there are middle-class and low-income neighborhoods that have the service and high-income areas that don't. Cherry-picking is a term that's thrown around too loosely.
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bn1221

join:2009-04-29
Cortland, NY

Re: Under the impression...

Cherry-picking is term that's thrown around too loosely

I think they cherry pick the area cheapest to deploy (MDUs and areas close to a slick, CO or RT).

I have a CO 600 feet away and no FIOS. In a town of 35K....
iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Austin, TX
kudos:2

Pretty sure they've had this for a bit

I've looked on their website every so often to check on FiOS pricing. Every time I've looked I've seen a $20-ish dry-line DSL option on their lowest tier.
ISurfTooMuch

join:2007-04-23
Tuscaloosa, AL

Good

See, now that's what I'm talking about. This is a decent speed at a good price point. Some will want more speed, but this will do nicely for those who just need basic service.

My only question is how spotty DSL coverage is. This deal isn't so great if you can't get it.
iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Austin, TX
kudos:2
Reviews:
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·Comcast

Re: Good

For example, here Verizon doesn't have a DSLAM in the CO, and most places couldn't get DSL even if they did.

That said, by line length to my knowledge I'd be able to get 1024/384 DSL here, provided there are no bridged taps, etc. in the way (pretty sure there are). Would be lovely to be off of a wireless service with half the speed and twice the price.

Even in town I'm sure some people would switch from cable to DSL for internet if they could get this promo. $1999 is the same price as TWC charges for 768/128, so this would be a nice little bump for people who just need *some sort of broadband*.

As for DSL being the new dialup, the sitance limitations etc. hae some parallels (line quality on dialp affects connection speed). Same thing with price in some areas; $20/month is what people used to pay for dialup. However in many places cable gets halfway decent speeds where DSL isn't available. Since cable infrastructure is newer, it's a whole lot rarer that you have cable plant that won't support HSI than copper pairs that can't do dSL...
patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
kudos:1

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Re: Good

said by iansltx:

$1999 is the same price as TWC charges for 768/128, so this would be a nice little bump for people who just need *some sort of broadband*.
You wish telecom shill
iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Austin, TX
kudos:2

Re: Good

The typo monster strikes again!!!1!
33358088
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join:2008-09-23
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think htis way about 1 meg -19.99

100megabit would be 1999.00
10 megabit would be 199.00
iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Austin, TX
kudos:2

Re: think htis way about 1 meg -19.99

How about this:

$14.99 to provide service
$5 per Mbit

So 3 Mbit would be $30, 7 Mbit would be $50, 10 Mbit would be $65, etc...

N3OGH
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Philly burbs
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And how much would that 100MB be if someone was still dropping $20/month on dial up?

Not even considering the cost to maintain the phone line...
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rob316

join:2005-10-17
Carteret, NJ

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Switch to Comcast from Verizon

I just left Verizon DSL for Comcast CDV and Blast. Got a great deal for the two. I could not justify paying $37.99 a month for 5mg dsl. With Comcast I am on Blast tier and get 16 down 2 (Without Powerboost which brings those numbers higher) for 35 bucks a month and thats including the EMTA rental fee.
axus

join:2001-06-18
Washington, DC

Re: Switch to Comcast from Verizon

That's pretty good, for me Comcast is still like $50 a month for high speed. If I could get FIOS I would, but I can't so I'm on Verizon DSL. If I really wanted faster speed I'd go Comcast, Verizon DSL is the better deal for me otherwise.

Voyager2K2

join:2001-10-04
Wayne, PA
I am sitting here in the Philly Burbs on FIOS, so you know the story.
However my customers in Philly seem to be leaving VZ DSL in droves. I know Comcast is shoring up the borders awaiting the arrival of FIOS. Our two business class Comcast lines price was cut in half a couple of months ago. Our customers tell me that Comcast is WAY easier to deal with than VZ.
I am not going to judge either provider, just the facts from consumers.
massysett

join:2006-01-04
Silver Spring, MD

Faster speeds

I wonder if the users jumped to cable because it has higher speeds? Maybe they jumped to cable because it combines phone, TV, and internet into one bill.

45071419

join:2006-07-30

It's not $19.99

It's not $19.99. It's $19.99 + whatever BS taxes and fees they tack on.
Network Guy
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New York
kudos:2

Re: It's not $19.99

I have Verizon DSL dry-loop service. It is indeed $39.99 per month for 7/768 service. No taxes.

aaronwt
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join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA
said by 45071419:

It's not $19.99. It's $19.99 + whatever BS taxes and fees they tack on.
Typically Internet service is not taxed.
hottboiinnc
ME

join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH

Re: It's not $19.99

it depends on who your ISP is. If you have DSLX yes they tax you. If you use anyone else for the most part no taxes.

DSLX claims they're are taxes on the services and the ILECs and other ISPs eat them but digging further you will find DSLX is full of shit.
mcd

join:2007-05-19

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said by 45071419:

It's not $19.99. It's $19.99 + whatever BS taxes and fees they tack on.
They don't tack on a cent.

jtudor
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Morganton, NC

Re: It's not $19.99

said by mcd:

said by 45071419:

It's not $19.99. It's $19.99 + whatever BS taxes and fees they tack on.
They don't tack on a cent.
If that's true, then they are the only telco that gives you the actual advertised price and does not tack on extra fees etc.
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mcd

join:2007-05-19

Re: It's not $19.99

said by jtudor:

said by mcd:

said by 45071419:

It's not $19.99. It's $19.99 + whatever BS taxes and fees they tack on.
They don't tack on a cent.
If that's true, then they are the only telco that gives you the actual advertised price and does not tack on extra fees etc.
Well believe it, my bill for 3MB/768KB service for 2 years so far has been a consistent flat rate of 27.99/month (Price For Life) NO TAXES OR FEES ADDED!
hottboiinnc
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Cleveland, OH
ATT does not charge taxes on Dryline. Its only on POTS.
Bobcat79
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said by 45071419:

It's not $19.99. It's $19.99 + whatever BS taxes and fees they tack on.
No taxes or fees with my Verizon DSL.

45071419

join:2006-07-30

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Re: It's not $19.99

said by Bobcat79:

said by 45071419:

It's not $19.99. It's $19.99 + whatever BS taxes and fees they tack on.
No taxes or fees with my Verizon DSL.
Hmm, when I had VZ DSL I had about $4 in fees and taxes. That's because I had a telephone line with them as well?
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tmc8080

join:2004-04-24
Brooklyn, NY
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1mbit?!? Really, now..

You could suck in more than 1mbit over some open linksys router within 300 feet of your home.. and Verizon thinks they can hock that for $20 a month? Who are the viable customer base for that? Oh yeah, just sold to Fairpoint and minority carriers at or near bankruptcy. If your going to sell DSL you might as well up it to 3-7.x mbit for entry level (ie, the MAX for your copper run).

Ha! Good Luck!

a333
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join:2007-06-12
Rego Park, NY
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·Cingular Wireless

Re: 1mbit?!? Really, now..

Suck in 1 Mbit over an open linksys? And what? Transmit my private data over some insecure and unencrypted WiFi connection, so that some wardriving bozo can use Kismet and Aircrack on it? No thanks. Also, if $20 = a real IP address + a CONSISTENT connection + respectable upload speed + low pings (yay for FastPath!) without the need for a shitty phone line, I'll be more than willing to cough up the dough. By the way, this isn't meant for heavy users (although I personally am on it and it more than sufficiently fulfills the requirements for hosting a small-scale FTP/SVN/SSH server).... it's meant for people looking to save money in a tight economy. Translation: it's not meant to be the PRIMARY connection for the types who browse BBR on a regular basis.

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patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
kudos:1

Re: 1mbit?!? Really, now..

said by a333:

Suck in 1 Mbit over an open linksys? And what? Transmit my private data over some insecure and unencrypted WiFi connection, so that some wardriving bozo can use Kismet and Aircrack on it? No thanks.
VPN and PKI and your set.

a333
A hot cup of integrals please

join:2007-06-12
Rego Park, NY

Re: 1mbit?!? Really, now..

Good point, but you still don't get a real IP address...... and you definitely can't run a server.

a333

Plattsburgh

@charter.com

Switched

I switched from Verizon DSL a year and a half ago because I could only get 1.5meg. Charter was offering 3meg. Now I get 20meg with Charter and Verizon is still only offering 1.5meg. If they want to keep customers they need to keep upgrading it's as simple as that.

NJBoricua75
Born And Raised

join:2000-09-13
Brooklyn, NY

Not too shabby

I could see someone getting $20 naked DSL from Verizon and a magicjack for their phone service.
jfpatrick

join:2002-03-15
Leominster, MA

Verizon vs Comcast

I have the 3mb Verizon DSl package for $29.95 per month. They do offer FIOS, but it's a "bundled" phone/fios plan and it's around $79 per month. Their web site shows a $44.95 fios internet plan, but when ordering, it jumps to the bundled plan for $79...

Comcast does offer 3/15 service for $42.95 per month. Considering
Verizon's weekly ads in the mail, and pushy door-to-door sales people with major attitudes, I'm considering Comcast in the near future.
penberth

join:2009-07-09
North Tonawanda, NY

Switched to Roadrunner

I just switched from 3mb DSL to Roadrunner. RR is quoted as 10mb/2mb, but I have been consistently seeing much faster speeds. I have had the 3mb DSL for years, but again, there has been no speed increase. I called, and cannot get 7mb DSL....so time to switch out to cable.

Bryan