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Verizon Offers Free Wi-Fi To Broadband Customers (Again)
It's only a marketing stunt if the other guy does it...
by Karl Bode 05:16PM Monday Jul 27 2009
Verizon competitor Cablevision recently announced they'd be offering free Wi-Fi to all of their customers in the New York City tri-state area. Verizon responded swiftly to Cablevision's offer, calling it it a "marketing stunt." So it's interesting to see Verizon today announce they're going to...offer their broadband customers free Wi-Fi. Verizon's deal is with Boingo, who most notably provides Wi-Fi to Barnes And Noble Bookstores and Starbucks.

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According to Verizon, new FiOS customers at 25/15 Mbps or faster -- or new DSL customers at 3Mbps or faster -- can connect to the Verizon Wi-Fi hotspots at no charge. The new Wi-Fi service is also available free of charge for existing FiOS Internet customers with up to 20 Mbps service and existing DSL customers who have either an up-to-3 Mbps or up-to- 7.1 Mbps package.

Yes, Verizon confirms to us this means there will be a few customers who don't get to play along, including entry level 1Mbps/384kbps DSL customers, and customers with 10Mbps or 15Mbps FiOS connections. Verizon offers a directory for the 13,850 Boingo hotspots you'll get access to after you log in via the Verizon portal to download a wireless access application (sorry kids, Windows Vista and XP only).

Right now, the deal doesn't extend to Verizon Wireless customers. Given the fact that Boingo resells AT&T's Wi-Fi service, you have to wonder if it ever will. It's unlikely that AT&T really wants a wireless competitor offering the same perk it offers its own wireless phone customers.

If you recall, Verizon used to offer free Wi-Fi in Manhattan, but scrapped the project back in 2005. At the time, Verizon seemed surprised at how the free Wi-Fi access helped lower their customer defection rate -- and at one point planned to install 1,000 or more access points around Manhattan. However, the trial was scrapped, and Verizon had been publicly skeptical about the benefits of free Wi-Fi -- until today.

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wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace

join:2004-08-07
New York, NY

I remember that

Verizon's first deployment was fairly robust, with almost everyone public telephone booth having an 802.11b AP built in.

wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace

join:2004-08-07
New York, NY

Re: I remember that

I should point out that I only tested this in Manhattan. I dont know how good the coverage was in the other parts of the city.

Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02
kudos:39

Re: I remember that

From what I remember it only was Manhattan. I remember they planned for 1,000 hotspots but only deployed something like 400, about 50% of which did the majority of the heavy lifting.

HarleyYac
Lee
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Allendale, NJ
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Re: I remember that

Hi,
Downloaded the app on my older laptop but there are no AP's in my area only one town over.
I checked CV's site and they seem to have it at all if not most NJT Train stations.
My son tells me he can get a CV signal on the boardwalk in NJ. It seems you cannot wit VZ yet. It's a start. FIOS 1 has been around a month and they are slowly but surely getting there act together.
Lee

Lee
jimboe

join:2000-08-14
New York
said by Karl Bode:

From what I remember it only was Manhattan..
There were a few hotspots in Brooklyn, notably one on Joralemon St in downtown bk and one on 86th st in bensonhoist.
patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
kudos:1

att

I'm guessing the payphone Wifi APs will never come back :-(

Verizon should convert all the payphones in the subway to loop powered cellular base stations.

Whats funny is, Boingo roams on ATT hotspots. So Verizon customers now have ATT Wifi, ATT DSL style.

see »AT&T Offers Free Wi-Fi To More DSL Customers

wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace

join:2004-08-07
New York, NY

Re: att

said by patcat88:

I'm guessing the payphone Wifi APs will never come back :-(

Doesnt look like it. The most unfortunate part was that those AP's 'felt' like they were very high powered. I recall connecting to some of them from a few blocks away (straight shot of course). Right around the time they stopped using them they also changed the public phone booths a little, so I hoped to find one (AP) for sale. Unfortunately none ever popped up on Craigslist, so I never got my souvenir.
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Phil
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XP and Vista only!

Verizon offers a directory for the 13,850 Boingo hotspots you'll get access to after you log in via the Verizon portal to download a wireless access application.

As is being discussed in the Verizon forum here the application only runs on XP and Vista. This is quite unfortunate.

Ahpuch

@verizon.net

Re: XP and Vista only!

It asked me to upgrade from Windows 7 when I tried to register.

FFH5
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Tavistock NJ
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said by Phil:

Verizon offers a directory for the 13,850 Boingo hotspots you'll get access to after you log in via the Verizon portal to download a wireless access application.

As is being discussed in the Verizon forum here the application only runs on XP and Vista. This is quite unfortunate.
And not for smartphones and not for a lot of their customers. It is a pretty shabby free offering.
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mrkevin
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Aurora, ME

These are the peeon's

Verizon confirms to us this means there will be a few customers who don't get to play along, including entry level 1Mbps/384kbps DSL customers, and customers with 10Mbps or 15Mbps FiOS connections
What! I guess it should say "Verizon offers Free Wi-Fi to 'some' broadband customers"

what a scam, why not offer it to all or none....really
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iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Austin, TX
kudos:2
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Re: These are the peeon's

AT&T used to not offer free WiFi on their lowest-speed DSL offering.

Raeally though, it's a higher-tier perk. You'd normally pay $10 or so per month to Boingo for the same access, so all told it's a good deal and I really don't see why anyone has their panties in a wad about not getting $10 WiFi included with their $20 DSL connection.

Though it *does* seem a little odd that 10/2 and 15/5 FiOS customers wouldn't get WiFi when 3 Mbps DSL customers (which pay a good bit less per month) do.

winsyrstrife
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Brooklyn, NY

1 recommendation

Application?

"Verizon offers a directory for the 13,850 Boingo hotspots you'll get access to after you log in via the Verizon portal to download a wireless access application."
Everytime I see something about downloading an application to access the Internet, I shudder inside...
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bn1221

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Re: Application?

"Verizon offers a directory for the 13,850 Boingo hotspots you'll get access to after you log in via the Verizon portal to download a wireless access application."

And the way to get this mysterious app is to log on to Verizon.net and download it.. Surprise..its not there!

SYNACK
Just Firewall It
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join:2001-03-05
Venice, CA

US only?

While Boingo is worldwide, the verizon hotspot search tool does not have an entry for country, just US states. Is it possible that this won't work overseas?

Karl Bode
News Guy
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Re: US only?

I believe it's just U.S. I'll ask them...

Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02
kudos:39

Re: US only?

Yes, they tell me only the U.S., Including Puerto Rico & Guam.

SYNACK
Just Firewall It
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Venice, CA

Re: US only?

Yes, digging deeper, only the boingo mobile is international for the same price. The global laptop plan is $59, significantly more than the US version and we seem to basically get the laptop us plan here.

It sure would be nice to be able to also use this internationally on my G1. I guess it won't work....

Good to know about Puerto Rico. I'll be there next spring.

mastermind278
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Clementon, NJ

Only for Residential Customers

The service does not work for Business Customers.
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C0deZer0
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Tempe, AZ

Re: Only for Residential Customers

said by mastermind278:

The service does not work for Business Customers.
Well, duh. They expect Business customers to supply their workers with Verizon wireless broadband cards/etc. and pay the overpriced data rates on that, too.

You really thought you'd get off that easy?
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bn1221

join:2009-04-29
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Re: Only for Residential Customers

Well, duh. They expect Business customers to supply their workers with Verizon wireless broadband cards/etc. and pay the overpriced data rates on that, too.

You really thought you'd get off that easy?

++++

Thats kinda a joke since I pay more for a DSL line that I would for 20/20 FiOS....

C0deZer0
Oc'D To Rhythm And Police
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Tempe, AZ

Re: Only for Residential Customers

No, that's no joke. That's what expense accounts are for.
bn1221

join:2009-04-29
Cortland, NY

Re: Only for Residential Customers

Well, neither joke is funny. They want me to keep the EVDO cards...which are nice, but in Chicago airport the wifi is more robust than the EVDO network.

Sodders....

FiosCustomer

@verizon.net

15/5 Customer here

Well sucks for me =/.
smilepak

join:2002-02-27
Chino, CA

:(

Man I don't qualify. I have the original Triple Freedom 10MB/2MB
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iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Austin, TX
kudos:2

Re: :(

If you really want Boingo (it's not a big deal, really...I've rarely been in a place that has Boingo access) you can get it for $10 per month. Betcha you're saving more with your current package than that.
majortom1029

join:2006-10-19
Lindenhurst, NY
kudos:1

wow

Hmm cablevisions wifi workks with macs and linux as well. Cablevisions you dont have to install software you just sign in via the web page.

Also all cablevision customers get to use it.

Obviously verzion saw cablevisions area wide wifi as a huge problem.

The thing is though cablevision has other plans for their wifi .

This shows verizon is scared of cablevision.

Morgan1970
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Re: wow

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Yeah, that leaves me out of the game. My Nokia N810 wi-fi internet tablet runs on a Linux based OS. So, I'm SOL. If it wern't for the application being needed to connect, I would have been set. I got as far as creating an account, but when it went to download the app, it said sorry this application will only run on Windows XP and Vista. Not everybody wants to lug around a 3-4 lb. netbook/laptop. Verizon wanted to make sure that they didn't threaten their very profitable wireless cash cow. Would had been nice though if this would had been supported for hand held devices. Most of the places that I have been in the mid-atlantic region had poor Boingo/AT&T coverage anyway, so most people will not be able to take advantage of this, unless they live in a large metropolitan area.
thederf

join:2007-05-20
Lake Ariel, PA

Re: wow

I saw the wifi option when I logged into my netservices page today. And yet existing customers can signu for the free wifi.
bn1221

join:2009-04-29
Cortland, NY
Reviews:
·TowerStream

Good Luck

I pay $350 a month for 2 768/7.1 business DSL lines

The business support has not freaking clue how to help me. 4 sales people keep pushing me around and telling me I need FIOS. My offices ate 7000 feet from the CO and they haven't installed the FIOS equipment yet.

Its very unnerving that Verizon has no effing clue what they are doing.

trooper7777

@verizon.net

verizon wifi only windows laptops need apply

The fine print at Verizon: "Verizon Wi-Fi is not available for PDAs, phones, desktop PCs or Macs." Or... Windows laptops only. What Crap.
jimmytjams
Premium
join:2006-12-23
Buffalo, NY

Search errors

The verizon Wi-Fi Access HotSpot Directory has search errors

1. example search State New York city Manhattan All types
results 28 locations 27 are STARBUCKS no bookstores listed

2. example search State New York city New York All types
results 220 locations
If you refine by Bookstore You see quite a few Barnes & Noble (Bookstore) but they appeared like only Manhattan ones but I am not sure didn't check them.
by (Retail Business) only 1 Barnes & Noble
by (Other Public Areas) you get 29 locations with 23 of them
are Public Telephones in Manhattan and other boroughs

I just checked this 1 of 23 listed because it didn't seam right. I didn't really take time to look at the others
Public Telephone - 650 3rd Avenue (Other Public Areas)
650 3rd Avenue
New York,New York 11232

so when I clicked map it the results were
650 3rd Ave
Brooklyn, NY 11232
Did you mean:
650 3rd St, Brooklyn, Kings, NY 11215
650 E 3rd St, Brooklyn, Kings, NY 11218

3. example search State All City New York same results as 2.

I guess that Verizon doesn't give priority to correcting errors in this search. You can only search by full zip code. I love searches like this site has for comparing speed test you can increase your zip code search area by leaving out digits starting from right to left

I do love Verizon FiOS I have 20/20 (all speeds shown are Mbits/s) $69.95(no package) which is now being offered as 25/15. I will keep 20/20 and hope they don't force a change to 25/15.

My main activity is P2P bit torrent Many bit torrent users forget or are not aware that a 10 /10 can be better than 10/1 10/2 20/5 etc if sharing fast, fairly and quanity is important to them.

I belong to a few private sites that have ratio requirements. My fast upload makes it easier and faster to get and share as much as possible. I don't get evening slowdowns like cable users "might' get. Plus the hell with Cable, FiOS, Vontage and any other $19.95 and up phone service. I use Skype About $5 a month if you get the subscription and a local number unlimited US to US & Canada calls (almost unlimited 10,000 minute cap) I mainly use my Verizon Cell phone $39.95+ (many family & friends use them) 450 minutes but with peak calls to non verizon $0.45 per minute over 450 Skype comes in handy if I may go over.

Jimmy


mustang03282

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Bridgeton, NJ

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verizon wifi more locations ????

are they planning to ad more locations It sems the only locations near me are hotels. Every mc donalds around me had wifi. When i drive up to them my laptop says verizon wifi is avalable but then when i try to log on it says we are sorry but verizon wifi isnt avlable at this location. Its bad enough we have to install there priparty software but I cant seem to even find a location to connect to to sit down and check it out and run a nmap to see wtf there software is doing