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join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ | Deals are nice but Availability is the deal killer for many. | |
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cdru
Go Colts
Premium,MVM
join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
| Re: Deals are nice but said by Eat Me  :Availability is the deal killer for many. You sure are a Negative Nancy, aren't you. Not everyone is going to qualify for every promotion. However I wouldn't exactly say that a deal that passes 9.2 million homes a limited availability deal breaker. Other promos have made DSLR news that covered far fewer homes. | |
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Eat Me
join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ | Re: Deals are nice but Deal breaker for me.
No FiOS where I live. | |
| | | | Ahrenl
join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA | Re: Deals are nice but And unemployment is at 0%.. because I have a job. What is everyone complaining about? (eye roll) | |
| | njcellfreak
join:2006-12-28
Union City, NJ
| said by Eat Me :Availability is the deal killer for many. Exactly. Verizon needs to be told, "It's about availability, stupid!" If they want more subs, they need to get off their asses and start deploying more areas.
There are areas right now in NYC that probably won't see Fios for decades and by the time if does become available and if, no one will care. | |
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R4M0N
Brazilian Soccer Ownz Joo
join:2000-10-04
Glen Allen, VA | I wish they had a deal For those who don't need or want TV and phone. I know... Asking too much... | |
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jmn1207
Premium
join:2000-07-19
Reston, VA
 ·Verizon FIOS
| Re: I wish they had a deal FiOS passes plenty of homes with potential customers that have not taken the plunge. Surely just about any person that is looking for internet only solutions from Verizon, and has the available service, has already signed up. This is an attempt to grab as many customers as possible that are looking for a cheap solution that meets all their needs.
With no caps and rock solid stability, if you were to opt for a standalone FiOS internet service, either the 20/5 or 20/20 (soon to be 25/25 for both) are already offered at a great price and allow outstanding potential for any alternative video and VoIP solutions. | |
| | | quintin3265
join:2008-06-07
State College, PA
 ·Comcast
·Verizon FIOS
| Re: I wish they had a deal Believe it or not, ping times with FiOS were inferior to Comcast for me. The only reason I got rid of Comcast was because they would not tell me what their caps were, and I considered it unethical.
FiOS, I think, is overrated. The customer service is excellent, which is why I'll keep using it. Though the bandwidth is equivalent to Comcast, they do not have a PowerBoost system and the ping times are worse than Comcast's.
If I hadn't been turned away by Comcast and locked in a deal with Verizon, I might have actually switched back. | |
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jmn1207
Premium
join:2000-07-19
Reston, VA
·Verizon FIOS
1 edit | Re: I wish they had a deal I currently pay $89.95 for 50/20 FiOS service with Verizon. Latency is largely dependent on the servers you connect to most often. For me, the latency is improved significantly in general testing done within the US and abroad. I, especially, see better performance to Europe and Asia, by a considerable margin.
The other day I sent nearly 20GB of data to a location in Holland that would have taken me all day to do with my Comcast connection. For me, the Comcast PowerBoost only works with the first 10MB's of uploaded data, according to their current information. That just won't cut it, and I won't think of going back until they offer a substantial increase in the upload performance, and for a comparable price.
For those people primarily interested in downloading, especially files under 40MB's, perhaps Comcast is the better option? Although, rumor has it that FiOS will be upgrading 20/5 service to 25/25 by late June and into July of this year. At the same price that Comcast offers Blast! in my region, unless the pings are consistently 25% slower to every server visited, I'd seriously consider sticking with FiOS, at least until DOCSIS 4.0 (or whatever the next major overhaul is named) is ready to be delivered.
I do keep a close eye on what Comcast is doing in my area. I'm certainly not committed to Verizon and I would pull that plug if something more substantial was offered from the cable company. I only moved from Comcast once FiOS started offering a ton of new HD channels this past November. To be honest, it will take a lot from Comcast to get me to come back, as I am very happy with the TV and internet service provided from Verizon...so far.
Edit: Comcast isn't really equivalent to FiOS at the same price except for speed tests and relatively small files. Blast! is equal in price to FiOS 20/5 service. Blast! is only 16/2 after the first 20MB's down and 10MB's up. Try timing a 100MB file or larger and you can really see the difference, especially uploading. I went through these exact types of testing 6 months ago when I made the jump from Comcast to Verizon. Only, back then, the limits were 40MB's for PowerBoost. These limits have since been lowered in my region.
Here was a test that I performed a few months ago. »Re: [ fiber tech] Does Verizon Fios cap upload | |
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mystryfiostk
join:2008-07-17
00000
| said by quintin3265 :FiOS, I think, is overrated. The customer service is excellent, which is why I'll keep using it. Though the bandwidth is equivalent to Comcast, they do not have a PowerBoost system and the ping times are worse than Comcast's. The same power boost that uncaps your modem for the first 10MB of a download to give you the flimsy result that you're getting more speed when you run a 5 second speedtest?
That powerboost? Works great at 9 am tuesday morning, btw - the few times their nodes aren't oversaturated.
I get my 20/5 24/7.
biased am i? slightly. but i pay the same prices dollar as the general public. | |
| psbny
join:2002-01-06
Peekskill, NY | less for more? wasn't the previous promotion $95/ month for 20/5 internet, FiOS HD Extreme TV, and Freedom essentials unlimited calling? | |
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NY Tel
Premium
join:2004-04-09
Smithtown, NY
 ·VOIPo
| Re: less for more? said by psbny :wasn't the previous promotion $95/ month for 20/5 internet, FiOS HD Extreme TV, and Freedom essentials unlimited calling? I believe it was 94.99 a month for the previous promo but I could be wrong. | |
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Thymadman
Mine Mine
join:2002-08-07
Brooklyn, NY | Yep, this new promo is offering much less. You now have to go for the $105 package to get the 20/5 speeds. Less for more this time around
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If you can buy it, it's old! | |
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booooooooooooo
@verizon.net | Incentives I know a good Incentive, ADD MORE HD!!!!!!!! | |
| | Ahrenl
join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA | Re: Incentives There are over 100 HD channels.. who needs more than a 100 channels total? The Fios TV package is outstanding.. I don't even really like TV. | |
| fiberguy
My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20
| Goes to show that even PR people can't get it right.. "The press release throws in a slight nod to recent events, noting that "unlike some cable providers, Verizon doesn't penalize subscribers for using all the speed they need." "
Cable doesn't penalize anyone for using all the "speed" they need.. it's transfer that is under fire.. speed has nothing to do with it... stupid suits. But, give them time, and Verizon will certainly be on the same bandwagon as the rest. Seems to me VZ already was.. wasn't the CEO right there along the side of SBC crying for a third rail billing scheme which would penalize providers for not paying more for clear passage of their data?
While I'll give credit to Verizon for running fiber - it's a good thing they are.. two things: 1) its showing that it's not about the connection itself, rather the service you give, the price and the value that people perceive. (And in their case, VZ customers haven't forgotten how badly they treated their phone customers for decades) 2) They package up promos the same way everyone else does and tries to polish theirs to look like they're doing something that others don't/won't...
The PR game is getting old on all sides. I, for one, am old enough (but still in my 30's) to remember the absolute raping of Americans on phone rates for years.. nothing has changed in my mind about the bells. | |
| | jazzlady
join:2005-08-04
Bartonsville, PA
·ProLog
| Re: Goes to show that even PR people can't get it right.. said by fiberguy :I, for one, am old enough (but still in my 30's) to remember the absolute raping of Americans on phone rates for years.. nothing has changed in my mind about the bells. What, like customers aren't *still* being raped every month on cell phone rates?
We're nickled and dimed to death, but my favorites are those text message rates- 20 cents a pop to send OR receive a text message.
I'm with Verizon. It's just my husband and I, we don't use text messaging so our plan doesn't cover it.
I've turned it off 3 times. They've turned it back on 3 times. And I don't find out about it until I wind up getting a whole bunch of disgusting porn related spam texts, and there it is on the bill at the end of the month.
Twenty cents to *receive* a text you didn't ask for. What a scam. | |
| | | fiberguy
My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20 | Re: Goes to show that even PR people can't get it right.. .. and to add insult to injury, speaking of the cell texting issue, I keep my phone on 24/7 for certain reasons, and it sucked getting porn spam messages at 4am waking me up. | |
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FloridaBoy
@verizon.com
| Fiberguy,
I hace a question for you if you dont mind. **Looking at Verizon's 97.5 Billion in revenue and 6.5 billion in profit for last year, I can see Verizon made about 6.6 cents for every dollar they made. Is 6.6 percent profit too much?? What do you consider the proper percentage of profit for them to make??
The reason I ask is I see corporate greed, raping customers and the like alot when I am lurking on this board.
**=I know you need to look deeper into their books. There might be some surprises but their revenue and profit stand. | |
| | | fiberguy
My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20
| Re: Goes to show that even PR people can't get it right.. I don't have a straight answer to give you. But, remember something about your numbers. "Profit" is everything left over after all expenses are paid. This includes salaries. Companies, especially corporations, have a responsibility to run their business efficiently. Is Verizon squandering money and calling it an expense? People got all up in arms about Comcast buying a multi-million dollar video wall. (Which sounds bad on the surface until people realize that they didn't pay for much of it) but people look at their rising cable bills and consider several dollars to go to that TV. Does the customer believe they could stand to keep some of that money in their own pockets? Also think about the 80 million dollar bonuses going to a CEO, and 450 million dollar golden parachutes, etc.
Keep that in mind when you figure profit.  | |
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cdru
Go Colts
Premium,MVM
join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
| said by fiberguy :"The press release throws in a slight nod to recent events, noting that "unlike some cable providers, Verizon doesn't penalize subscribers for using all the speed they need." " Cable doesn't penalize anyone for using all the "speed" they need.. it's transfer that is under fire.. speed has nothing to do with it... stupid suits. For many here, we understand the difference between download speed and bandwidth consumption. The public in general though is not nearly as technically informed as the average visitor here and associates the two as being the same (or at least similar enough). | |
| | | fiberguy
My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20
| Re: Goes to show that even PR people can't get it right.. You're 100% correct, however, there are two things I have issue with, and don't believe in:
1) "Say what you mean and mean what you say." I get tired of people patronizing the public. Cable and some phone providers are talking about consumption in caps as far as how much you can download. People won't learn unless you teach them. Therefore, I believe they shouldn't take the lame way out and say "speed" becuase I, personally, and anyone that does know thinks that Verizon is being stupid by saying so. Just lie Verizon had an issue understanding the difference between a bit and a byte. Should we have assumed then? Glad we didn't...
2) I won't give a pass to a company that DOES understand the technical terms and wants a lazy way out as a front. (That's how I see this) How do we know they know what they are talking about? I never assume.. As with any competent judge in a court of law, if this were to go to trial, for what ever reason, just say it did, and Verizon tried to use that excuse, the judge would most likely say "You're the expert and it's up to you to explain to your customer what you are saying properly".. in business, my company has been told that a couple times.. "you're the expert, not the customer"... | |
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cdru
Go Colts
Premium,MVM
join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
2 edits | Re: buyverizon promo nevermind | |
| rtfm8
join:2005-07-09
Washington, DC
 ·Verizon Online DSL
·Atlantech Online, ..
·AT&T DSL Service
| Their lips are moving; so guess what Verizontal is doing..?? They have "reconfigured" [sounds better than "axed", now doesn't it...?] their offerings, not "extend"ed per Subject line...
What that really means:
Until the 20th; if you ordered basic service @$18/month; you got a $75 rebate. That has vanished. Further, you now are required to commit to two full years, not one. Gotcha!
By the way, that "lifetime" rate guarantee? -- it's got a major gotcha. It only applies as long as they want it to.... | |
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