Verizon Says LTE Plans On Schedule 'Exactly where they expected to be' at this time... "We can build all the bells and whistles and make lots of bold claims, but none of it will matter if the network - and all of the underlying infrastructure that supports the network - isn't fundamentally reliable," Verizon CTO Tony Melone today told PCIA Wireless Infrastructure show attendees in Nashville. Melone says the company is "exactly where it expected to be at this time" with LTE deployments, repeating the company's promise that LTE will be launched in 25-30 markets next year, and everywhere by the end of 2013 (they've conducted successful tests in Seattle and Boston). While Verizon's been hammered for a limited smartphone selection, a dedication to open networks and devices that's largely public relations fluff, and their high broadband data prices, at least the LTE train is right on schedule.
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| Re: and said by papapap :
and they still won't get the iphone.
who wants a iphone when you can't open multiple apps at the same time? as long as the iphone doesn't have multitask its a POS. And kiddos who fall for it and pay for the outrageous price of that phone, just watch the next iphone will have flash added to the camera and people will still pay $500 lol
HTC Touch Pro 2 > Iphone anytime.... heck even Android is better. | |
| | | | | Re: and said by glinc:said by papapap :
and they still won't get the iphone.
who wants a iphone when you can't open multiple apps at the same time? as long as the iphone doesn't have multitask its a POS. And kiddos who fall for it and pay for the outrageous price of that phone, just watch the next iphone will have flash added to the camera and people will still pay $500 lol HTC Touch Pro 2 > Iphone anytime.... heck even Android is better. Who needs to open multiple apps when they open so fast with the iPhone. I can switch between a safari page and access my email in a few seconds. Its probably faster at changing between apps than my HTC 8925 was.
HTC Touch Pro 2 > iPhone is freaking hilarious.
Have you even used an iPhone? | |
| | | | | | Re: and said by BB_Hunter:said by glinc:said by papapap :
and they still won't get the iphone.
who wants a iphone when you can't open multiple apps at the same time? as long as the iphone doesn't have multitask its a POS. And kiddos who fall for it and pay for the outrageous price of that phone, just watch the next iphone will have flash added to the camera and people will still pay $500 lol HTC Touch Pro 2 > Iphone anytime.... heck even Android is better. Who needs to open multiple apps when they open so fast with the iPhone. I can switch between a safari page and access my email in a few seconds. Its probably faster at changing between apps than my HTC 8925 was. HTC Touch Pro 2 > iPhone is freaking hilarious. Have you even used an iPhone? I have an iphone and it is nice, but it multitasking would be a nice feature for sure. It's really not that fast opening apps... Yes, I have the 2G and the 3GS. The 3GS is better, but it's not the end-all, be-all... Also, the device could be a little more open. I wish I could use it for more things without jailbreaking it and fighting with upgrades. | |
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| said by glinc:said by papapap :
and they still won't get the iphone.
who wants a iphone when you can't open multiple apps at the same time? as long as the iphone doesn't have multitask its a POS. And kiddos who fall for it and pay for the outrageous price of that phone, just watch the next iphone will have flash added to the camera and people will still pay $500 lol HTC Touch Pro 2 > Iphone anytime.... heck even Android is better. Windows mobile phones are garbage, you could have at least used a better comparison.
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| | | | | | Re: and The TP2 does not "fail hard". I have one. I'm pleasantly surprised by how well it works. The HTC overlay is slick and intuitive. Are there problems with it? Of course, just like with any phone, including the iPhone. | |
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Williamsport, PA | said by glinc:who wants a iphone when you can't open multiple apps at the same time? as long as the iphone doesn't have multitask its a POS. And kiddos who fall for it and pay for the outrageous price of that phone, just watch the next iphone will have flash added to the camera and people will still pay $500 lol HTC Touch Pro 2 > Iphone anytime.... heck even Android is better. If you think the iPhone is a POS, you have obviously never used one.
Haters like you are just as bad as the fanboys.
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| Re: and said by RRedline:said by glinc:who wants a iphone when you can't open multiple apps at the same time? as long as the iphone doesn't have multitask its a POS. And kiddos who fall for it and pay for the outrageous price of that phone, just watch the next iphone will have flash added to the camera and people will still pay $500 lol HTC Touch Pro 2 > Iphone anytime.... heck even Android is better. If you think the iPhone is a POS, you have obviously never used one. Haters like you are just as bad as the fanboys. Actually, some of us have used iPhones and continue to conclude they're crap. I've tried iPhones in the Apple store, and in the Rogers store, several times. I've also used friend's iPhones and iPod Touchs. I know exactly how to use one and I just don't like it.
Apple has crippled all the potential that the hardware has. Sure, you can jailbreak, but I prefer to not have to fight my phone manufacturer. Always wondering if an update will disabled all my favourite apps.
Background apps are a very important feature for me. Push notifications are great, but they don't replace background apps, they're complimentary technologies. Push notifications don't let you write apps with features like Google Latitude or SmrtGuard.
Also, typing on a flat screen just isn't a substitute for a real keyboard. I'm no fan of the HTC Touch Pro which was mentioned above, but the keyboard on the BlackBerry Bold is very nice. I don't care what you may claim about being just as fast if you trust the error correction, I've raced several friends who are fast iPhone typers and have claimed this, won by a huge margin every time. Also, you can't touch type with a virtual keyboard. I spend hours a day typing non-stop on my BlackBerry, do more typing on it than my desktop many days. The iPhone just doesn't come even close to meeting my needs for text entry.
Sure iPhones are flashy and trendy, but most people I know with one have it full of apps like the virtual Zippo or lightsaber. They're all very cool tech demos of the accelerometer, but they're not useful in a productive sense. And that is really what I want from my phone, it needs to fill my need for mobile communication. Not just be a flashy demo.
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Williamsport, PA | Re: and said by Taylortbb:Sure iPhones are flashy and trendy, but most people I know with one have it full of apps like the virtual Zippo or lightsaber. They're all very cool tech demos of the accelerometer, but they're not useful in a productive sense. And that is really what I want from my phone, it needs to fill my need for mobile communication. Not just be a flashy demo. Where the iPhone excels is media. Having an iPod built in is awesome, and browsing and viewing photos is easily the best on any phone I've ever seen. Syncing music and photos couldn't be easier, and on top of that, IT'S MY PHONE, which I already take with me everywhere I go.
The iPhone is a revolutionary device. I don't see how anyone could argue against that.
As for the apps, ummm...I could easily list crappy apps for other phones. The fact is, there are tons of very good apps for the iPhone.
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1 edit | Re: and said by RRedline:said by Taylortbb:Sure iPhones are flashy and trendy, but most people I know with one have it full of apps like the virtual Zippo or lightsaber. They're all very cool tech demos of the accelerometer, but they're not useful in a productive sense. And that is really what I want from my phone, it needs to fill my need for mobile communication. Not just be a flashy demo. Where the iPhone excels is media. Having an iPod built in is awesome, and browsing and viewing photos is easily the best on any phone I've ever seen. Syncing music and photos couldn't be easier, and on top of that, IT'S MY PHONE, which I already take with me everywhere I go. The iPhone is a revolutionary device. I don't see how anyone could argue against that. As for the apps, ummm...I could easily list crappy apps for other phones. The fact is, there are tons of very good apps for the iPhone. The touch interface is nice for viewing photos, but otherwise I find the media features to be unremarkable. I do own an iPod, and I did use it for a long time, but my BlackBerry has replaced it. The bigger screen of the iPhone is nice, but hardly worth it when I'd rather have the keyboard.
I don't disagree that the iPhone completely changed the mobile phone business, but the device can still be crap. I'm just about convinced Apple could release the iTurd and it would revolution the toilet business, people seem to rush out to buy anything Apple. The iPhone did succeed in bringing desktop browsing to mobile devices, but that's no longer a significant advantage as every other platform has since matched this feature. The other features are largely unremarkable. The iPod brought a revolutionary interface to browsing music with the wheel. But the iPhone doesn't have that advantage, making music browsing kind of like every other phone.
And yes, there are crappy apps for other phones. Every platform has crappy apps. The problem seems to be that there aren't many /good/ apps for the iPhone. Apps like Google Voice, or Google Latitude, or SmrtGuard, or an official Windows Live Messenger client. Apps that I personally feel to be quite important.
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Williamsport, PA | Re: and said by Taylortbb:The touch interface is nice for viewing photos, but otherwise I find the media features to be unremarkable. I do own an iPod, and I did use it for a long time, but my BlackBerry has replaced it. The bigger screen of the iPhone is nice, but hardly worth it when I'd rather have the keyboard. I don't disagree that the iPhone completely changed the mobile phone business, but the device can still be crap. I'm just about convinced Apple could release the iTurd and it would revolution the toilet business, people seem to rush out to buy anything Apple. The iPhone did succeed in bringing desktop browsing to mobile devices, but that's no longer a significant advantage as every other platform has since matched this feature. The other features are largely unremarkable. The iPod brought a revolutionary interface to browsing music with the wheel. But the iPhone doesn't have that advantage, making music browsing kind of like every other phone. And yes, there are crappy apps for other phones. Every platform has crappy apps. The problem seems to be that there aren't many /good/ apps for the iPhone. Apps like Google Voice, or Google Latitude, or SmrtGuard, or an official Windows Live Messenger client. Apps that I personally feel to be quite important. Everyone else has caught up on web browsing? Really? How about RIM? Even the 3rd party browsers on BB's are pretty terrible compared to Safari on the iPhone.
If syncing/browsing media is as good on another phone, I would love to know which one. I would LOVE to ditch AT&T, but I haven't found another phone that is even in the same ballpark as the iPhone for my wants and needs.
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Valencia, CA | Do you care ? I personally don't care one way or the other for the iPhone. It has some nice features, and many missing ones.
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| |  BF69Premium
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Camden, TN | said by papapap :
and they still won't get the iphone.
What good is an iphone if at&t doens't bother putting 3G in your area? | |
| | | | | Re: and said by BF69:said by papapap :
and they still won't get the iphone.
What good is an iphone if at&t doens't bother putting 3G in your area? It works ok and is still useful on 2G. It's a bit BETTER on their 3G network, but because of the apps that Apple sanctions, it's not a great difference on the speed front. | |
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and they still won't get the iphone.
So what. Verizon is notrious for crippling their handsets anyway. What good is an iPhone with crippled wi-fi?. | |
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Is this part of the Qualcomm LTE/CDMA migration path?
If LTE is on 700mhz and is data only then they need dual mode CDMA/LTE phones with a radio that uses 800/1900 CDMA and 700mhz, correct? Or is this about data cards only?
Will LTE devices be able to fallback to EVDO if the previous is true?
Will it still have the 5GB or other limit? WiMAX does not (yet).
Will be curious to see how they work out the logistics. | |
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| Re: Q's VZ doesn't know anything yet. LTE is still in the labs with nothing really available for testing with it, yet.
If they were smart they would have deployed a technology that was and has been out of the labs for years now and that actually has CUSTOMERS using it. Instead of claiming "we have this and we'll have that" | |
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New York, NY | Re: Q's If I recall reading somewhere, it's already been successfully tested in Boston and few other states and some other company was testing technology that would allow VoIP over LTE network. | |
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Wimax? Sprint is the lone (telcom) rider on that train. It's been 2 years and it's barely off the ground. Even Clearwire recently made comments that suggest LTE isn't out of the question.
HSPA? That's a complete network change (which VZW will be doing anyhow) that will lead to LTE anyhow. | |
| | | | | | Re: Q's WiMaxx is deployed in other countries around the world and works great there. this country is just backwords. | |
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Valencia, CA | Personally... I think that they'll be using it for a while with just datacards, kind of like WiMAX. There aren't any handsets for it, and handsets wouldn't currently see much of a benefit beyond current datarates anyways (unless they're used for tethering)
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Martinsville, IN | Re: Q's I can't wait for LTE to be deployed in my area. Say bye-bye to my over-priced T1. The 700mhz should slice and dice through the forrest like butter. | |
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kudos:1 | Re: Q's Get a directional antenna. If you can't get 800 mhz today, your probably not going to get 700 mhz tomorrow. VZW will be co-locating 700 mhz equipment at its 800 mhz towers, not building out new coverage. Plus we all know LTE will have the same anti-dumb pipe caps as EVDO, and no servers allowed, so you'll probably keep your T1. | |
| | | | | | | Re: Q's said by patcat88:Get a directional antenna. If you can't get 800 mhz today, your probably not going to get 700 mhz tomorrow. VZW will be co-locating 700 mhz equipment at its 800 mhz towers, not building out new coverage. Plus we all know LTE will have the same anti-dumb pipe caps as EVDO, and no servers allowed, so you'll probably keep your T1. I agree. I switched from Vz because of this, but at&t also does this. So much for net neutrality. LOL | |
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Martinsville, IN | I have an antenna repeater kit installed on the roof of my house. We get 800mhz (1x RTT/Voice) without a problem. However, EVDO lives up at 1.9Ghz, which is the stars align just right it will work. | |
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Camden, TN | what about caps and overages? if they still insist on measly 5 GB monthly caps and $51.20 per GB overage charges who fricking cares about LTE? | |
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Hingham, MA | Re: what about caps and overages? I thought the rumor was that VZ was going to raise (though not eliminate) the cap for LTE? Though rumors are easy to make, I wouldn't really put much hope in them. | |
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Cherry Valley, IL | I would expect that Verizon and other carriers will increase the cap. Because all traffic will be data including VoIP. I would hope that you will be able to use any VoIP app on your phone/pda/blackberry.
If the carriers or carrier that do allow you to use your own VoIP app, then the possibilities are endless. For one the carrier no longer needs to be a phone company. Not to say that they won't, it's in their blood after all. So they will create their own VoIP app for each phone or approve apps for voice.
If done right on the right network the carriers stand to save lots of money only with an open data network (net neutrality). I can only imagine this will not be true with the biggest carriers (vzw) at first. I can however see this happen with smaller carriers though.
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