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Verizon Shows Off 8.5 Mbps LTE In Boston
Ahead of 25-30 market launch later this year...
by Karl Bode 09:31AM Wednesday May 12 2010
In April, Verizon decided to take LTE wireless broadband service to a Boston coffee house to show it off to those who might not be familiar with the technology. In a video just released by the company, Verizon employees highlight the technology to users who are used to clunkier and slower wireless connectivity. Speedtests in the video (on a completely uncongested network, mind you) show users hitting downstream speeds of up to 8.5 Mbps, and upstream speeds of up to 2.8 Mbps -- which is about in line with Verizon's promise to deliver between 5 and 12 Mbps downstream. Verizon will be launching the service in between 25-30 markets later this year -- though we're still waiting on Verizon to figure out just how much they want to try and charge for the service...

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NeoandGeo

join:2003-05-10
Harrison, TN

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So they're getting 8.5 out of a hopeful 12 with noone else using it. Sounds great.

aztecnology
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Murrieta, CA

Re: .

Lame...

adisor19

join:2004-10-11

That's it ?!

WoW that really blows in terms of speed.

Bell and Tellus's HSPA+ network currently does sustained 10Mbps down and 2.5Mbps up and Verizon with LTE only manages that ?!

Adi
glinc

join:2009-04-07
New York, NY

Re: That's it ?!

Of course, no one in canada uses broadband.
xenophon

join:2007-09-17
Should be no surprise. Current gen WiMAX also gets that range as they are essentially the same technology.

»/archive/clearwire-wmx.net

The challenge for all 4G carriers will be providing enough backhaul to sustain 5Mbps+ with many users sharing.
DarnellP

join:2004-10-12
Las Vegas, NV

Re: That's it ?!

said by xenophon:

Should be no surprise. Current gen WiMAX also gets that range as they are essentially the same technology.

The difference, of course, is that VZW got that speed on a network with likely no other users on it while some Clear users are getting those speeds and more on a commercially deployed network.
xenophon

join:2007-09-17

Re: That's it ?!

True, when Sprint first demo'd WiMAX in Chicago, they showed up to 11Mbps.

BTW, many of the current WiMAX devices are capable of over 25Mbps but you need the backhaul and MIMO antennas to achieve it outside of a lab. Nextgen WiMAX also claims much much higher performance but it will mean nothing w/out massive backhaul and MIMO. At least Clear has the spectrum, 4X more than ATT/Verizon.
hottboiinnc
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TMO and ATT are pushing similar out with HSPA+. TMO after all has the fastest 3G in the USA regardless of what the ATT ads say.
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kamm

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Re: That's it ?!

said by hottboiinnc:

TMO and ATT are pushing similar out with HSPA+. TMO after all has the fastest 3G in the USA regardless of what the ATT ads say.
Correct. Since Feb-March I get well over 10Mb/s on TMO.
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Re: That's it ?!

said by kamm:

said by hottboiinnc:

TMO and ATT are pushing similar out with HSPA+. TMO after all has the fastest 3G in the USA regardless of what the ATT ads say.
Correct. Since Feb-March I get well over 10Mb/s on TMO.
The robust T-Mobile nationwide 3G network, hard at work!
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kamm

join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY

Re: That's it ?!

said by Gbcue:

said by kamm:

said by hottboiinnc:

TMO and ATT are pushing similar out with HSPA+. TMO after all has the fastest 3G in the USA regardless of what the ATT ads say.
Correct. Since Feb-March I get well over 10Mb/s on TMO.
The robust T-Mobile nationwide 3G network, hard at work!
Exactly. Why?
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xenophon

join:2007-09-17
said by kamm:

Correct. Since Feb-March I get well over 10Mb/s on TMO.
Care to post results? I haven't seen any results over 3Mbps...

»/archive?cid=305

kamm

join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY

Re: That's it ?!

Check my older posts like this: »[T-Mobile] Impressive 3G results

I'll post a capture later here.
xenophon

join:2007-09-17

Re: That's it ?!

Impressive if they can sustain that with many users sharing. In the end though, 3.5G and current rev of 4G would probably be about the same if you supply the same backhaul and have same number of users sharing.

kamm

join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY

Re: That's it ?!

said by xenophon:

Impressive if they can sustain that with many users sharing. In the end though, 3.5G and current rev of 4G would probably be about the same if you supply the same backhaul and have same number of users sharing.
I agree. TMO is doing a very smart move: maxing out HSPA+ gives them option to go over 20Mb/s if they want, something LTE won't match for a long time.
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xenophon

join:2007-09-17

Re: That's it ?!

Yeah, while LTE/WiMAX are 4G technologies they are not fully implemented as 4G yet. IMO, it will take MIMO antennas to fully execute 4G. 3.5G has some life in it until 4G is fully implemented.

w0g
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join:2001-08-30
Springfield, OR

Re: That's it ?!

WiMAX devices are already equiped with MIMO...
xenophon

join:2007-09-17

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Re: That's it ?!

said by w0g:

WiMAX devices are already equiped with MIMO...
At the site, user device or both? I don't think any commercial user devices have MIMO yet, even fixed home base stations. I could be wrong.

Edit: Not to put you on the spot but I just searched around and didn't find any consumer devices that have MIMO antennas. Which ones have it?

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said by hottboiinnc:

TMO and ATT are pushing similar out with HSPA+. TMO after all has the fastest 3G in the USA regardless of what the ATT ads say.
Are you sure? PCWorld did a test a few months ago and found AT&T to be faster than T-Mobile.

»www.pcworld.com/article/189592/a···est.html

kamm

join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY

Re: That's it ?!

said by elias:

said by hottboiinnc:

TMO and ATT are pushing similar out with HSPA+. TMO after all has the fastest 3G in the USA regardless of what the ATT ads say.
Are you sure? PCWorld did a test a few months ago and found AT&T to be faster than T-Mobile.

»www.pcworld.com/article/189592/a···est.html
t's because A) they are clueless and/or B) TMO started "flipping the switch" in February.
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kamm

join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY

EVDO vs world - I get over 13Mb/s on TMO for months now...

...so it's rather pathetic from a next-gen network, VZW.

Of course, let's not forget EVDO is a seriously outdated technology with its current ~2-3Mb/s theoretical maximum and for VZW and Sprint users 8Mb sounds like Shangri-La...

Rest of us a.k.a. the world, is just enjoying 10+ Mb speed on HSPA+ networks.
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Big Dawg 23

join:2002-03-27
Northfield, MN

Re: EVDO vs world - I get over 13Mb/s on TMO for months now...

I have some major metropolitan areas where I would like to see that T-Mo 3G Speed. I test drove T-MO while looking to switch from VZW. There are many parts of Minneapolis/St. Paul that lack 3G on T-mo. Even in the heart of the Twin Cities neither the My Touch or TP2 exceeded 1.5Mb. You are lucky in Brooklyn.

My Droid on VZW averages 1MB up and Down. This is fine for me on my phone. I get 16MB at home so no big deal.

kamm

join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY

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Re: EVDO vs world - I get over 13Mb/s on TMO for months now...

said by Big Dawg 23:

I have some major metropolitan areas where I would like to see that T-Mo 3G Speed. I test drove T-MO while looking to switch from VZW. There are many parts of Minneapolis/St. Paul that lack 3G on T-mo. Even in the heart of the Twin Cities neither the My Touch or TP2 exceeded 1.5Mb. You are lucky in Brooklyn.

If they already have 3G there then you will get it, latest by the end of this year, according to TMO.

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My Droid on VZW averages 1MB up and Down. This is fine for me on my phone. I get 16MB at home so no big deal.
Those numbers must be Mb, I think...

As I wrote in my other post today outdated EVDO networks have no chance to offer speeds that are not pathetic for everyday multimedia use - each shot I take with my phone is ~3 megs so imagine how long would it take to upload them on EVDO when the family is in the park for two hours and we keep taking pictures or, even worse, shooting a WVGA video...
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Duramax08
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theres a catch

most likely they did that speed test on a empty network. Wait till it consumers are online and watch the downspeed go lower and lower. congested network ftl.
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aztecnology
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Re: theres a catch

Not only that, it was a data only test. Show me a handset test while talking and using data at the same time...
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Ortonville, MI

Comcast

So then who needs a wire any more?
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pricing?

where dsl left off $19.99 standalone... add voice and the bill can jump to $40/unlimited for both. sorry, $60+ post paid just doesn't cut it...

it's also time for the consumers to demand lower prices for handsets.. there is NO REASON why a smart-handset must cost $400-$700.. you are getting ripjacked into a subsidy post paid scam for 2 years! without knowing the true cost of the device, consumers can't demand better prices! the only thing you have to go on is your total cost of service for 2 years... which if you read your fine print may or may not be fixed every month (and by fixed I mean that it will INCREASE OVER TIME). this may not be as bad as the gasoline prices lately but 1-10% increase from every customer add up.