 glinc
join:2009-04-07
New York, NY | Surprised? Surprised? nahz. VZW being the #1 right now and best coverage.
But it's funny though...even w/o iphones VZW still get the #1 spot. | |
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 | | | Re: Surprised? said by glinc:Surprised? nahz. VZW being the #1 right now and best coverage. But it's funny though...even w/o iphones VZW still get the #1 spot. They were #2 until they BOUGHT Alltel. Until then they were #2.
And besides the brainwashing - Verizon is not the best. They are good but not the best. Still have their serious issues. | |
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join:2002-05-15
Williamsport, PA | Re: Surprised? said by itguy05:They were #2 until they BOUGHT Alltel. Until then they were #2. And besides the brainwashing - Verizon is not the best. They are good but not the best. Still have their serious issues. LOL, you again? Seriously, give it a rest. Verizon is clearly better than AT&T, OVERALL. Enjoy your little pocket of decent AT&T coverage, but don't venture out into other parts of PA. You'll be sad to find that AT&T is not only worse than Verizon in most of the state, but it's unusable in some places.
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| | | | said by itguy05:said by glinc:Surprised? nahz. VZW being the #1 right now and best coverage. But it's funny though...even w/o iphones VZW still get the #1 spot. They were #2 until they BOUGHT Alltel. Until then they were #2. And besides the brainwashing - Verizon is not the best. They are good but not the best. Still have their serious issues. Would you care to name which company is the best then? | |
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 ThrowDemsOutIf you can't convince 'em, confuse 'emPremium
join:2002-03-03
Mullica Hill, NJ
kudos:4 |  Sprint may not drop to 3rd in 4 yrs
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| | | Re: Sprint may not drop to 3rd in 4 yrs said by ThrowDemsOut:If Sprint can keep rolling out their Wimax network and their existing deals with the cable companies garner more users, Sprint may see their data traffic hold the number 2 spot. Although if they measure just '3G' usage, Sprint's may actually go down since a portion would be offloaded to WiMAX as some users migrate.
Looks like Clearwire just might pull of rolling out WiMAX as schedule if not beat the schedule. Kansas City was announced to get WiMAX later this year but now they are saying "early" this summer. Some parts of the metro are already up and running, unofficially available.
Am thinking of switch from Pre to Evo if WiMAX is live at my place. Is up and running where I work already. | |
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| | ThrowDemsOutIf you can't convince 'em, confuse 'emPremium
join:2002-03-03
Mullica Hill, NJ
kudos:4 | Re: Sprint may not drop to 3rd in 4 yrs said by xenophon:Am thinking of switch from Pre to Evo if WiMAX is live at my place. Is up and running where I work already. Me too. But only if the monthly data everything 450 plan stays the same cost. Wimax in many areas around me - but not everywhere and 4G wouldn't be worth the extra cost. But that EVO smartphone looks real good. | |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | lol Yet one more reason why AT&T can cry me a river about their data usage. Guess their network is just as un-robust as people say it is 
Sprint/VZW FTW! | |
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 SrsBsns
join:2001-08-30
Oklahoma City, OK
2 edits | They dont want you to use their data Its not surprising given AT&T's steep rates for pay per use data and horrendous overage rates on laptop cards. If AT&T actually wanted you to use their data then explain why the iPhone defaults to WIFI. They want you to pay more while delivering less. | |
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| ThrowDemsOutIf you can't convince 'em, confuse 'emPremium
join:2002-03-03
Mullica Hill, NJ
kudos:4 | Re: They dont want you to use their data said by SrsBsns:Its not surprising given AT&T's steep rates for pay per use data and horrendous overage rates on laptop cards. If AT&T actually wanted you to use their data then explain why the iPhone defaults to WIFI. They want you to pay more and deliver less. I agree that AT&T charges too much for their service. That is why I use Sprint.
But making WiFi the default data access method should be what ALL smartphones do. The Sprint & Verizon Palm Pre's work that way. The data access is fastest that way and it keeps unnecessary traffic off of the cell network whenever possible. A smart thing to do for all vendors. | |
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| | SrsBsns
join:2001-08-30
Oklahoma City, OK | Re: They dont want you to use their data I never realized it was done with other carriers as well. I guess I can toss that one into the "effective network management" catch all. The death star wants you to pay more to use their pipes but want to offload their network traffic bills onto another provider for free via WIFI. I'm not sure what the word is but it doesn't seem right. Oh yes, effective network management. | |
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| |  en102Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | I had thought that T-Mobile was the fastest. They're pushing 7.2 - 21Mbps in their 3G network.
I wouldn't worry about Palm, they're looking for a buyer. | |
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|  dib22
join:2002-01-27
Kansas City, MO
kudos:2 | what you think $500.00 for each additional gig over 5 is excessive? (grin) | |
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join:2001-03-11
Yarmouth Port, MA
kudos:5 | Wait, what? So AT&T had the most connected devices, and all of that corresponding revenue, while delivering 3rd-place quantities or of data? (And they've been threatening to throttle that, too!)
That is big news! Thanks ABI research!
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| | iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 Reviews:
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| Re: Wait, what? I'm pretty sure the only folks on AT&T in my central Texas town are folks with iPhones. Almost everyone else is on Sprint or Verizon, though AT&T's 3G network was decent last I checked. That said, Verion is faster on downloads in that area.
Here in the Denver metro there are a lot more iPhone users and a lot less Sprint folks, but Verizon is still big. AFAIK VZW's network is great up here though I haven't tested it with a data card. | |
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| |  BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | said by compuguybna:in TN, its #1 Verizon (towers everywhere), sprint #2 (love the unlimited Mbb), and at&T.....well.... at&T has the fewest 3G towers of anyone in TN.. is there a map for that? All we get here is crappy EDGE/GPRS from AT&T. Hell, the DSL is so limited, you can't get it 2 miles out of town..... Not surprising here, that most of the cell phones are on Verizon. I feel sorry for the AT&T store. Yep Verizon is almost everywhere in TN. I'd say 95% Sprint however Sprint is not much better than at&t once you get outside the cities. Hell you can't even get just regular old mobile phone service form Sprint here let alone 3G. veerizon may not be perfect, but at least they realize that half the population of the state lives somewhere other than the big 4 cities. | |
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 RobIn Deo speramus, God Bless the USAPremium
join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL
kudos:2 | Thanks to the iPhone.. This is because of the iPhone, which switches to Wifi when one is available.
Didn't VZW lock wifi out of some their smartphones? | |
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| glinc
join:2009-04-07
New York, NY | Re: Thanks to the iPhone.. It doesn't switch to wi-fi when available. You'd still have to add it manually.
And no, most of the newest vzw smartphones have wi-fi now. | |
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| Re: Thanks to the iPhone.. said by glinc:It doesn't switch to wi-fi when available. You'd still have to add it manually. And no, most of the newest vzw smartphones have wi-fi now. Any time there is an ATT wifi, the iPhone will automatically connect if WiFi is turned on.
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| | | fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
join:2005-05-20
kudos:3 | Re: Thanks to the iPhone.. ... And anytime you access the Internet for the first time in session, and wifi is available, you are asked if you want to connect. Of you ask me, I like this feature a lot and it's also why I like the idea of lower data plan tiers or billing by the byte. I only use about 100mb of 3G data per month as most of my data is over WiFi. | |
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join:2002-01-27
Kansas City, MO
kudos:2 | said by iLive4Fusion:Any time there is an ATT wifi, the iPhone will automatically connect if WiFi is turned on. so true... its annoying as it breaks my skype (att wifi doesnt route skype properly (shocking i know))...and is painfully slow (att 3g i get around 1.2M average.. att wifi i get 300k max)
its annoying that i have to turn off my wifi just to keep my skype conversations going when i get near a mcdonalds. | |
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|  drewPremium
join:2002-07-10
Port Orchard, WA
kudos:6 | With my iPhone's abysmal battery life, I don't have wifi enabled... ever | |
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| | RobIn Deo speramus, God Bless the USAPremium
join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL
kudos:2 | Re: Thanks to the iPhone.. said by drew:With my iPhone's abysmal battery life, I don't have wifi enabled... ever 3GS? Mine lasts a whole day before I have to recharge it.
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| | | drewPremium
join:2002-07-10
Port Orchard, WA
kudos:6 Reviews:
·wavebroadband
| Re: Thanks to the iPhone.. Si senor.
Medium non-voice usage (typically music) brings it down to sub 40% before 4pm, especially if I did my morning browsing on it (15-20 minutes). This is w/o location services, wifi off, decent signal.
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| | | |  sporkmedrop the crantini and move it, sisterPremium,MVM
join:2000-07-01
Morristown, NJ | Re: Thanks to the iPhone.. said by drew:Si senor. Medium non-voice usage (typically music) brings it down to sub 40% before 4pm, especially if I did my morning browsing on it (15-20 minutes). This is w/o location services, wifi off, decent signal. That's odd. After a day of heavy usage (browsing, email, maps, music) I'm usually down to 50% or so. I have wi-fi on all the time. I'd guess that you forcing wi-fi off is probably causing you MORE battery drain - the 3G connection gives you slower speeds and probably uses much more power.
I'm also finding more and more my phone will hop on my cableco's wifi when I'm out and about which is a bit spooky - I didn't realize the scope of their coverage.
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join:2002-07-10
Port Orchard, WA
kudos:6 Reviews:
·wavebroadband
| Re: Thanks to the iPhone.. Except I'm not surrounded by hotspots -- I don't live in a metro area at all. So having wifi on in a major city (NYC, for example) might end up being a boon to battery, however for someone like me who would be hours between hot spots, not so much. Even the folks at the local AT&T store recommend for people to turn their wifi off if they aren't sure there's a hotspot nearby.
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| |  NerdtalkerWorking Hard, Or Hardly Working?Premium,MVM
join:2003-02-18
Tucson, AZ | I seriously hope you don't have 3G data enabled, or you're really just hurting your battery even more.
Everyone has been over this before - 3G uses more power than WiFi. Yes, really. | |
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join:2002-07-10
Port Orchard, WA
kudos:6 | Re: Thanks to the iPhone.. Of course I have 3G data enabled. I'm not going to facebook, browse DSLR, et al on EDGE. | |
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neftv
join:2000-10-01
Broomall, PA Reviews:
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·SIP Global Phone
·Verizon FiOS
| Why such a downplay with AT&T In Suburban Philadelphia and part of Philly I go to AT&T seems fine. I just purchased a new Nokia 5800 and it will either work on AT&T or TMobile. I am happy with the phone, I have a $15 data plan on it. I not planning to change my phone again anytime soon and unless there is something remarkable with the other carriers (including WiMAx or 4G which is really 3.9G) I am staying put with my 3.5G. | |
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| | What methods were used to measure? 99% of the time, my at&t connection was incorrectly identified as a Verizon connection. It is always wrong on the dslreports homepage and usually wrong on any site that tries to guess my carrier.
How did these guys calculate traffic for each carrier? | |
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| | | Re: What methods were used to measure? said by omonymous :
99% of the time, my at&t connection was incorrectly identified as a Verizon connection. It is always wrong on the dslreports homepage and usually wrong on any site that tries to guess my carrier.
How did these guys calculate traffic for each carrier?
This one is easy if one uses common sense. Typically each provider is given a range if IP addresses which are assigned to them. Then they assign that IP address to your phone when your in 3g mode.
Either 2 things are wrong here.... DSL reports data is incorrect on what ISP has what range if IP address's, or your somehow viewing this page by using a mobile device that is connected to your wifi hotspot that just happens to be verizon DSL...
If thats not the case, then the first one is most logical. Just like number porting, each company is assigned a bank of numbers and could start out at sprint, move to t-mobile, then to Verizon and then to ATT, but the minute you cancel, that number goes right back to Sprint... | |
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| | | | Re: What methods were used to measure? I understand the IP ranges and how sites guess who I'm using.
My post should have been more of a statement that I have doubs on how these guys came to their conclusions - especially since carriers are very protective of traffic on their networks. | |
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| |  NetFixerSnarl For The Camera PleasePremium
join:2004-06-24
Murfreesboro, TN
·Vonage
·Cingular Wireless
·Comcast
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1 edit | said by EasyaCaveMan :said by omonymous :
99% of the time, my at&t connection was incorrectly identified as a Verizon connection. It is always wrong on the dslreports homepage and usually wrong on any site that tries to guess my carrier.
How did these guys calculate traffic for each carrier?
This one is easy if one uses common sense. Typically each provider is given a range if IP addresses which are assigned to them. Then they assign that IP address to your phone when your in 3g mode. Either 2 things are wrong here.... DSL reports data is incorrect on what ISP has what range if IP address's, or your somehow viewing this page by using a mobile device that is connected to your wifi hotspot that just happens to be verizon DSL... If thats not the case, then the first one is most logical. Just like number porting, each company is assigned a bank of numbers and could start out at sprint, move to t-mobile, then to Verizon and then to ATT, but the minute you cancel, that number goes right back to Sprint... I am connected via my tethered AT&T 3G cellphone right now. That phone does not have WiFi capabilities, the connection is strictly a 3G cellphone connection.
It would appear that AT&T and Verizon perhaps in some areas subcontract their 3G service to a third party provider. However, an nslookup for my current 3G IP address, shows its rDNS is registered to mycingular.net:
C:\>nslookup 166.193.96.16
Server: dcs-srv.dcs-net
Address: 192.168.10.2
Name: mobile-166-193-096-016.mycingular.net
Address: 166.193.96.16
At times however, an AT&T cell phone connection from this same location produces an rDNS domain of myvzw.com.
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| dib22
join:2002-01-27
Kansas City, MO
kudos:2 | it is because they are members of the WDSPCO: Wireless Data Service Provider Corporation... and it seems they cant keep their reverse dns properly labeled (or don't care if they do).
check out : »www.wdspco.org/ | |
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