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Verizon Still Eyeing Troll Tolls on Wireless Data

Early last year we noted that AT&T, the company that really started the network neutrality debate to begin with, had come up with yet another awful new idea: charging app makers a fee if they wanted to send data to consumers without impacting their usage caps. While AT&T presented the idea as akin to a 1-800 number for data or "free shipping," what it actually is a troll toll imposed by AT&T allowing them to rake in new cash -- and impose their power on a content ecosystem and app marketplace that operates better with companies like AT&T out of the way.

Obviously Verizon would also love to get in on the action and start charging completely unnecessary tolls; Verizon CFO Fran Shammo saying on the company's recent earnings call that they're still working out the kinks on how to do that. Shammo (like AT&T), still keeps insisting that some unnamed, phantom content companies have been clamoring to pay Verizon a completely arbitrary fee when both consumers and content companies already pay plenty for bandwidth:

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In an appearance at the Oppenheimer Technology, Internet & Communications Conference, Shammo said "there are content providers who have come to us and said, 'We would be willing to pay for content to your end user.'" However, he said the difficulty of such a plan lies in capturing exactly how many subscribers viewed such content and when so that content providers can then turn to their advertisers to monetize the content.
In other words, the billing software (historically not Verizon's strong suit) isn't quite ready for prime time. Most content companies likely would steer clear of a program that raises their costs and allows traditional incumbent wireless gatekeepers to pick and choose winners. What kind of content companies wouldn't? Companies like Microsoft or ESPN with more money than sense, who'd gladly throw around extra billions to ensure they get a leg up on competitors.

Shammo also expressed interest in billing LTE users different prices at different times of the day, but worries that such a shift could "confuse users."
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podstolom
join:2010-01-25
Wichita, KS

podstolom

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More carrier BS...

I'm beginning to hate that new economic buzzword "monetization." Monetizing the circumvention of a data monetizing scheme of capping data allowances is indeed a "troll" toll in the most shameful sense of the word. I'm getting fed up with all of the "monetization" in this country. Don't want to "confuse customers?" Then reinstate unmetered (better word than "unlimited") data plans. Then content providers don't have to pay data charge circumvention fees and carriers aren't faced with implemting complex data aggregation systems in the billing structure. Simple.

anondownload
@comcast.net

anondownload

Anon

one case i would like

there is a single situation case that i would like this for, that would be if once i purchased the hardware the service was free of charge. for example i have an early generation kindle that i can use for free web browsing but i pay nothing for when i do not use for month at a time. i am not against how my kindle works.

but if i am already paying a monthly fee for data access i do not see this working out in a consumer friendly way when it comes to total costs. the exception may be if we get a modern equivalent of the early calling card companies. if wholesale cost per GB is cheaper than what consumer are charged per GB than perhaps we will have toll free VPN and/or Proxy providers popping up that charge less per GB than going direct with the carriers.

the problem would come if the carriers started to charge all app developers and content providers if they wanted access too their customers.

has any carrier ever discussed what the per KB/MB/GB price would be for toll free data? at the end of the day that is really what matters.

batterup
I Can Not Tell A Lie.
Premium Member
join:2003-02-06
Netcong, NJ

batterup

Premium Member

With Verizon 4G 5gig goes fast.

I have a Verizon 4G broadband modem $10 a gig with a 5 gig minimum a month. I can't afford to watch a 30 second video advertisement every time I visit a site to read a few paragraphs. I could suffer it if I didn't have to pay to watch advertisements. Advertisers pay to advertise, the target would be foolish to pay to watch advertising.

Isn't this like a shopping network paying to be carried by CATV?

AQ
@spcsdns.net

AQ

Anon

Re: With Verizon 4G 5gig goes fast.

advertisers pay the place they advertise on for the ads, not you. thats like you getting payed for watching ads, which would only happen on a place that is for ads. most ads are to pay for the content on the page (or more then, for profit).
advertisers aren't always sponsors, there is a difference between a sponsor & a biz partner/transaction

batterup
I Can Not Tell A Lie.
Premium Member
join:2003-02-06
Netcong, NJ

batterup

Premium Member

Re: With Verizon 4G 5gig goes fast.

What ever, who ever; I'm not paying $10 a gig to watch adds. I just don't visit those pages when I'm on wireless.