 Cogdis join:2007-03-26 Floral Park, NY | Got my check today I got my refund check today for $6.25. Considering they billed me almost every month for a year up until I canceled the service in 09, and then another month AFTER that, I think they short-changed me a bit! | |
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 |  1 edit | Re: Got my check today I got a whopping $2.27 today after years of being over billed. I called many times up until the rep got nasty with me and I cancelled. -- dream your dreams with open eyes and make them come true... | |
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 cdbma join:2003-01-19 Bolton, MA 1 edit | what I could do with $25M... The money will be collected and then immediately find its way into the abyss known as the Federal Government. Overcharged Verizon customers will probably end up subsidizing some bridge to nowhere! In the long run, we still lose.
As the article mentions, paying the $25M is the easy (and economical) way out. Reminds me of a recent comment by a NFL player regarding fines for illegal hits. He said that the fine is really not a big deal, but getting suspended for a game would definitely get his attention.
We need something that will get a company's attention. Verizon said "woops!" and the Feds caved. It's called fraud and you and I would go to jail for ripping people off like this. | |
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 elray join:2000-12-16 Santa Monica, CA | The New (FCC) Math Lessee... $2/month x 100 million customers x 2 years = a coupon for a 15% discount on leather accessories when you purchase them at a Verizon store, OR 15 free minutes added to your monthly allocation when you renew your contract.
And y'all want your government to regulate broadband.
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| Re: The New (FCC) Math This reply is stupid. It's completely off-base and ridiculous. You're trying to turn this issue into an anti-government regulation, pro-free-market issue.
If it were left to the damn free market, VERIZON WOULD STILL BE ISSUING THESE CHARGES AND DENYING WRONGDOING.
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 thegeekPremium join:2008-02-21 right here kudos:2 | New Verizon Fee Coming For All Customers I'm sure Verizon will add a new bogus below the line fee for every customer every month for about $1.99 per line. It will be called something like Regulatory Data Block Technology Improvement Program Recovery Fee. | |
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 |  dvd536as Mr. Pink as they comePremium join:2001-04-27 Phoenix, AZ kudos:4 | Re: New Verizon Fee Coming For All Customers said by thegeek:I'm sure Verizon will add a new bogus below the line fee for every customer every month for about $1.99 per line. It will be called something like Regulatory Data Block Technology Improvement Program Recovery Fee. What? you mean verizon doesn't have a magic money tree? -- The shortest distance between 2 points adds 1.5 stars to T. want $25? solve »coord.info/GC20A37 for me | |
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 funchordsHelloPremium,MVM join:2001-03-11 Yarmouth Port, MA kudos:6 | Made out LIKE a bandit? Karl, you're soft-pedaling.
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 |  DoRight join:2007-07-20 East Petersburg, PA | Re: And no one will cancel I hate their overprice service but had to go with them. | |
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Why everyone loves Verizon, I will never know Almost makes me glad they sold out to Frontier!!
Hated their wireless service here. Had their service for 2 years (contract) but dumped them the day after that was over.
They will find another way to recoup what little they're refunding though. Verizon is the king of greed and the ripoff!! -- The Firefox alternative. »www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/ | |
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Why everyone loves Verizon, I will never know I despise them but I know a good product when I see one. If you can find me another carrier with better business practices that matches their Upstate NY network I'll switch in a heartbeat.
T-Mobile is the only carrier that doesn't pull this kind of crap and their network around here is useless outside of the city. Drive two minutes from the interstate and you have no service in many areas. | |
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| Not every month You keep saying they charged 15 million people at least $2/mo, but that is not the reality. I can say this from my experience. I was charged a handful of times on a couple of my lines, it was not 'every' month.
I was able to get some refunded by calling in, but was once told that to block data access on the phone, it could not longer send and receive picture messages covered under my text plan.
Is Verizon paying as much as they need to? I highly doubt it, but it is not the windfall you make it seem. It would take some really dumb people to pay a $2/mo charge for a service they weren't getting - but hey, it could happen.
I see on my old account that I have a $2.27 credit. Probably from a charge that I forgot to call and get credit for. | |
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| Re: Not every month I've seen some users complain about this fee on a one off basis, but I've seen other people who've fought Verizon billing about this fee on their bill every month for years. Others saw the fee multiple times in one month.
So yeah, 72 months x $1.99 per month x 15 million is the high-end estimate, but whatever the real number is I bet it's much higher than 25-75 million. In fact if Verizon agreed to $75 million I'd bet my home that it's probably closer to several hundred million.
Still not clear (I've asked and am waiting for response) if the FCC actually went in and confirmed the numbers, or if they just trusted Verizon math. | |
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 |  nycitynyPremium join:2005-08-09 New York, NY | said by unknvoip: It would take some really dumb people to pay a $2/mo charge for a service they weren't getting - but hey, it could happen. You're being rather high and mighty by assuming that "dumb" people missed the charge. Most people are too busy to read through all the garbage fees on a cellphone bill to determine if they are valid. And a $1.99 charge would look just like another garbage surcharge or recovery fee. | |
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The bill is not hard to read - the fee is right there under "Data Usage". | |
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 |  |  |  LinklistPremium join:2002-03-03 Longport, NJ kudos:5 | Re: Not every month said by unknvoip:Ok, I take it back - they are not 'dumb' but 'LAZY' instead. I am busy too, but I notice when a bill amount changes. The bill is not hard to read - the fee is right there under "Data Usage". They don't read their bill because they get it electronically and they pay automatically. They just don't bother to even look at the bill. | |
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To me looking at the electronic version is easier than sorting through the snail mail for it. | |
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 mix join:2002-03-19 Utica, MI | Refund on current billing My Sep 13 - Oct 12 Verizon bill, due date 11/07/10 has this line item (where X's were my phone number):
Megabyte / Kilobyte Adjustment for XXX-XXX-XXXX on 10/01/10 -4.26
Dare I go and figure out how many of these 1.99 charges I had over the course of the last few years? | |
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 |  | | Re: Refund on current billing said by mix:My Sep 13 - Oct 12 Verizon bill, due date 11/07/10 has this line item (where X's were my phone number): Megabyte / Kilobyte Adjustment for XXX-XXX-XXXX on 10/01/10 -4.26 Dare I go and figure out how many of these 1.99 charges I had over the course of the last few years? I got the same thing. -- Buckeye Stangs - Ohio Mustang Club | |
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 dougauPremium join:2007-08-09 Dickson, TN | Verizons new way to rip you off
Here's the latest one, during a "update" to a phone I have running Android, the LG Ally to be exact, Verizon installed a program called "City ID" which cant be removed unless you void the warranty by rooting the phone. It was okay during the "30 or however many day trial" it gives you without asking but now that it has expired it pops up after every few calls asking me if I would like City ID for $1.99 a month and you have to tap yes or no to dismiss the screen. I'm guessing they're counting on lots of people taping yes by mistake.
So my question is can anything be done to force Verizon to allow users who don't want this nag ware on their phones remove it as it does try to trick you into the $1.99 a month charge? | |
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 | | . Even though it was delayed I am glad the FCC did something about it finally even though I am not a Verizon customer. | |
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 BenPremium join:2007-06-17 Glen Carbon, IL 1 edit | ONLY $25 million? _ Disgusting. Absolutely disgusting. Here's a little math:
15 million customers * $2/mo. * 1 month = $30 million.
_ That $30 million is for only one month, and it's still greater than $25 million, the amount of the settlement. Of course, this rip off occurred many more times than just in a single month.
_ Here's some more math, but this time for just one year, which is less time than this has been going on.
15 million customers * $2/mo. * 12 months = $360 million!
_ So they didn't probably make a killing, they did make a killing. There's no "probably" about it. | |
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 rchandraStargate Universe fanPremium join:2000-11-09 14225-2105 | "earned"? "...Verizon could have potentially earned more than a billion dollars off of the fees..."
ahhhhhh...more like "collected." Not quite sure "earned" would be the word.
Locally, WBEN got this (somewhat) wrong by not mentioning these charges were to people who asked for data to be blocked.
Go Phone (AT&T) did a similar thing to me; I asked (because of the expense) for SMS and data to be disabled. They apparently didn't, because I accidentally hit some button on my phone, and there I was at some blank page in a browser. After exiting that, a message told me I had just spent $0.35 (you get a message every time you spend account money--how much, and your balance). However, when called (within minutes), this was not contested, a refund was issued to my balance, and the blocking was properly instituted (the "GPRS connected" indicator no longer appeared).
Still...I have to ask...if you do have blocking as part of your service offering, what part of "I don't/didn't want this" did you not understand? -- English is a difficult enough language to interpret correctly when its rules are followed, let alone when a writer chooses not to follow those rules.
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 mdttb join:2002-02-12 Anaheim, CA | bs I have 4 lines all of them have been charged at one time or another for the 1.99 data fee over the past 3 years. On one line it's been hit with the 1.99 fee for the past 4 or 5 months. I'm getting back $8.80 (BFD) when I questioned the rep that they owe me alot more then just the $8.80 I was informed they're only going back 90 days !!!!
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