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newview
Ex .. Ex .. Exactly
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join:2001-10-01
Parsonsburg, MD
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| Re: Lol said by sansri88  :I can't even get DSL at my place. No FiOS yet either. I guess I'm stuck with Comcast for the time being  I feel your pain.
I'd buy this in a heartbeat if I could get DSL in my area.
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rideboarder
welcome to the social
Premium
join:2003-07-28
Snohomish, WA
clubs: | Re: Lol the upload speed is 768k for the 3MB tier. | |
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join:2007-03-26
Floral Park, NY | What about a contract?
I want to drop TWC to get a little more upload, but only if I can switch to fios when they switch it on. No point in being locked into an old technology. | |
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join:2000-09-16
West Boylston, MA | Re: Lol you can sign up for DSL and once they install FIOS they will switch you over. They don't want to keep you on copper if you have fiber (less maintenance costs). | |
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jubangy
Premium
join:2005-03-26
Erie, PA
 ·DSL EXTREME
| said by Cogdis :What about a contract? I want to drop TWC to get a little more upload, but only if I can switch to fios when they switch it on. No point in being locked into an old technology. According to the signup page, when Fios becomes available they will automatically switch you. | |
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join:2001-10-06
Pittsburgh, PA | Re: Lol If you're in VZ territory, chances are you'll be getting FiOS before anything else... It will only be a matter of time(12-36mo), before all off NJ is FTTP..At least you'll be in the pipeline for the future. | |
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sansri88
Go digtal you analog laggards
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join:2005-12-17
Iselin, NJ
clubs: | Re: Lol Yup, I'm VZ territory--former Bell Atlantic. FiOS is in all the townships around me, I hear this spring we're getting it. | |
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join:2005-09-22
San Jose, CA
 ·Comcast
·SONIC.NET
| Re: Lol said by sansri88 :Yup, I'm VZ territory--former Bell Atlantic. FiOS is in all the townships around me, I hear this spring we're getting it. As consumer internet offerings go, that's a short time away (if true). | |
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wdoa
join:2001-10-16
Spencer, MA
·Verizon Online DSL
| said by ashworth :If you're in VZ territory, chances are you'll be getting FiOS before anything else. Unless you are in Masachusetts where Verizon is in a pissing match with the state and refuses to extend FIOS in the state beyond their current FIOS footprint. | |
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VZ Guy
@myvzw.com
| Unfortunately DSL is a distance technology and not a straight line distance. It is actual distance of the wire so if it is routed around your neighborhood and you are at the end of the line, you may not be able to get or get degraded speeds. However, VZ was not running any new fiber at the end of '07 because budgets were used and quotas achieved. They will be out running new fiber and lighting up wherever they can as of the new year '08 which is good news for the remainder of NJ. 11 new S NJ communities just lit up. »www.verizon.com/nj | |
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studabak
@att.net
| Greetings : I have similar frustration..... Cable is here but costly, as is satellite, and wireless..... 600 feet from Hwy. DSL is running down that trunk to/from next town....... and I can't have it because the line I'm on in that same trunk is over 12,000 feet from its hub station...... yet my friend in Oklahoma with Pioneer Telephone 30 miles from town just got DSL before Christmas...... I just have to wonder if some of us are being treated fourth rate in a third world way on purpose...... | |
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Koughen
@verizon.net | Keep it. I'm sorry I went to DSL. | |
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sansri88
Go digtal you analog laggards
Premium
join:2005-12-17
Iselin, NJ
clubs: | Re: Lol I'm like 18,200 feet from the CO. Right on the edge of the Woodbridge CO. | |
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Steve B
join:2004-08-02
Seattle, WA | LOL I already have that tier for my DSL through Qwest and I only pay $36.99 and its non-promotional too. | |
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join:2007-02-07
Willingboro, NJ
·Verizon Online DSL
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| Re: LOL Heck I am stuck paying 38.95 for 768/128 Dsl.... Because I am a customer from the days of Bell Atlantic... Cable is a non option here. Even If i cancel I can never be come a so called new customer. I would have and change my name So i am not in their billing system. | |
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tschmidt
Premium,MVM
join:2000-11-12
Milford, NH
·Verizon Online DSL
| Re: LOL said by dei2 :Heck I am stuck paying 38.95 for 768/128 Dsl.... Because I am a customer from the days of Bell Atlantic... Have you called billing? I've been a Verizon customer for years and have had numerous price reductions and speed increases.
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ohiosurfer
@verizon.net | Call Verizon. My DSL was cancelled due to an expired credit card, but my phone line remained active. When I called them and signed up for dsl again I was given the new customer rate ($14.95/mo). | |
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join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY | Say you need service at "Apt A" and under a different name if anything. | |
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join:2000-09-16
West Boylston, MA | Call and tell them your situation. If they don't budge then tell them you would like to cancel and go with someone else (even if you have no one else to go to). Hopefully you would get to the retentions dept and they will give you a package. | |
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VZ Guy
@myvzw.com | Yeah, you should be able to negotiate a new rate or add services together for a new bundle price and increased savings. | |
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| allgold
join:2005-03-26
East Lansing, MI | Re: ATT AT&T already offers 6/768 for $35/month. I'd rather have that than an extra 1M download for $48/month. | |
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join:2006-04-24
Fort Lauderdale, FL
·AT&T Southeast
| Re: ATT said by allgold :AT&T already offers 6/768 for $35/month. I'd rather have that than an extra 1M download for $48/month. I think he means Bellsouth. | |
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Pashune
Your average, anemic person.
Premium
join:2006-04-14
Gautier, MS
·CableOne
·AT&T Southeast
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January 9th, @01:46AM
| Re: ATT Not to mention our upload speeds are different as well (512 kbits). With that being said, however, any user on 6.0 within Bellsouth territory gets the FULL 6 meg download (Assuming the line conditions are proficient and up to par, as well as the servers you're downloading from). 6 meg customers will sync at an 8 meg data rate, but will be able to download at 6 mbits per sec. It's a little something called Maxsync.
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Doctor Olds
I Need A Remedy For What's Ailing Me.
Premium,VIP
join:2001-04-19
1970 442 W30
clubs:
| Re: ATT said by Pashune : 6 meg customers will sync at an 8 meg data rate, but will be able to download at 6 mbits per sec. It's a little something called Maxsync. Not all 6 Meg customers sync at 8 Meg. That is 100% impossible.
And MaxSync has caused numerous problems for many people as seen by the multitude of posts in the Bellsouth Forum with people begging to be taken off of it. They rightly post that their previously perfect DSL is no longer stable due to MaxSync.
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join:2000-10-12
Texas
| said by Dude :Hello ATT we want more bandwidth. Follow Verizon ATT, TAKE NOTES!!!! | |
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firephoto
KDE
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join:2003-03-18 | ex-GTE = 1500 I'd love just to have 3000... | |
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@in.us | Re: ex-GTE = 1500 Our extension GTE C.O. out here offers 3000... you sure thats all they offer??? | |
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Jerm
join:2000-04-10
Richland, WA
| Fire do you have the old Orkit/Fujitsu frame relay modems? If so 1.5mbit is the fastest those can go, because the entire DSLAM only has 1.5mbit for all the customers hooked up to it!
If you can cancel/reorder you'll get a new ATM Westell and welcome to 7mbps  | |
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firephoto
KDE
Premium
join:2003-03-18
·Verizon west (ex G..
| Re: ex-GTE = 1500 No, I have some flavor of westell modem. I want to say I'm 8000 feet out but I can't remember. I know when I first got caller id it didn't work so they 'fixed' the line and eliminated the 25000 foot loop I was loaded up on.
I think the wire here is smaller too I was told. Last time I called I was told that 1500 was the only option in the area.
modem is a westell b90-210015-04 | |
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Pashune
Your average, anemic person.
Premium
join:2006-04-14
Gautier, MS | Re: ex-GTE = 1500 26 ga perhaps? It's the same situation for me, but my loop is around 15,000 kft and I can get 3 meg just barely. This is directly to the CO; no joke.
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join:2007-01-09
Stony Point, NC | boohoooooooo I'd love just to be able to get DSL. Quit your crying girls. | |
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jap
Premium
join:2003-08-10
038xx
·Verizon Online DSL
| Re: boohoooooooo said by dialupsux :I'd love just to be able to get DSL. Quit your crying girls. Well, won'tgo for your 'girls' comment but I'm with you on the cruing. Stuck on dialup here too.
Like others, 3000/768 here in northern NH too. People on the lower upstream should keep hammering away. You'll ge the faster upstream. WHICH IS WHAT THIS NEW TIER NEEDS TOO. I'd much rather have 5000/1000. | |
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MadMANN
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join:2005-08-19
·Comcast
| Where are the money complaints? With all of the complaints of cable prices around here, I am surprised not to see any complaints about the $48 price.
Comcast 8/768 or 16/2 = $52.95
Not much of a difference MB for MB, and whatever speed tiers are available in your system are available for everyone, despite length from the headend.  | |
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Mactron
el Camino Real
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join:2001-12-16
CM94sv | Ka-ching Damn for that price Comcast is looking a whole lot better. | |
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maartena
Obama 2008
join:2002-05-10
Orange, CA
| 8000 ft.... And I am 11000 ft from the CO.
I pay $7 more for my 10 Meg down, 1 Meg up cable, and I am happy with it. Until DSL can bring me something faster for the same price or lower at my 11000 ft.... I am not going anywhere :P
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join:2001-12-20
Bethlehem, PA | 7mbps won't be any different from 3mbps The sole accomplishment of this offering will be to bring a whole new tier of low speed complaints to the Verizon Forum. They can't support 3mbps now, how does anyone expect them to support 7mbps? | |
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floydb_1982
join:2004-08-25
Kent, WA |  Does that comw ith power boost?
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join:2002-08-13
Pottsville, PA
| Re: Does that comw ith power boost? yea power boost... like i said, try uploading AND downloading at the same time and tell me what your speeds are... not to mention your latency... run a speed test to the closest test server to you on cable, and i'll bet i cut your latency time in half on dsl | |
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join:2002-12-02
Crown City, OH | Nope. 7mb is pretty much the limit for dsl. | |
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qworster
join:2001-11-25
Los Angeles, CA | Just in time for me to move out of Verizon territory... I'm moving to Hollywood middle of the month, which is AT&T territory.
Oh well...looks like it's (back) to DSL Extreme for me.
6000/768 with 8 static IPs for 50.00/month. | |
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mike12806
join:2007-08-28
Milton, MA | comcast? well I know im going to get blasted from this....but i get rock-solid comcast 16 down/2 up....if it wasn't for the bittorrent filtering comcast would blow verizon's crappy old-tech DSL out of the water. | |
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@psu.edu
| Re: DSL's whole problem had cable (comcast), too many people got booked. Started with speeds of 6/384 in 2001 then up in 2005 we canceld cause over the years it dropped to 2.8/300. Since the verizon dsl was $34 at the time for 3/768 we switched. I do miss having the 6mbps download rate so 7mbps would be very nice. | |
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join:2005-09-22
San Jose, CA
·Comcast
·SONIC.NET
| Re: DSL's whole problem The above two posts, "DSL's whole problem" and "Re: DSL's whole problem", discussing the pointed problems with DSL and Cable, pretty much sum up the basic fundamental detriments of both services, technically as implemented.
It's worth saying that each one also has examples of where those technology deficiencies are not a problem, for instance, with DSL, being close enough and/or good wire ("cable" but that has multiple definitions, i.e., twisted pair, aka traditionally for telephone), and with "Cable" (i.e. coax, aka traditionally for television), nodes that are speedy (not overloaded).
There can also be some other differences: DSL is more often less restrictive in its acceptable use policies, and "cable" is usually faster than DSL. Depending upon the details of the available packages, your available budget, and what needs you have, those other differences are often important, and often are not.
What I advocate is seeing them as shades of the same thing, and learning what particular thing you have available in your home or business, so that you can make your decisions. A lot of people end up getting both, one at one time, the other at a time later, and go back and forth and finally settle on what works better for them.
The worst situation is when people are locked into contracts that they can't get out of to get something more appropriate for them. Locally, AT&T pushes terms onto resellers that require contracts, but they've gotten looser. Comcast doesn't do those term contracts. Also, Comcast costs more at the low end. Where I live, only one is fast; the other is slow. (You can guess which is which.) I think the contract lock-ins are worse than slow speeds, because ultimately they stifle competition and therefore quality, and therefore speed, in the general, bigger, long run. | |
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join:2008-01-07
Winter Garden, FL
| Not a good start imo I went to the website to see if fios was in my area and the site didn't even recognize my address as being a genuine street address lol. I guess it was confused because my street has no directional modifier (N, S, E, W) or apartment number. I never did find out if fios is in my area. No matter what I tried the site insisted I was putting in a P.O. Box or something. | |
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@myvzw.com
| Re: Not a good start imo Verizon's address qualifications are very tempermental because they run the address database across USPS databases. Unfortunately, this makes the info very tricky to get exactly correct. Such as the city you live in could be listed as the township instead of the town or even of some appreviation for the city, town, or township. The best way to search is to attempt to leave the address as basic as possible and not too specific. This usually leads the database to bring back choices for you to choose your correct addres for qualification. | |
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sporkme
drop the crantini and move it, sister
Premium,MVM
join:2000-07-01
Budd Lake, NJ | Bellheads vs. Netheads Netheads are turned loose and you get FiOS.
Bellheads are turned loose and in about 10 years they push the limits to what they were 8 years ago.
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Network Guy
join:2000-08-25
New York | Sweet My loop is 5500 feet from CO. I am spoiled with the $27.99 price for life though, not sure if I would go for it. | |
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@xx.65 | $47.99 / month seems high.... I am a VZ DSL customer in Buffalo, NY right now.....I get 3MB DSL for $29.99 / month. So jumping up to $50 for 4 more meg seems pricey to me.
Although I would like more speed, for $50, I would probably just stay at the 3mb for $30. | |
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| brawney
Premium
join:2002-03-02
Frederick, MD
·Verizon Online DSL
| Re: $47.99 / month seems high.... said by BryanP :
I am a VZ DSL customer in Buffalo, NY right now.....I get 3MB DSL for $29.99 / month. So jumping up to $50 for 4 more meg seems pricey to me.
Although I would like more speed, for $50, I would probably just stay at the 3mb for $30.
I'm in the same situation and feel the same. I would like 7mb (don't really "need" it) but not enough to pay that much more money. I still think its a good price, but I'm happy with 3/768 at $29. | |
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chazman1
join:2001-11-19
Mount Orab, OH | Wish I could sign up About 2,800 feet from the CO and if available I would get this today. No other choices in the area would come close to this speed. | |
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MalibuMaxx
join:2007-02-06
Chesterton, IN
·Comcast
| Latency Ha DSL latency runs at about 200ms around here... I do installs for verizon ext. gte DHCP servers around here... I go with comcrap because of that reason... It wouldnt matter anyway because... they dont offer service where I live... I'm not too far from the C.O., live well within its limits... however it would cost VERIZON too much to run new copper capable of DSL specification as well as maintance on such a line that they choose not to do it...
So I'll keep my Cable internet... comcast doesnt Sandvine our area... im a happy customer... with 50ms pings or below... | |
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join:2000-04-10
Richland, WA
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January 8th, @02:06PM
| Re: Latency MalibuMaxx -
DSL can ping better than cable. Verizon sets all lines up with Interleaving ON - switch that to Fast Path and the pings will go down to 5ms to the gateway.
I've had both DSL & Cable, tweak'd to the max for gaming. DSL does provide a more reliable gaming experience (ie pings would be 20ms or 21ms, never fluctuating more than 1-2ms) but in the end for me it was the cable bandwidth that won out. | |
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join:2007-02-06
Chesterton, IN
·Comcast
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January 8th, @04:15PM
| Re: Latency I tried fastpath a few times... but the copper out in my area really stinks... Id be hard pressed to see 45 ms (which is not that bad) on fastpath... (often it would be 50+ though) It all depends on where u are... With one customer they complained about disconnects as well (Signals were on teh boarderline...) thats why i usually never try it with a customer...
I was in no meaning saying DSL can't ping better than cable just depends on the copper on that loop as well as many other variables...
and in all reality cable gets that low... so DSL can ping comparable to Cable... lol | |
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Verizon Taking Orders for 7Mbps DSL
, I only wish the upload were double. 
