  ztmikeMark for moderationPremium
join:2001-08-02
Michigan City, IN | Tests? "We are looking at femtocell technology and will soon be performing user tests"
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 | | | Re: rip off They are competitors and all provide similar services. T-Moblie can only wish to have same network than VZ | |
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join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA | This is quite different from T-Mobile's product, because it doesn't use WiFi. Instead it creates essentially a small limited CDMA cell-tower, so any phone that works on VZW's network (if enabled at the femtocell) now will work on it rather than a limited selection of WiFi enabled phones.
If they're ripping off anyone it's Sprint, but really it's like saying that T-Mobile ripped off at&t by introducing 3G... | |
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| | I'm waiting for AT&T Wireless to announce the same. AT&T, what are you waiting for? | |
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| | | Re: I'm waiting for AT&T Wireless to announce the same. It's coming, but probably not in 2009. Femtocells aren't a top priority right now as ATT is in the midst of deciding a lot of issues- including capital cost reductions, layoffs, and when to kill off further 3g deployments and start deploying LTE.
They do have a manufacturer lined up to though, and it's not lost on them that they can generate $10~30 (whatever they decide) monthly for these devices. | |
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join:2002-07-12
Valparaiso, IN | Re: I'm waiting for AT&T Wireless to announce the same. AT&T has to recoup from the $900 millio9n dollar bill due to Apple!!!.. Hey Mr. Jobs.. Share the wealth please!! | |
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| | Latency Question How do femtocells handle differences in latency between cable/DSL connections and cellular?
If I made a call on my "home" DSL line, and then walked outside to an area where the signal was handed off to a cell tower, would I notice a difference? | |
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join:2007-03-26
Floral Park, NY | Re: Latency Question Well if it's anything like the Sprint Airave then it'll be hit or miss. Sometimes it will hand off smoothly and you wouldn't know it was handed off if not for the tone. Other times you will still hear the other person but they will not hear you anymore.
Besides the hand off the service is flawless. | |
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|  TzaleProud Libertarian ConservativePremium
join:2004-01-06
NYC Metro | said by expert007:How do femtocells handle differences in latency between cable/DSL connections and cellular? If I made a call on my "home" DSL line, and then walked outside to an area where the signal was handed off to a cell tower, would I notice a difference? That is a problem, but it is just grasping for straws.... It is something that can just be dealt with for the few milliseconds of delay.
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| | hmm Also how will verizons fios handle a femtocell from att wireless? | |
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| | | Re: hmm This is a Verizon Wireless product, not a Verizon one. Karl took a shortcut when writing his headline. | |
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| | | | Re: hmm I know that but will verizon fios block an att wireless femtocell? | |
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join:2004-05-28
Fallbrook, CA
kudos:1 | Re: hmm I don't see how they could, that could get them in trouble with the FCC. Look at all the trouble Comcast got in by throttling bittorrent traffic.
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| Can I have this? PLEASE!! I have a work provided Verizon phone that doesn't work for squat in my house. I have to go to the end of my driveway just to get enough signal to use my phone.
I would LOVE to get one of these things so I can use this crappy phone in my house with winter coming up.
Verizon says that there is "not enough population density" in my area to warrant a new cell tower or any other improvement in the service for my area.
Gee, its just the area with the largest influx of new townhomes in south east Wisconsin...
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| TzaleProud Libertarian ConservativePremium
join:2004-01-06
NYC Metro | Re: Can I have this? PLEASE!! said by Warmachine99:I have a work provided Verizon phone that doesn't work for squat in my house. I have to go to the end of my driveway just to get enough signal to use my phone. I would LOVE to get one of these things so I can use this crappy phone in my house with winter coming up. Verizon says that there is "not enough population density" in my area to warrant a new cell tower or any other improvement in the service for my area. Gee, its just the area with the largest influx of new townhomes in south east Wisconsin... John McCain had no problem getting a remote cell tower installed for his household from VZ.
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| | | Hey, it's a win win for the cell phone company. They charge you to provide a signal, then they don't provide it, and then they offer you the ability to provide your own signal for $10 more a month using your own power and equipment you buy. | |
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b10010011Whats a Posting tag?
join:2004-09-07
Bellingham, WA
1 edit | Femtocells sounds too girlie for me to have one on my house. Couldn't they have come up with a less girlie name?
How about Mascocells, Mantocells, or Clint-Eastwood-tocells?  | |
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join:2005-02-04
Gatineau, QC
1 edit | Re: Another EM source right into the home Right, let's move cell towers into the home... no wonder cancer rates are skyrocketing, with all the EM fields we are exposed to. | |
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| | TzaleProud Libertarian ConservativePremium
join:2004-01-06
NYC Metro
1 edit | Re: Another EM source right into the home said by bluex:Right, let's move cell towers into the home... no wonder cancer rates are skyrocketing, with all the EM fields we are exposed to. What kind of education are they providing you guys up their in Quebec land?  EM is dangerous only at certain frequencies / above a certain energy density.... There is no proof that cell phone frequencies at their current average energy density are any health risk to humans.
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join:2005-02-04
Gatineau, QC
4 edits | Re: Another EM source right into the home said by Tzale 
There is no proof that cell phone frequencies at their current average energy density are any health risk to humans.
And there is no proof, out of any doubt, of the opposite either, which is why the precautionary principle should be considered.
You know, exposure thresholds are set by people, at a given time, and sometimes later on (because of studies, research, public concerns, etc. ) they are proven wrong. For example, in '90 the maximum limit for Radon in a house was 800 Bq., and even that was considered perfectly safe. People testing their house for Radon in the '90 could say "hey, my house has 500 Bq, I am way below the threshold, I'm perfectly safe". In 2008, the limit is now 150 Bq, because a higher level has been linked to lung cancer. The same principle can be applied to anything. So before adding additional EM sources to a home, which maybe already has multiple EM sources such as Wifi transmitters, I would think about it. | |
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| | | | | | Re: Another EM source right into the home I believe that Radon is dangerous because you can breath the radiation in. It is alpha radiation whereas wireless radiation is electromagnetic radiation of the non-ionizing variety.
Following the principles of point sources, the radiation exposure rate will decrease exponentially as you move away from the source, so it is unlikely that the femtocell itself will create any significant increase in risk.
However, the increased cell phone usage may. Personally, I am not convinced that the long term studies of people using the phones for 1 hour a week are representative of real world use, so I limit my usage of the phone to more in line with the study - and I wear a headset. | |
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join:2005-02-04
Gatineau, QC | Re: Another EM source right into the home A talk with different opinions, that's what's called democracy. | |
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join:2004-09-07
Bellingham, WA Reviews:
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2 edits | Re: Another EM source right into the home said by bluex:A talk with different opinions, that's what's called democracy. Sure, but you could have started your own topic.
This was intended to be a light hearted thread on the name FEMtocells.
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| | Just what I need Just what I need, wireless kinda sorta broadband in my home that I have to pay for by the megabyte.
Who needs WiFi and broadband when you can pay the Telco's more and get less. | |
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 BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | Just a question "Femtocells essentially create a micro cell tower in your home that improves wireless coverage and allows you to make calls over your broadband connection"
Um so if I'm using my broadband connection is that going to count against my minutes and if so why? | |
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|  JimThePCGuyFormerly known as schja01.Premium,MVM
join:2000-04-27
Morton Grove, IL | Re: Just a question The way Sprint does it today (and I'm not say VZ will do the same) is:
Femtocell (Sprint calls them Airaves): $99 one time cost
Monthly fee per Airave just to use it: $4.99/mo
Optional:
Unlimited Minutes while on the Airave for one phone: $10/mo
Unlimited Minutes for all phones on a shared account: $20/mo
Many Sprint customers get the $99 and $4.99/mo waived.
Most are charged the optional unlimited charge if they choose to add that to their accounts. | |
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| | quality is this gona sound any different then voip? ive been through most of the major voip providers and the call quality was unusable most of the time. Thats why i ditched voip and upped the min on my cell phone a bit. The only voip i found to be half decent was comcast. That thats because your internet transfers dont effect voip with them. Not that im a comcast supporter | |
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Sprint has beat you to it Verizon...