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join:2006-04-11
North Wales, PA | 802.11n? Anyone know if either of these are 802.11n capable? | |
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join:2008-06-06
Livermore, CA | Re: 802.11n? The Small Netbuilder review of the MI424WR relates to an older model based on totally different hardware, so beware. | |
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
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join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| said by apollo80  :I see that the MI424WR is 802.11b/g. Couldn't find anything about the Westell. Hmmmmm. how does one get 75 to 175mbps on hardware limited to 54mbps and expect ~20mbps[realworld] out of that.
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join:2005-01-31
Sarasota, FL | Re: 802.11n? That's referring to the speed over coax not Wi-Fi. | |
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| joker5656
join:2006-06-23
Greenville, SC | i think b and g are compatible, however you won't get the N capabilities. just the range no speed. | |
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ztmike
1kwikgt
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join:2001-08-02 | Crys :( Whyyyyyy why why Can't my local phone company be Verizon? Damn you to hell At$t!
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| tullysdad
join:2007-06-11
Saint Louis, MO | Re: Crys :( Agreed. AT&T is in the stone ages. Tried U-Verse and it was complete crap. | |
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Goosed
@boeing.com | Re: Crys :( "remote Verizon technician management"
This is the first thing I would want to disable. | |
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Premium
join:2007-06-17
Glen Carbon, IL
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| Re: Crys :( said by Goosed :
"remote Verizon technician management"
This is the first thing I would want to disable.
If you want FIOS but don't want that, could you instead just get a dumb, simple modem and hook it up to your PC (if you only have one) or your (main) router? | |
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Premium
join:2008-02-01
united state | Re: Crys :( Nope. Modems won't do a thing on FiOS. If you want to use FiOS, either an Ethernet or MoCo enabled router. | |
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join:2008-02-01
united state
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July 23rd, @05:27PM
| Re: Crys :( Ultimately yes, there is no modem for FiOS. It goes Fiber right into your house, which hits an ONT which is like a modem, but not in the terms, and then the ONT either gives your router a connection via Ethernet or MoCa. You cannot take the ONT out of the equation what so ever, and if you want to replace it, you need to shell up a bit of money for one and you need to know how to install it properly, or Verizon will give you something such as a Tellabs or Motorola ONT. So ultimately, no modem, just router.
Also, unlike a modem most of the time, the ONT is a layer 2 device that cannot and does not respond to pings. All it does is convert light to digital data for the router to use. BUT, with FiOS, since the ONT gives your router ether Ethernet or MoCa data, if you are on Ethernet you could use Ethernet right to your PC from the ONT and either use a PPPoE dialer or simply let the PC get an IP since FiOS uses DHCP.
If you are in an MDU though, Verizon uses VDSL to service most people, unless it's new and they run ONTs to everyone and in that case, you can use any modem that does VDSL. | |
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sivran
God Save The Suite
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join:2003-09-15
Arlington, TX
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| Re: Crys :( quote:
If you are in an MDU though, Verizon uses VDSL to service most people, unless it's new and they run ONTs to everyone and in that case, you can use any modem that does VDSL.
As a former fios rep, I suspect those must be fairly rare or only exist in the Northeast, as neither I nor any of my cow-irkers eever encountered a setup like that.
As a former fios rep, if by some twist of fate Verizon took over my area and offered fios I would order only internet and I'd insist upon a Cat 5 run to my router. Those actiontec M142s are crap. I'd even be willing to pay an extra, one-time fee for such an install. I'd also connect the BBU to a store-bought UPS so that it wouldn't switch off during a power glitch. 
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NOCMan
Verizon Fios User
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join:2004-09-30
Flower Mound, TX
| This worries me. "Sir we can not contact your modem"
I do not use your equipment I have my own firewall.
"Well the problem then is with your equipment" click..
I hate having to plug their crap into the network for them to play with. | |
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join:2001-10-06
Pittsburgh, PA | No doubt... no "remote anything management"....especially by your ISP. | |
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join:2006-07-16
Bothell, WA | disable it, then you limit the ability of a tech to assist you over the phone & disallow automatic firmware upgrades. | |
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kleinml
join:2008-04-18
Levittown, PA
| Yeah well at least your not getting teased They ran the Fiber on the poles that service my house over a year ago. Signed the contract with my township for TV back in January and I still don't have it. Although last week I did see a bunch of Verizon Trucks down the street.
Oh PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE Get this turned on. | |
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jester121
join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL | About time... THIS is how hardware should be designed and deployed -- Verizon is certainly breaking the mold as far as the old phone company goes, and good for them. I hope they reap the profits and leave their competition with no choice but to follow. | |
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MoeDumb
"America Si, Obama No."
Premium
join:2002-09-23 | Re: About time... Hopefully Verizon'll hook one of them new hoses into their Billing Dept. | |
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smilepak
join:2002-02-27
Chino, CA | Interesting I just had FiOS installed over the weekend. I wonder if I got this new one or not. Can I call in and request for it I wonder... | |
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| ISurfTooMuch
join:2007-04-23
Tuscaloosa, AL | Re: Interesting The summary says the new routers will ship in August, so I seriously doubt it. | |
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Rockstick
@boeing.com | hhrrrmm remote Verizon technician management
This is the first thing I would want to disable | |
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Swingerhead
Premium
join:2004-04-06
Richmond, VA
 ·Verizon FIOS
·Comcast
| Info from Actiontec Points from Actiontecs press release.
»www.actiontec.com/products/view_···?nid=210
Model # MI424-WR
64-bit, dual core processor, 10-15% performance improvement over the 32-bit standard
hardware-level Quality of Service (QoS) with eight input channels and eight output channels. This innovative design frees the CPU for other bandwidth needs, and ensures that providers can deliver multiple high quality video streams without any dropped frames, frozen frames, or other performance issues that can degrade video and television service and impede IPTV adoption. | |
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Blueghost
join:2005-02-09
Carmel, NY | Who Gets Them? Is this for all FIOS customers or just new installs. | |
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danclan
join:2005-11-01
Midlothian, VA
·Verizon FIOS
| Ok the REAL Question is... Will the firmware be completely overhauled to allow your PC's to actually use the internet the way you want to.
And will the USB port be activated to allow USB hardrives and media sharing etc. etc....
If they truly did it right then the early users will few if any issues and wont have nat tables so small that a single user maxes it out....time will tell but this is a positive improvement.. | |
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| datwell1
join:2002-01-08
Falls Church, VA | Re: Ok the REAL Question is... YES!! +1 | |
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oneupdave
@rr.com | Why Oh Why... They promised to start rolling out in our area soon, and are even doing tests at a nearby town. I'd be willing to switch from paying $200+ to TWC to have everything (phone/tv/internet) with Verizon. Those boxes look pretty sweet. | |
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hayabusa3303
Over 200 mph
Premium
join:2005-06-29
clubs: | ok what about the OLD ones in use now are they going to replace those also? | |
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JonHB
join:2007-09-18
Huntington Beach, CA | Why not a new model number? You would think Actiontec would at least come up with a new model number to differentiate it from the old version. I'm liking the feature set of the Westell better. | |
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eric87m
join:2003-12-07
Princeton, NJ | nat table Uh... will they have a reasonable NAT table size this time? | |
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| Smith6612
Premium
join:2008-02-01
united state | Re: nat table They might, but with the added CPU power it may make the ActionTec if the NAT table is smaller not choke over things as much. But we shall see! | |
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| patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY | Re: can ethernet be used at all? Yes. But no TV then. | |
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Shrapnel64
Premium
join:2001-01-24
Hayes, VA | Re: can ethernet be used at all? Not true. Get the ONT authorized for Ethernet first, that way you can use your own router. MoCA can still be used as long as the modem/router is on the network. | |
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join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY | Re: can ethernet be used at all? I read it as the poster asking if FIOS ethernet can directly be plugged into a computer, with no router in the path. | |
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thefett
join:2001-02-05
Auburn, NY | xbox360 think this one will work on the xbox 360 out of the box? | |
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| cybercrimes
join:2003-12-24
Phoenixville, PA | Re: xbox360 i have the new router installed today. they came to replace the old router since the old one was nt working and the new one works on the xbox 360 | |
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VZ FiOS
@verizon.net
| Re: xbox360 said by cybercrimes :i have the new router installed today. they came to replace the old router since the old one was nt working and the new one works on the xbox 360 These routers arn't being deployed until Q3 so I highly doubt that you have the brand new router that is just being press released today. | |
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join:2003-12-24
Phoenixville, PA | Re: xbox360 i havw model no ml424wr | |
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TechieZero
Tools Are Using Me
Premium
join:2002-01-25
Wesley Chapel, FL
| The only thing you need to host for the XB360 is to forward 2 ports. »support.microsoft.com/kb/908874
In my XB, I manually assign both the gateway and its IP (NOT Automatic), then I forward the ports to the IP, regardless of the router/gateway you have.
It works solid everytime. | |
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cybercrimes
join:2003-12-24
Phoenixville, PA
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July 23rd, @08:05PM
| the new routers like i said earlyer i had them replace my old router since it was not working. and they gave me a new router model no MI42WR.think there starting early.. | |
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VZ FiOS
@verizon.net | Re: the new routers And what model was your previous router then? | |
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| cybercrimes
join:2003-12-24
Phoenixville, PA | i had the Actiontec before the switch | |
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smilepak
join:2002-02-27
Chino, CA | I have that right now! Interesting, I just checked the Actiontec when I got home and I am using the MI424-WR.... | |
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| loeakaodas
join:2005-01-31
Sarasota, FL
| Re: I have that right now! They both have the same model number, check the pics at the site, you probably have the old one just like me 
I'm thinking of replacing it with a Linksys WRT600N running DD-WRT though  | |
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