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Verizon To Release Broadband Uber Phone
Innovation, or another failed attempt to pretend landlines are interesting?
by Karl Bode Wednesday 21-Jan-2009 tags: dsl · business · hardware · alternatives · Op/Ed · content · networking · Verizon FiOS · Verizon Online DSL
Whispers along the endless corridors of the Internet indicate that Verizon is getting ready to launch a new broadband phone and home management system called the Verizon Hub on February 1. The system, which is supposedly stocked in Verizon stores and ready for launch, integrates smartphone-like functionality into a touchscreen device that links Verizon FiOS and Verizon Wireless phones. There's been chatter about this thing for years in our forums, with the device sporting a rumored price tag somewhere around $250.

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While the gadget blogs seem pretty excited, similar efforts to make the home phone more interesting (like the AT&T Home Manager and Qwest eGo systems) have been little more than embalming fluid for dying landline revenue dressed up as innovation. Such systems usually fail to offer functionality not delivered by wireless phones a fraction of the size. They're also usually over-priced.

Several years ago, Verizon unveiled "Verizon One," a device that integrated a DSL modem, 802.11g wireless router, 5.8 GHz cordless telephone and color touch screen into one product. It acted as the convergence message center for Verizon's iObi service, and while it strangely won some awards for innovation, journalist Dana Blankenhorn calling it "one of the dumbest machines I've ever seen" because it continued to push dying Verizon POTS and failed to support VoIP.

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With Verizon finally planning a serious push of VoIP services, the Verizon Hub would obviously prove more interesting than the One if it supports VoIP. It would be much more interesting should it include a femtocell, something Verizon is rumored to be deploying later this month at about the same price point as the Hub. The femtocell would allow you to route Verizon Wireless calls over your FiOS or Verizon DSL connection, reducing the strain on nearby Verizon Wireless cell towers.

If it's simply a glorified visual voicemail and digital picture frame POTS device, customer demand isn't going to be high. Such baby bell devices are usually too expensive for regular users, yet too clunky and uninteresting for true technophiles. Analysts recently criticized Verizon and AT&T for pretending to be innovation engines -- trying to be all things to all people instead of focusing on operating the best network possible. These home manager devices have traditionally been exhibit A for those criticisms, though perhaps the Verizon Hub will break the mold.

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en102
Canadian, eh?

join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA

Over priced... unflexible device

I'd be better off purchasing a Netbook for $200 and loading it with Skype or Magic Jack.

What they 'SHOULD' do... for $250 + ???/month

- Deploy something that looks like what they are selling
- Integrated WiFi (g/n)
- Integrated Webcam and Service
- Windows 7
- Internet service

I'd personally be worried about having anything connected to a telco with built in camera + microphone in my house that's tied to my phoneline
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Bellus_1

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Re: Over priced... unflexible device

The device is $250 to purchase, not $250 per month.

TomClancy
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Re: Over priced... unflexible device

Yeah, like they won't be charging you a service fee for that magic VoIP of theirs...

en102
Canadian, eh?

join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
As I put it .. $250 '+' ??? /month

You pay $250 for the device, and then have to pay a service fee to use it.

kamm

join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY
said by Bellus_1 :

The device is $250 to purchase, not $250 per month.
Forget that but WTF is that W7 and other BS? Like if people really want to rent a fuckin' OS, aye...

aaronwt
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WINDOWS 7??!!?

It's still in Beta.

said by en102:

I'd be better off purchasing a Netbook for $200 and loading it with Skype or Magic Jack.

What they 'SHOULD' do... for $250 + ???/month

- Deploy something that looks like what they are selling
- Integrated WiFi (g/n)
- Integrated Webcam and Service
- Windows 7
- Internet service

I'd personally be worried about having anything connected to a telco with built in camera + microphone in my house that's tied to my phoneline

en102
Canadian, eh?

join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA

Re: Over priced... unflexible device

Yeah - it had better still be Beta - I crashed one at the Microsoft exhibit at CES on opening day

PGHammer

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Accokeek, MD
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Windows 7 is in fact at beta 1, and is available to the public, right now.

»www.microsoft.com/windows/window···ult.aspx

Not many beta operating systems, even from Microsoft, are actually usable right out of the box; however, this is one of them. (I'm in fact posting this from beta 1 in a dual-boot with Vista; both are of the 64-bit flavor.)

Also, isn't the only reason you are primping Skype or magicJack due to their FAR lower prices compared to typical VoIP solutions (not just VZ's own VoiceWing, but Vonage)? Also, how do these non-traditional VoIP services handle E911 services? (Skype doesn't currently, and I've heard nit from any magicJack user concerning how they would handle it.)

With *all* VoIP services (not just magicJack and Skype, but even Vonage and VoiceWing), the old truism about getting what you pay for applies.

kamm

join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY

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said by en102:

I'd be better off purchasing a Netbook for $200 and loading it with Skype or Magic Jack.

What they 'SHOULD' do... for $250 + ???/month

- Deploy something that looks like what they are selling
- Integrated WiFi (g/n)
- Integrated Webcam and Service
- Windows 7
- Internet service

I'd personally be worried about having anything connected to a telco with built in camera + microphone in my house that's tied to my phoneline
Windows 7.... webcam... are you high?

WTF are you talking about?
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said by bicker:

Waaaa waaaa waaaa. You just want what you want and don't care to factor in what is right or true. Your perspectives are un-American, and deserve far more ridicule than I'm prepared to pile on them.
majortom1029

join:2006-10-19
Lindenhurst, NY
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wow

heck my att fuze is a phone, can play music, can search theful lweb over wifi.

How in the world will verizon get this sold when you can buy a cell phone?

kamm

join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY

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Re: wow

said by majortom1029:

heck my att fuze is a phone, can play music, can search theful lweb over wifi.

How in the world will verizon get this sold when you can buy a cell phone?
Ummm perhaps with a "real" mobile broadband aka 3G speeds instead of that pathetic PoS AT&T "3G" sub-1Mb crap?

AT&T's network is an utter PoS, period. It wasn't great before iTards flooded it either but it simply became pathetic after they flocked to AT&T - that's when I had enough and simply gave up on this complete and utter fake BS network AT&T dares to dub as 3G... if you want to see REAL mobile broadband, go to Europe.

AT&T is YEARS behind European and Asian networks, period. Too bad TMO was too stupid to build out its 3G in time so they ended up with their own frequency which no fuckin' manufacturer support whatsoever - now all we have is VZ and Sprint but only if you give up on traveling in GSM-countries (rest of the world) with your phone...
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said by bicker:

Waaaa waaaa waaaa. You just want what you want and don't care to factor in what is right or true. Your perspectives are un-American, and deserve far more ridicule than I'm prepared to pile on them.

TomClancy
Freedom isn't free

join:2003-04-23
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Re: wow

Yes, my thoughts exactly...

Romney2012
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This has been on the back burners since July of 2007

»www.zatznotfunny.com/2007-07/why···ht-work/

Read the comments over the last 18 months. Nothing has chgd - just more promises. Especially look at last one from this past December.
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Smile__
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Re: This has been on the back burners since July of 2007

Your right.. This was supposed to come out Feb 2008.. I guess they had the wrong year..

dvd536
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Verizon

Step one to an uber phone is NOT DISABLING BLUETOOTH AS SOON AS IT HITS YOUR NETWORK.
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Oh no

Please tell me they are not going to release those P('s)OS as a VoiP solution that's supposed to compete with the likes of vonage, and cable voip..... Verizon is slowly killing FIOS and making it look much more like AT&T's U-verse service... I can't see how they're going to be able to retain that $95 triple play price tag if the do..

Verizon has this way of not listening to their customers and going ahead with boneheaded ideas that don't pan out as well as they should (or Verizon would like, such as that attempt of cable-tv over dsl from then Bell Atlantic ~1996) so, add this one to the list.

I'm not saying the idea of a "smart" phone hub couldn't one day work & be popular.. but I think it's too soon and you need to get much more customer input before wasting your time and money on this. What would be better is creating an industry consortium consisting of both cable companies and telcos to create an interoperable platform upon which "smart" voip phones can happily coexist on your broadband connection via ethernet, wifi, or coax (docis).

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