Tomek Premium Member join:2002-01-30 Valley Stream, NY |
Tomek
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2014-Aug-18 3:32 pm
T-Mobile disrupted pricingI must say that it now looks quite more appealing, and almost cheaper than TMO | |
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Re: T-Mobile disrupted pricingsaid by Tomek:I must say that it now looks quite more appealing, and almost cheaper than TMO Almost, but not quite. T-Mobile gives you 3GB for $60/mo. and no overages. But, still: 2GB would be enough for either my wife or I, by far. Neither of us use even the 1GB each of 4G we have, now. Thing is: TMO lets us add a line for $10. This is an individual plan, at VZW, so it'd be $120, for the two of us, rather than $70. And I'm guessing the other goodies we get with TMO, VZW does not offer. Or they cost more $$$. Jim | |
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toby
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2014-Aug-18 3:54 pm
Re: T-Mobile disrupted pricingVZW's includes the phone subsidy, TMO doesn't.
VZW is cheaper if this is included. | |
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shmerl
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2014-Aug-18 3:59 pm
Re: T-Mobile disrupted pricingPhone subsidies will die out together with contracts and higher monthly rates. There is no reason for them to do subsidies if not for contract lock-in and recovering the cost with higher monthly plans. | |
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Yup, iphone 5s for $99 with unlimited talk/text and 2GB for $60. Works for me | |
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phone subsidies cost more for everyone. | |
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78036364 (banned)
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2014-Aug-18 8:58 pm
Re: T-Mobile disrupted pricingsaid by ArrayList:phone subsidies cost more for everyone. people CHOOSE to take subsidized phones. No one forces them to. | |
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Re: T-Mobile disrupted pricingYeah and I choose to go to Comcast for my High Speed Internet. It's not much of a choice. | |
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jaykresge to jseymour
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2014-Aug-18 11:21 pm
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I'm sorry, but your math is slightly off.
You're correct in that two lines on Verizon's new plan would be $120/mo. T-Mobile is different. It's not $10 per line. It's $30 for line #2, and $10 for each additional line. Secondly, you don't get the 3GB data per line at that cost. You still have to pay the extra fee. So...
$50 for first line $30 for second line $10 for each additional line +$10 per line for 3GB, +$20 per for 5GB, and +$30 for unlimited
So two lines and 3GB per is $100 ($50+30+10+10), not $70.
So your comparison is: T-Mobile = $100, 3GB per line, overage throttling Verizon = $120, 2GB per line, $15/GB overage
Also keep in mind that Verizon has a subsidy built in as well (see my separate post below). | |
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Freedompop 2 GB 4G, unlimited 3G, unlimited text and voice, $20. | |
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said by Tomek:I must say that it now looks quite more appealing, and almost cheaper than TMO $60 is what I currently pay for unlimited data and texts, and 450 voice minutes with Verizon. | |
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clone (banned)
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2014-Aug-18 4:13 pm
Re: T-Mobile disrupted pricingYou must have a generous corporate discount on voice/text service combined with a $20 data discount promo that was only offered for a few months back in 2010-2011. Most people aren't as lucky as us, the actual cost of that plan is around $90 before taxes/fees. | |
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said by aaronwt:said by Tomek:I must say that it now looks quite more appealing, and almost cheaper than TMO $60 is what I currently pay for unlimited data and texts, and 450 voice minutes with Verizon. The world doesn't revolve around unlimited data users arronwt. Why unlimited data users think everything Verizon does is about them is beyond me. This plan is clearly meant for those single line plans on Nationwide that currently have the 2 GB data plan. Verizon wants to move people to More Everything. instead of forcing them like they could have they are incentivizing them. Nationwide single line 450 minutes unlimited text 2 GB data $90 Nationwide single line 450 minutes 1000 texts 2 GB data $80 More Everything single line plan unlimited minutes/texting with 2 GB data $60. It's a no brainer to move over. | |
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2014-Aug-18 10:49 pm
Re: T-Mobile disrupted pricingsaid by Mr Guy :The world doesn't revolve around unlimited data users arronwt. Why unlimited data users think everything Verizon does is about them is beyond me. It's interesting that you as a new DLSR user always siding with Verizon. Kind of makes you wonder who butters your bread. Hope you read the article today how Verizon is effing all the copper folks over. I'm sure you have an excuse for that too. | |
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I have a corporate plan and my plan at 450 minutes and unlimited data is $88. How did you get it to 60? | |
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delusion ftl to Tomek
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2014-Aug-18 5:06 pm
to Tomek
This is a limited time offer. That means you need to jump on it asap and that after you've signed up for 2 years of service and not allowed to add any additional lines (without migrating to the expensive plans), you may not be allowed to get another subsidized device and continue on the plan (like how grandfathered data users are trapped).
VZW is confident in this because based on data growth projections, and the consumer profile of most of the people who sign up on just one line, will wind up eventually using more than 2GB often and busting into nice fat overages over the next couple years. | |
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78036364 (banned)
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2014-Aug-18 7:46 pm
Re: T-Mobile disrupted pricingsaid by delusion ftl :This is a limited time offer. That means you need to jump on it asap and that after you've signed up for 2 years of service and not allowed to add any additional lines (without migrating to the expensive plans), you may not be allowed to get another subsidized device and continue on the plan (like how grandfathered data users are trapped). What you can't have more than ONE line on a SINGLE line plan? How evil of Verizon! VZW is confident in this because based on data growth projections, and the consumer profile of most of the people who sign up on just one line, will wind up eventually using more than 2GB often and busting into nice fat overages over the next couple years. You do realize that on the old Nationwide plan the cheapest data plan is 2 GB. and that plan cost at least $80 a month. The next tier up on that plan is 5 GB which is $20 more. | |
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clone (banned)
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2014-Aug-18 8:28 pm
Re: T-Mobile disrupted pricingYou do realize that those $80-100 single line plans were ridiculously overpriced, even by Verizon's standards, and are now just coming back into line with the market, right? Oh, you know everything, I'm sure you knew that.
They are lowering their prices because single-lines are churning to T-Mobile and MVNOs in droves. They aren't being Mr. Nice Guy Verizon by lowering prices, they're trying to keep single-line folks from defecting en masse as they have been for years now. They have to do something to stem the hemorrhaging. | |
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78036364 (banned)
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2014-Aug-18 8:41 pm
Re: T-Mobile disrupted pricingsaid by clone:You do realize that those $80-100 single line plans were ridiculously overpriced, even by Verizon's standards, and are now just coming back into line with the market, right? Oh, you know everything, I'm sure you knew that.
They are lowering their prices because single-lines are churning to T-Mobile and MVNOs in droves. They aren't being Mr. Nice Guy Verizon by lowering prices, they're trying to keep single-line folks from defecting en masse as they have been for years now. They have to do something to stem the hemorrhaging. The main point of the new pricing is to get those people move from Nationwide to More Everything so they are not having 2 distinct plans. They are not losing customers. Look at their churn rate lower than T-Mobile's. If they get people to move over from different carriers or somehow get unlimited data customers to give up unlimited data those are side benefits. | |
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spewak
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2014-Aug-19 9:32 am
Re: T-Mobile disrupted pricingOh mr guy, T-Mobile is churning all those lines from Verizon, hence the offer. The mighty V would not be offering this if it were not so. | |
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said by clone :They aren't being Mr. Nice Guy Verizon by lowering prices, they're trying to keep single-line folks from defecting en masse as they have been for years now. They have to do something to stem the hemorrhaging. I'd love to be a fly on Verizon's wall and see the stats on how many folks are going to TMO because of the ETF promo. | |
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Re: T-Mobile disrupted pricingsaid by bbbc:said by clone :They aren't being Mr. Nice Guy Verizon by lowering prices, they're trying to keep single-line folks from defecting en masse as they have been for years now. They have to do something to stem the hemorrhaging. I'd love to be a fly on Verizon's wall and see the stats on how many folks are going to TMO because of the ETF promo. Well, they do notice. When I churned from Verizon to T-Mobile in April of this year, I got a call the next business day from Verizon with an offer to come back. Not a good offer but an offer nonetheless. This plan has existed for a while - it's the old "Loyalty Plan". After I left I put the wife on that since she's still on Verizon. | |
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Once you pay their overage, you will discover the difference. | |
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2014-Aug-18 3:33 pm
straight talkStraight talk offers this same exact plan on at&t for $20 less and no contract. | |
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Re: straight talk$15 less, they don't include a handset subsidy, and you can get that plan off-contract with VZW as well. Also, last I checked everyone except GoPhone has throttled H+ and LTE on AT&T, down to 51 and 8/1 Mbps respectively. With VZW this is a full-on postpaid plan so you can actually use AWS LTE (with its high speeds) if you want.
Not saying Straight Talk isn't a good deal. But this plan is 1GB of data and free music streaming away from T-Mobile's comparable plan, which is pretty impressive. | |
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Re: straight talkI actually have to agree with this, this verizon plan isnt to bad especially for those that love verizons coverage.. although the lack of international txt and data does suck.. but its not bad considering where they cover.. im still stickin to tmo though | |
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Being throttled down to 5/1 isn't that bad, especially if your cap is 2 GB. Heck, that could even be a selling point, it'd help you make your usage last longer. | |
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clone (banned)
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2014-Aug-18 6:42 pm
Re: straight talkI agree that 5/1 is a fine speed for a mobile connection.
But as for a selling point, I'm not sure. You could still blow through your 2GB cap in less than an hour. | |
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2014-Aug-18 4:16 pm
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They offer it on Verizon too...I pay $45 month for unlimited talk/text/data...well 3GB of 4G, then unlimited 2G speeds. Just have to get the right phone/SIM to get on Verizon through st. More data than direct with Verizon and no overages. Why should I pay more directly to Verizon for less & steep overage charges? Postpaid made sense before unlimited everything. I overpaid Verizon for years on postpaid plans. No more... | |
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$15 less - my AT&T service through Straight Talk is $45 plus taxes and fees. They might as well say $50 now as those taxes and fees now run that $45 service to $49.41. The plan now allows 3GB per month though. » www.straighttalkbyop.com/Event at $50, ST still remains a good contender for more bang for your buck... plus it is no-contract. | |
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2014-Aug-18 3:43 pm
VMUOr you could get Virgin Mobile, was has a $55 a month off contract plan for unlimited talk and text, and throttled data with no overages after 2.5GB. | |
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Told Ya!Last week (?), in a thread about Sprint giving up on Borging TMO, or maybe in a thread about Sprint saying they were going to get competitive this week, one of the Duopoly shills was beating the old "yeah, but if Sprint had been allowed to Borg TMO..." I said, at the time, that Sprint getting competitive would finally force VZW and "at&t" to action.
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amungus
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2014-Aug-18 3:47 pm
Giveth, and takethLooks like they got rid of the $50/mo. 1GB plan that used to be there, and pared it down to this plan *only* for single lines.
So much for my "loyalty" plan that was exactly this.
Really considering having T-Mo pay off my ETF, and then moving to Republic Wireless. | |
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Feeling the T-Mobile Squeeze Verizon?T-Mobile continues to bring the hurt... Keep it up! | |
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AT&T Go Phone offers more...Their prepaid offering at $60 offers up 500 MB more data than this and the overage fee is $5 cheaper as well. Still doesn't tempt me to jump onto Verizon for a phone. | |
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2014-Aug-18 4:22 pm
Oh Verizon...I bet Verizon made MILLIONS keeping their pricing up for the first 6-7 months of this year. I left for AT&T at the beginning of this year and could not be happier. If I were still with Verizon I would not be able to carry my OnePlus One | |
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Re: Oh Verizon...millions? try billions. | |
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Flycat
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2014-Aug-18 4:54 pm
Once again this site saves me moneyI had a $60/m plan with 1 gig of data, and as of today, the last day of the cycle I was 0.07 MB over the cap and looking at a +$15 fee.
A quick call had my plan raised to the 2 gigs and she was able to back date it, so I'm all set
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SysOp
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2014-Aug-18 7:55 pm
Many will overageWhat $70 monthly after fees
Go ahead and figure in that $15
$85ish?
Only if nothing else where you live, work or travel.
Still not leaving Metropcs for too little, too late. | |
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78036364 (banned)
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2014-Aug-18 7:59 pm
Re: Many will overagesaid by SysOp:What $70 monthly after fees Fees/taxes might be $6. IF that. Every phone plan by every carrier has taxes and or fees. Go ahead and figure in that $15
$85ish? Why? why would a person on a 2 GB plan going to a another 2 GB plan suddenly go over? You make ZERO sense. Only if nothing else where you live, work or travel.
Still not leaving Metropcs for too little, too late. You do realize a LARGE part of the US does not even live in Metro PCS territory. this plan wasn't designed for you. sigh. So many people fail to get what this plan is design for. | |
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??I'm still waiting to hear details of what SPRINT will do to lower prices.. this looks like $10 cheaper than VZ was offering this same plan not too long ago. Meanwhile, you can buy similar mvno plans with UNLIMITED and then throttled data instead of a hard cap... so why pay more-- when you can bring most handsets to these MVNO's these days... | |
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Jim_in_VA (banned)
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2014-Aug-18 9:41 pm
Stillcan't beat my Sprint SERO plan - unlimited everything for $50 | |
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78036364 (banned)
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2014-Aug-18 10:02 pm
Re: StillYep except the network sucks. Unlimited data is useless when you can use it or is slower than molasses in January during a polar vortex. | |
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I have this plan for 2 lines, but I only get 500 daytime minutes for landline calls. | |
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What a joke this isThis is a big ripoff joke Verizon has come up with. Who would be dumb enough to sign up for this. T-Mobile offers cellular plans that come with unlimited data usage with no overages at all. Verizon needs to follow in the foot steps of T-Mobile in terms of cost and united data with no overages. Even Sprint is going to be competing against T-Mobile or so they say. | |
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big jokeAnd we thought there would be disruptive pricing... what a stinky fart idea that turned out to be... and a regular fart... a whole diet of baked beans.. just a recycled "framily" deal... | |
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78036364 (banned)
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2014-Aug-19 9:34 am
Re: big jokeApparently math wasn't your best subject in school. Sprint's 20 GB plan is $50 a month cheaper than at&t or Verizon. I guess $50 is nothing to you. iIt is to a lot of people.
Also this is just the first in a series of changes. The new CEO has been in charge less than a week, give him a bit of time. geesh. | |
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Sprint must be feeling the heat tooSprint has now announced some new shared data plans also: It's a New Day for Data for American Consumers Sprint Doubles the DataSprint introduces new shared data plans that offer double the high-speed data at the same or lower price as compared to AT&T, T-Mobile and Verizon WirelessSprint Press Release - August 18, 2014 » newsroom.sprint.com/news ··· mers.htmquote: For a Family up to 10 lines, get 20GB of Shared Data and Unlimited Talk & Text for only $100 a month
It really doesn't matter if your family is 3, 5, or 10 people, you will get at least 20GB of shared data and your monthly charge will be $100
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