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| Re: It is about time The dual-headed launch of the Storm also explains the falling prices for the existing (especially CPO) BlackBerry 8803 (the Storm is also being launched across the Atlantic by VZW partner Vodaphone plc). The fact that it lacks Wifi is not a real issue (every VZW, or Vodaphone, BB already includes uncapped EVDO and a sync package for PCs). Throw in Rhapsody (the only real mobile competition to iTunes) and the Storm could indeed spell trouble for the iPhone monolith (especially if the Storm costs less). | |
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Camden, TN | Re: It is about time said by PGHammer: The fact that it lacks Wifi is not a real issue (every VZW, or Vodaphone, BB already includes uncapped EVDO and a sync package for PCs). Show me this on the Verizon site because I can't find it. I did find
"The Unlimited plans cannot be used: (1) for any applications that tether the device to laptops, PCs, or other equipment for any purpose, (2) for uploading, downloading or streaming of movies, music or games, (3) with server devices or with host computer applications other than the BlackBerry Enterprise Server, including, without limitation, Web camera posts or broadcasts, continuous jpeg file transfers, automatic data feeds, telemetry applications, automated functions or any other machine-to-machine applications, (4) as substitute or backup for private lines or dedicated data connections"
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| said by NY Tel:It is about time Verizon adds a "well built" touch screen phone to its lineup of phones. The Voyager was a pathetic attempt to compete with the iPhone. The Dare is a bit better but not quite there. Rim will produce a quality product and it will draw in a lot of people. Now if the Verizon Execs are reading this - they need to make sure they have ample of these phones in stock on day one and thereafter. I heard many complaints that when the Voyager was released, they had 3 of these phones in each store. Can't sell 'em if you don't stock 'em. Does anyone here know what the cost will be? | |
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Atlanta, GA | No Wi-Fi???? Serious, serious mistake. That makes it useless, in my opinion. Why on Earth would they produce an "advanced" phone that has everything except Wi-Fi?
Next!.... | |
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Huge mistake, RIM. The iPhone will eat that for lunch, when it comes to Verizon.
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Woodbridge, VA | Re: No Wi-Fi???? Well Verizon is the one that passed on the iPhone. They had the chance to be the exclusive seller of it, but passed. | |
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Boston, MA | Re: No Wi-Fi???? said by 33591094:Really? I did not know that. The telecommunication companies really are run by complete and utter morons, aren't they?
Actually, the main reason that Verizon passed on the iPhone is because of the amount of control that Apple wanted over the handset. For example, requiring the phone to be sent back to Apple for a battery replacement. Verizon wasn't willing to do that to their customers. | |
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| Re: No Wi-Fi???? said by MPScan:said by 33591094:Really? I did not know that. The telecommunication companies really are run by complete and utter morons, aren't they? Actually, the main reason that Verizon passed on the iPhone is because of the amount of control that Apple wanted over the handset. For example, requiring the phone to be sent back to Apple for a battery replacement. Verizon wasn't willing to do that to their customers. But in Hindsight, after the massive numbers of people that the iPhone brought to At&T, I would think Verizon would have made the changes if they had it to do over again. | |
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| | | | said by 33591094:The iPhone will eat that for lunch, when it comes to Verizon. The iPhone is not coming to verizon anytime soon, and one who believes it is coming, is an idiot.
In the contact that apple and AT&T have, AT&T has in there saying that apple can not make a CDMA version. | |
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Boston, MA | Re: No Wi-Fi???? said by dlewis23:said by 33591094:The iPhone will eat that for lunch, when it comes to Verizon. The iPhone is not coming to verizon anytime soon, and one who believes it is coming, is an idiot. In the contact that apple and AT&T have, AT&T has in there saying that apple can not make a CDMA version.
Yes, but that contract has an expiration, of I think 5 years, at which point Apple is free to produce a similar product for Verizon if both parties agree and AT&T can't do squat about it. | |
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kudos:12 | said by fuziwuzi:Serious, serious mistake. That makes it useless, in my opinion. Why on Earth would they produce an "advanced" phone that has everything except Wi-Fi? Next!.... Because WiFi sucks batteries? And if you have a BB with Verizon you already have an unlimited EVDO account?
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| Re: No Wi-Fi???? said by djrobx:said by Matt:Because WiFi sucks batteries? And if you have a BB with Verizon you already have an unlimited EVDO account? OK, but what do you do when you are in a poor coverage area? In LA, because of the terrain you can't count on cell coverage being great wheverver you go, no matter what provider you're on. If wifi is a battery drain you can always turn it off. Good example there. I get 2 bars in my house, sometimes 3 and am in Edge territory. Wifi on the iPhone gets me around 3.3 mbps download, so for me, wifi is crucial.
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Boston, MA | Re: No Wi-Fi???? That's because the AT&T network sucks ass. With the Verizon EVDO network, there isn't really a need for WiFi, at least in the Northeast, where their network is superior to any other carrier. | |
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| Re: No Wi-Fi???? said by MPScan:That's because the AT&T network sucks ass. With the Verizon EVDO network, there isn't really a need for WiFi, at least in the Northeast, where their network is superior to any other carrier. You are in Boston, I am in rural CT. Two totally different markets, chief.
My neighbor works at the Verizon store in Millbury, Ma. Great reception there, not so hot here.
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Madison, AL | You can't make those kind of generalizations. Here in MD (close to the Bay), there is minimal signal to be found in most of the residential areas of Anne Arundel County, despite relatively flat terrain. The odds of you getting EVDO coverage indoors is extremely slim. I myself can't get more than 1 bar of 1xRTT indoors, leading to numerous dropped calls and frequent hour+ text message delays. | |
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Warner Robins, GA | in my apartment even Verizon doesn't get coverage. So at least with wifi my iPhone can use Internet features. Plus wifi let's me control my apple tv and airport express/iPod hifi speakers in my bedroom using my iPhone as the remote. That feature wows guests all the time. Not having wifi is a mistake. Plus wifi is faster than evdo. | |
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join:2001-11-28
Wilmington, DE | That may have used to have been true but speaking as an iPhone 3G user, wifi used way less battery than 3G does and I really doubt EVDO gets that much better battery life than HSPA. | |
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| said by fuziwuzi:Serious, serious mistake. That makes it useless, in my opinion. Why on Earth would they produce an "advanced" phone that has everything except Wi-Fi? Next!.... Well think about it this way - with all Verizon Blackberries, you MUST have the data package and therefore have data access already available via EVDO and the BIS/BES server.
The Samsung SCH i760 PDA for Verizon has WIFI so there must be a good reason they left it off this phone but then again, I don't see them calling you or me for advice. They do what they want to do... | |
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|  chlenEthically ChallengedPremium
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Albany, NY | I dont get the need for wifi on these phones...
I dont have VZ, but I have sprint and data is unlimited. If EVDO on VZ is anything like Sprint then why have your phone cost more and suck up battery. My palm does just fine at 1.5mbit on average. HSPDA is nowhere as fast as EVDO on Sprint, so I get why you may want it there, but if you average 1.5mbit why do you need wifi? | |
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kudos:12 | Re: No Wi-Fi???? said by chlen:I dont get the need for wifi on these phones... I dont have VZ, but I have sprint and data is unlimited. If EVDO on VZ is anything like Sprint then why have your phone cost more and suck up battery. My palm does just fine at 1.5mbit on average. HSPDA is nowhere as fast as EVDO on Sprint, so I get why you may want it there, but if you average 1.5mbit why do you need wifi? You're exactly right. My old XV6700 had WiFi, but since I had unlimited EVDO I NEVER used the WiFi ... EVDO worked great everywhere I went.
When I did use the WiFi, it ate my batteries for lunch.
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| | fuziwuziNot born yesterdayPremium
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Atlanta, GA | What's your "cap" on that EVDO or HSPDA? With Wi-Fi I'd not have to bother wondering if I'm going to hit the limit on that "unlimited" data plan.
A smartphone without Wi-Fi is just a dead duck, IMHO. | |
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kudos:12 | Re: No Wi-Fi???? said by fuziwuzi:What's your "cap" on that EVDO or HSPDA? With Wi-Fi I'd not have to bother wondering if I'm going to hit the limit on that "unlimited" data plan. A smartphone without Wi-Fi is just a dead duck, IMHO. Who in the hell uses more than 5GB a month via their PDA phone? I have Activesync email PUSH phone and I rarely use more than 50MB a month. And I get a boatload of email.
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Albany, NY | said by fuziwuzi:What's your "cap" on that EVDO or HSPDA? With Wi-Fi I'd not have to bother wondering if I'm going to hit the limit on that "unlimited" data plan. A smartphone without Wi-Fi is just a dead duck, IMHO. no cap that I know off...but I only have 4gb of space on my phone, how much do you think you can DL into a phone?
When I use my phone as a modem, I download movies onto my laptop...with Sprint never saw a cap.
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Verizon has a history of shutting down things like this because it might take away from their revenue stream. No Wi-Fi makes it easier to say no.
Blackberry I think will be having a difficult time in the near future. | |
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join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA | The phone is rather large as it were, with GSM, HSDPA, CDMA, EV-DO, and GPS already in there- it was probably left out because of size considerations more than anything else (as it were half the comments I see about this thing elsewhere are "lol itz huge")
In any case, who uses their cell-phone at home anyway? Especially considering that VZW doesn't offer any sort of UMA service, which might I guess be useful if you wanted to drop the landline and got poor coverage at home.
I don't think this was a VZW order, though, because the Vodafone Storm 9500 doesn't have WiFi either. Vodafone even carries the One Holy iPhone in some markets, so I don't think they have anything against WiFi. | |
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| Re: No Wi-Fi???? said by EPS:The phone is rather large as it were, with GSM, HSDPA, CDMA, EV-DO, and GPS already in there- it was probably left out because of size considerations more than anything else (as it were half the comments I see about this thing elsewhere are "lol itz huge") It has almost the same footprint as an iPhone widthwise, and it isnt as long as an iPhone.. And its a lil over 1.5mm thicker than the iPhone.. Why is everyone saying its huge?
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Hingham, MA | Re: No Wi-Fi???? It might be an optical illusion thing from the shape? The iPhone has curved edges which make it look thinner, while this seems to have sharper edges on the sides. | |
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Wilmington, DE | said by EPS:In any case, who uses their cell-phone at home anyway? Especially considering that VZW doesn't offer any sort of UMA service, which might I guess be useful if you wanted to drop the landline and got poor coverage at home. I for one do. A land line is a waste of money and these days I'm on the internet twice as much on my phone as I am on my computer | |
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kudos:12 | I think everyone is missing the point. WiFi doesn't matter to the intended audience for this device. They are not trying to compete head-to-head with the iPhone. They want the biz market and those folks don't care about WiFi.
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|  macedonJazz me babyPremium
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Ashburn, VA | Nice I'm anxious to see how this holds up mechanically. When my Sprint contract expires next spring, I may switch to Verizon and grab this new phone. Right now this would be my top choice in a phone, pending other new releases in the near future. | |
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| | | Re: Nice said by jmn1207:I'm anxious to see how this holds up mechanically. When my Sprint contract expires next spring, I may switch to Verizon and grab this new phone. by next spring it may very well be released on Sprint also. | |
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Ashburn, VA | Re: Nice From what I read earlier, this is an exclusive device with Verizon, provided they can sell a million units in a certain time period. (year?) It potentially could be a much longer wait before it shows up in Sprint's lineup. And with the Samsung Instinct in play at Sprint, I don't see them pushing the issue to hard.
But I would certainly prefer to keep my Sprint service if it were available by next March, when my 2 year contract is up.
Almost grabbed a Curve today while doing some research. Sprint is offering a $370 instant savings plus $100 mail-in rebate with a free second phone line. If it was not such a hassle, I was considering cancelling my current phone and paying the $200 early termination fee just to take advantage of the new phone/new plan discounts on a Blackberry Curve. Even with the early termination penalty, it would be a bigger savings than the $75 upgrade discount I currently get by legitimate means. The only kicker, that ultimately stopped me, was the headache in trying to get my existing phone number transferred to the new device. | |
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| | hands on i actually work for vzw and today one of my good buddies, who is a data trainer had the storm... i must say at first i was like meh... touch screen... i will stick to my 8830, but after a good 5 mins i was in love. the phone is amazing, and the entire wifi argument ? its getting old. and our 3g coeverage is fast enough for me on a mobile device. thats my two cents | |
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| Re: hands on said by vzw switch tech :i actually work for vzw and today one of my good buddies, who is a data trainer had the storm... i must say at first i was like meh... touch screen... i will stick to my 8830, but after a good 5 mins i was in love. the phone is amazing, and the entire wifi argument ? its getting old. and our 3g coeverage is fast enough for me on a mobile device. thats my two cents Great, but for people who are in a poor coverage area where they live wifi is needed.
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I have been in several places where the Verizon data was either very slow or non-existent and was able to use WiFi and surf, make VoIP calls, and I even uploaded edited files to a customer's website!
Not having WiFi is not old, it is ridiculous NOT to have it! | |
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Greer, SC | no wifi = stupid Sorry, but the lack of wifi is just archaic. | |
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| | | Re: no wifi = stupid Completely, not so. The lack of WiFi is so VZ can nickel and dime you to death and limit your use.
I use Skype Out, VoiP, VNC, and Sling over WiFi daily.
Also WiFi is quite a bit faster than even a good 3G connection!
Verizon has made a habit of removing WiFi of almost all their phones! The same Blackberry on AT&T and Sprint will have WiFI, on Verizon it is removed!
If it lacks WiFi is is NOT so smart for a smartphone. | |
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join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA | Re: no wifi = stupid No Sprint Blackberrys have WiFi, so sorry to burst your bubble.
As far as I know RIMM has never made a Blackberry with both WiFi and GPS. | |
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| | Maybe a New Phone for Me I am impressed with the propaganda being released about the Storm. My 8830 is due for replacement in January 2009 and I figure by then some of the issues will either be known or fixed in the Storm. I noticed that Verizon Wireless is advertising "built in GPS" and I made a copy of the ad if another class action lawsuit pops up.
So I am looking at the Storm as a replacement and will be watching to see if any fatal problems surface. In other words, its for Verizon and RIM to lose. | |
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| | Nice try, still no iPhone The Storm looks like a step toward the iPhone, but no killer by any means. No multi-touch, no WiFi, and lacks a lot in the syncing and media player as compared to iPhone.
The App Store has many choices, many are free. There is voice recording, voice dialing apps, to do apps, tons of games, GPS apps, Music apps like Pandora, Last.fm, Simplify Media, FlyCast, VNC, with many free apps.
There are several inexpensive battery add-ons that simply connect to the dock connector that make not having a removable battery irrelevant. In the middle of a call you can snap on the extended battery that will recharge and extend usage without even stopping. Some samples here: »www.reelsmart.com/2008/10/08/iph···tenders/
Verizon has as usual killed off many useful features. The iPhone has WiFi the Storm does not, This is a deal killer for me as I use Skype Out voice calling on WiFi in my home and at hotspots all the time. Fring a FREE app in the App Store is all you need. Fring also allows for SIP based VoIP calling as well as IM for AIM, Yahoo, MSN, etc. They also make you pay $10 a month for turn by turn directions! The App Store has well over 4,000 apps now.
Call me fanboy if you like, but I also have a Blackberry Curve and the iPhone wipes it out in almost all areas. A Touch screen is nice, BUT if it is NOT multi-touch and this will seriously limit the quality of the apps that can run out it.
The iPhone Media player is an iPod (best there is right now). Syncing media with Windows or a Mac is flawless, again not so with the Blackberry. | |
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Morrisville, NC | Could lack of WIFI be security related? I know RIM has done things with may of the Blackberry models over the years to ensure they stay locked down since many of their big customers like the government and big businesses want it that way. I can see someone thinking WIFI might be abig security hole.
Also, they will have a hard time with women adopting these touchscreen phones until they can make one work with fingernails. My wife loves the idea of the iPhone, but can;t stand to use mine for much more than quick browsing due to not being able to type well. On her full keyboard Blackberry she can type about as fast as many people can on a computer. (she can't stand the 2 letter per key BBs though) | |
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join:2001-08-24
Boston, MA | said by LeeWL:I know RIM has done things with may of the Blackberry models over the years to ensure they stay locked down since many of their big customers like the government and big businesses want it that way. I can see someone thinking WIFI might be abig security hole. Agreed. That's part of the reason that cameras only started appearing on Blackberry's recently. RIM intentionally left the camera off the phone since many organizations and the government specifically prohibit employees from carrying such devices, and they certainly wouldn't roll them out on the enterprise level. | |
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| | | | Re: Could lack of WIFI be security related? said by MPScan:said by LeeWL:I know RIM has done things with may of the Blackberry models over the years to ensure they stay locked down since many of their big customers like the government and big businesses want it that way. I can see someone thinking WIFI might be abig security hole. Agreed. That's part of the reason that cameras only started appearing on Blackberry's recently. RIM intentionally left the camera off the phone since many organizations and the government specifically prohibit employees from carrying such devices, and they certainly wouldn't roll them out on the enterprise level. Couldn't they have disabled the cameras via BES policies? | |
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WiFi makes 3g look like dialup. And someone said "Who uses there cell phone for internet at home anyway?", Most anyone who has wifi does. Look.. Sure 3g is nice but it is NOT even close to wifi. And numbers like 1.3g connection means nothing what the packet loss is skyhigh like most 3g connections. If those numbers meant as much as some of these people claim, then lets talk about how at&t 3g is actually faster than EVDO.
No need to wait anymore. Chaulk up another iphone sale to me. | |
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| | wheres the keyboard Wait a minute. Didnt most apple bashers slam the iphone for no physical keyboard? Now suddenyl its ok because someone else does it and not even a mention?
And as far as wifi draining battery life... Why is it not a problem for the iphone. In all the side by side comparisions for battery life the iphone wins against most anything out.
This thing is a fail. | |
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If not, then the only competitor against the I-phone is the Google Android. | |
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| RickNYPremium
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Can you write and install programs for this "Storm"?
Uh, yes.. There are a huge number of applications for the Blackberry platform -- more than what is currently available for the iPhone and Android combined. They have a developer SDK available, and its been around for a while.. Unlike Apple which went for consumer markets first, and then tried to woo business customers, RIM has always been about business and enterprise needs -- and is just recently starting to make their devices more attractive to general consumers -- and doing a great job in doing so. There's a reason why Blackberry has the highest share of smartphone sales in the country -- by a big margin too (RIM has 41% of the US Smartphone market.. Apple has 28%). Worldwide, Nokia dominates with RIM in 2nd. | |
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join:2003-08-11
Hilliard, OH | Re: Competition? those marketshare numbers are far from impressive. Apple has one model with one carrier (and only for half this year) and yet can hit 65% of RIM's #'s across all carriers and with multiple models???? | |
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Even with the iPhone, AT&T still forces you to get a data plan (WiFi capable or not). | |
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I just don't understand why they didn't want Wi-Fi on the 9530. I do know that the 9500, which is the all GSM version, will have Wi-Fi. It doesn't make sense to me. | |
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join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA | Re: AT&T? Only if it doesn't meet some undisclosed sales target relating to the VZW/Vodafone exclusivity agreement. (I don't know if it relates to the worldwide sales through VZW and VOD, or if it's on a country-by-country basis.)
An unlocked Vodafone Storm 9500 should work on the at&t network, though, but you'd have to buy it overseas- it seems like Canada will be getting this on CDMA as well (with both Bell and Telus since there's no Canadian Vodafone affiliate) | |
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| | Verizon Unveils Blackberry Storm First Nortel then Bre-x now Research in Motion. Will the rest of the world ever learn. Do they need a building to fall on them? | |
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| | T-Mobile hot spot? Is T-Mobile (my carrier) the only company so far who has WiFi phones that can be used for voice over WiFi? For $10 per month I can use my BlackBerry 8120 for unlimited free calling anytime over my home WiFi or any other open Wifi anywhere I go! Cool thing is if I start my conversation at home on my WiFi and leave my home it will switch to cell network and still won't deduct from my plan minutes. | |
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It is about time
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