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verizon lte prices???does anyone have a clue as to when verizon lte prices will be released? with clearwire throttling users, verizon lte may look like a great alternative. | |
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2010-Nov-8 10:13 am
Specs & photos of the Droid ProAll the Specs: » www.motorola.com/Consume ··· S-EN.altMEMORY up 2 GB on board, 2 GB microSD pre-installed
NETWORKS 800/1900 CDMA EVDO Rev. A with diversity antenna, 850/900/1800/1900MHz GSM, GPRS Class 12, EDGE Class 12, 850/1900/2100 WCDMA (category 9/10), HSDPA 10.2mbps, HSUPA 5.76mbps
PROCESSOR 1GHz TI OMAP
ACCELEROMETER Yes
REMOVABLE MEMORY supports up to 32 GB microSD
SENSORS Proximity, ambient light and eCompass
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2010-Nov-8 10:17 am
Re: Specs & photos of the Droid ProOk for business users traveling internationally, but otherwise it's kind of a yawn IMO given VZ's Droid lineup. | |
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2010-Nov-8 10:27 am
Re: Specs & photos of the Droid Prosaid by openbox9:Ok for business users traveling internationally, but otherwise it's kind of a yawn IMO given VZ's Droid lineup. Yes, this is aimed at enterprise users and is an attempt to steal business away from RIM & their Blackberries. Here is a review of the Droid Pro and it's Blackberry fighting potential: » www.slashgear.com/the-dr ··· 6106116/Android has been slow to be adopted by enterprise IT departments and Motorola has specifically added levels of security and engineered software enhancements to Android in order for it to meet the requirements to be adopted by IT departments.
I love statistics and Motorola shared some statistics that I thought were interesting. They shared that 54% of BlackBerry users were interested in switching to a different platform. They also shared that 33% of BlackBerry users are interested in switching to an Android device.
I still dont count RIM down and out even if Android can make in roads to IT, however RIM will need to put a lead foot on the innovation pedal is they want to stay competitive.
Things to Watch
- Are the corporate tweaks to Android Motorola made enough - Is the hardware innovative enough to entice BlackBerry consumers to switch - How will RIM respond to the threat of Android - When it comes to corporate environments will the iPhone continue to make a push - Are corporations ready to support multiple smart phone platforms | |
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2010-Nov-8 10:44 am
Re: Specs & photos of the Droid Proanswers to "things to watch" -almost. some are not as reliable in the field as RIM's (from what I've read, remote wipe is flaky sometimes) -yes, hardware is at least on par, and better in some cases -who knows -don't care -my head asplode All I know is that we have 80+ Blackberry users here now. Switching everyone would be wasteful as we have an investment in BES + licenses. 2 Droid users as well. The management capabilities of BES are nice. AFIK, there really is no comparison to other platforms - Android relies on Exchange - management for mobiles on that front is still limited in comparison to BES... Two main things - remote wipe, and contact lookup, however, are now on 2.2. That is huge. Those are two very key features to compete with RIM's world. If it can be proven as reliable, more will switch. Pretty sure Exchange '07 (or newer) is required to use these features (at LEAST the remote wipe). Don't have that here, which would be another expense. For those that already do, adding Android phones would be easier. Also, unless you specifically deny through AD, any user can set up their own phone. Not only is this a little scary, it's a little crazy. Granted, most can barely figure out their smartphone, but the risk is still there unless every user is explicitly denied OMA in AD. ...Blackberries can also tie in without BES even more easily... and without need for OMA (denying it probably wouldn't stop a Blackberry user from getting email on their phone). | |
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Until Google (or a 3rd party vendor) deploys a backend remotely as capable as BES and not tied to Google's cloud, I don't see Android making a serious push into the enterprise any time soon. | |
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2010-Nov-8 11:07 am
Re: Specs & photos of the Droid Prosaid by openbox9:Until Google (or a 3rd party vendor) deploys a backend remotely as capable as BES and not tied to Google's cloud, I don't see Android making a serious push into the enterprise any time soon. An upcoming seminar on this very topic: » circ.ziffdavisenterprise ··· ase.html | |
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2010-Nov-8 12:33 pm
Re: Specs & photos of the Droid ProThanks, I may try to check that out | |
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you also forget that BES is also a hosted option and you can download the server free of charge from RIM. | |
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2010-Nov-8 8:46 pm
Re: Specs & photos of the Droid ProWhat makes you think I forgot anything? I don't believe hosted options are viable for a lot of corporations. Free is only free for so long. Eventually a cost will be realized. The fact that Android doesn't have a backend even remotely capable as RIM's BES is a major limitation for a lot of businesses that may be looking at options other than RIM. | |
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Re: Specs & photos of the Droid Prodid i say taht it was an option for corporations? NOPE! i said you forgot that it was free and a hosted option. And why not being hosted? More and more companies are moving to Google for Hosted Apps and email. phone backends can be done the same way. It not only cuts down on the IT staff but saves $$$ in the long run by not running your own data center for it. | |
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2010-Nov-10 5:59 am
Re: Specs & photos of the Droid ProWhen large businesses and governments start trusting Google, then they can move to hosted services. Until then, most of them will continue throwing money at RIM and paying their IT staffs. | |
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Re: Specs & photos of the Droid Proagain; nobody said anything about the gov't trusting google. And many large businesses do trust google. Ever hear of Google Apps for Education and Business? It's dirt cheap for them compared to using Exchange or any other mail server on their campuses.
But as far as Google taking over RIM for business; that will never happen. | |
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2010-Nov-10 3:33 pm
Re: Specs & photos of the Droid ProWe've gotten way off track. So you agree that businesses will continue dancing with RIM? After all, that is where this whole conversation began. | |
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Does anyone know what the battery life is?? | |
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2010-Nov-8 10:39 am
Re: Specs & photos of the Droid Prosaid by BravoGolf:Does anyone know what the battery life is?? » www.motorola.com/Consume ··· S-EN.alt
All talk and standby times are quoted in Digital Mode, and are approximate. Battery performance depends on network configuration, signal strength, operating temperature, features selected, and voice, data and other application usage patterns.
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Re: Specs & photos of the Droid ProDivide those numbers by 2 to get something closer to real world performance.... | |
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Eww a Motorola. | |
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TerribleThat phone looks terrible. Needs full screen. | |
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2010-Nov-8 10:36 am
Re: TerribleIt would probably work better with a slider screen to cover the keys. The smaller footprint may have been attractive to some. As it is now, it looks like a slider phone that is permanently locked open, when viewing from the front. | |
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This is aimed at enterprise, and part of the "appeal" is probably the BlackBerry look... The slider, full touchscreen aspects may not be enterprise grade. This to me, looks like a drop in replacement for black berry users, if the software side of the phone (android) meshes with the enterprise needs. | |
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Re: Terriblesaid by TuxRaiderPen:This is aimed at enterprise, and part of the "appeal" is probably the BlackBerry look... The slider, full touchscreen aspects may not be enterprise grade. This to me, looks like a drop in replacement for black berry users, if the software side of the phone (android) meshes with the enterprise needs. *sigh* Some people just don't get it. It's not the "look" of the phone, it's the OS. Sure, it "looks" like a BlackBerry, but it doesn't function like one. Me, I'll stick with the Droid2 (when we switch). I like the higher resolution display. I need it for SSH'ing into remote servers and adding/changing users and passwords and tweaking settings. Even then, It's still a learning curve from Windows Mobile 6.5.x (EnergyROM) to Android 2.1 (or 2.2) for me. I could imagine me switching from WM6.5 to a BlackBerry. *shrug* | |
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Re: Terrible*sigh* - Some people just don't get IT implementation. I never said it was solely the look of the phone that matters. I said, "part of the appeal" - which translates to "one more thing to ease the learning curve". The first thing users see, is the "look" - you get to deal with "does this work for us" - they are end users remember, not you from the IT vantage point.
I would rather not have to reteach users how to work a device with functionality partially ingrained. i.e. Looks like a Blackberry/Palm, so you don't teach how to use a touchscreen keyboard etc... It just gives you more options. | |
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Re: Terriblesaid by TuxRaiderPen:I would rather not have to reteach users how to work a device with functionality partially ingrained. i.e. Looks like a Blackberry/Palm, so you don't teach how to use a touchscreen keyboard etc... It just gives you more options. Of course, they can't make it look even close to the BlackBerry interface, unless they're prepared to be sued by RIM. Either way, you'll have to teach the new users how to use it. If they're familiar with Android, it lessens the headache. | |
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said by TuxRaiderPen:This is aimed at enterprise, and part of the "appeal" is probably the BlackBerry look... The slider, full touchscreen aspects may not be enterprise grade. This to me, looks like a drop in replacement for black berry users, if the software side of the phone (android) meshes with the enterprise needs. Exactly. The keyboard looks so much like the keyboard on my Blackberry Bold, one wonders why RIM didn't release this phone instead of Motorola.... I love the speed with which I can type on my BOLD keyboard. I cannot type nearly as fast on the keyboard of my wife's Droid2 so I would consider this phone. | |
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2010-Nov-8 11:34 am
Roaming in EuropeI wonder what the roaming price will be for using this thing out of country? You'll probably end up with a $10,000 bill. | |
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2010-Nov-8 11:47 am
Re: Roaming in Europesaid by mix:I wonder what the roaming price will be for using this thing out of country? You'll probably end up with a $10,000 bill. Not if you buy a plan BEFORE you use the phone overseas. | |
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Well, that's the whole point of the GSM component. You can use your own SIM overseas. | |
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2010-Nov-8 11:37 am
Resolution...320x480? My original touch pro was 480x640, and just about every new phone is 800x480 or 854x480. This is the same crappy resolution as the old iphones... | |
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2010-Nov-8 11:46 am
On sale Nov 18; but preorders start Tues Nov 9» news.cnet.com/8301-13506 ··· 1_3-0-20The Motorola Droid Pro will be available for preorder starting tomorrow, Verizon Wireless announced today.
According to the carrier, customers will be able to preorder the smartphone at Verizon Wireless stores or on the company's Web site. | |
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2010-Nov-8 12:26 pm
Its about the keyboard...I don't know about anyone else here, but I know a fair share of people that swear by a blackberry for its keyboard... and nothing else. Of course I'm talking about non business people that don't actually care about any of the enterprise features. Lets face it, as a personal phone, the blackberry is lacking, especially when it comes to the OS. I know several people who were about to renew their phones with a new Curve and will now heavily consider this phone, simply because of the keyboard type. Motorola is filling out their Verizon android lineup quite well with a different phone for every taste. Seems to be a better strategy than say HTC, whose phones alot of the time don't differ that much in styles and features. | |
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2010-Nov-8 12:32 pm
Non Camera VersionThe only good thing I see about this new Droid is that they are finally making a non camera version for us people who work for the government and can't have cameras. | |
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Re: Non Camera VersionIt has a 5MP camera....but not an 8MP like its earlier brothers (Droid 2 and Droid X). Isn't this the Droid World Phone? Or they just called it the 2. Will they have a 2X? Pro 2X ? | |
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2010-Nov-10 11:07 am
Yep, it's a world phone (GSM/CDMA) and it will come in two models from Verizon, one with the camera and one without. Of course Verizon will stick a premium price on the the non-camera version..."pay more for less" that's their motto. | |
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What a jokeLook at that keyboard... better have real small pointy thumbs! lol
I have been with "smartphones" from the beginning, Treo 180, 360, Compaq 3650 with Data link to candy bar, Samsung i700, i730, HTC 6800 and now the Incredible. After using the Incredible's on screen keyboard... I'm never going back to a space consuming, weight adding performance sucking slide out or built in keyboard, there is no comparison IMO.
2Gb of onboard?
My Incredible has 8Gb... how is this progress or improvement?
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$180= FREEYou can get this free if you know where to get it from. | |
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2010-Nov-8 3:27 pm
Re: $180= FREEOkay, I will bite... how do you get it FR$$?? | |
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Re: $180= FREEwww.letstalk.com all phones are cheaper using them than ordering direct through the carrier. Even the EVO and the Epic. And take this, I have the Storm2 VZ wanted about 150 for it. I went to letstalk.com ordered the same phone and got it $0. free activation, free shipping and all. VZ wanted me to pay $35 for activation and gave free shipping; but still wanted cash for the device.
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2010-Nov-8 3:08 pm
waiting for unlock...I'm waiting for the unlock. Then I can use this on Verizon & AT&T 3G T-Mobile 2G. It has the AT&T 3G frequencies. Yay! | |
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Re: waiting for unlock...pay full price just to unlock it? yah...that's what google thought of to being with and we know how that went. | |
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