Noah VailOh God please no. Premium Member join:2004-12-10 SouthAmerica |
You can't buy preference out of thin airYou can only get to the head of the line by pushing someone else further down the queue.
So pay or get pushed back.
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FFH5
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2011-Nov-3 9:00 am
Re: You can't buy preference out of thin airsaid by Noah Vail:You can only get to the head of the line by pushing someone else further down the queue.
So pay or get pushed back.
NV The Golden Rule appears again. Those who have the Gold rule. | |
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bobny1
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2011-Nov-3 8:55 pm
Re: You can't buy preference out of thin airLOL..Here we go with the 1% again! | |
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| tshirt Premium Member join:2004-07-11 Snohomish, WA |
to Noah Vail
so in phase 2, you get to bid against everyone else for the limited bandwidth in a given location. phase 3 is bidding to cut others bandwidth.
I guessing that people won't be 2 suprized when the find out that the billing computer can make your connection appear to be congested (to up your bidding)even if you are alone on the cell. | |
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LifeKind of like it is now. If you are rich you can get everything you want. If you are poor you get stepped on. | |
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thegeek Premium Member join:2008-02-21 right here |
thegeek
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2011-Nov-3 8:51 am
$$$Why do I get the feeling that Verizon is also cooking up a way to artificially create congestion? And slowing build out at the same time?
This will likely become a new standard in the industry as 90% of consumers will just open their wallets. | |
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Smith6612 MVM join:2008-02-01 North Tonawanda, NY |
What happens if...There are too many users trying to Turbo Boost their connection on the same tower? Well then I guess it's back to Square one! | |
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| EvelKubKitty is crazy Premium Member join:2002-03-17 Mesa, AZ |
EvelKub
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2011-Nov-3 9:07 am
Re: What happens if...Maybe you can hit that "speed up" button more than once... and each press increases your priority one point. | |
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Re: What happens if...True for both of the replies | |
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to EvelKub
...and your fees! What a grand revenue engine for VZ! | |
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| thegeek Premium Member join:2008-02-21 right here |
to Smith6612
said by Smith6612:There are too many users trying to Turbo Boost their connection on the same tower? Well then I guess it's back to Square one! 1. Verizon introduces Super Turbo Boost 2. ??? 3. Profit | |
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| jmn1207 Premium Member join:2000-07-19 Sterling, VA |
to Smith6612
If it is being overused, they will simply increase the fee for this feature. This is a great way to increase prices on their service without having to invest additional resources into the infrastructure.
Eventually, I see a bunch of small wireless companies starting up with very localized coverage, but perhaps with high speeds and unlimited bandwidth. I will have to use the local device when I am at home or work, and a separate carrier like AT&T or Verizon when I travel. This would be a modified version of how most use WiFi with 3G/4G service now, only that 4G will take over as a broader-ranged "WiFi-like" service in your immediate area.
Maybe 10 years? | |
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| dvd536as Mr. Pink as they come Premium Member join:2001-04-27 Phoenix, AZ |
to Smith6612
said by Smith6612:There are too many users trying to Turbo Boost their connection on the same tower? Well then I guess it's back to Square one! And no refunds! | |
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jjeffeoryjjeffeory join:2002-12-04 Bloomington, IN
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Network NeutralityDoesn't this violate network neutrality somehow? | |
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tshirt
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2011-Nov-3 9:10 am
Re: Network Neutralitysaid by jjeffeory:Doesn't this violate network neutrality somehow? Doesn't apply to wireless...only maybe sort of applies to wired | |
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Re: Network NeutralityOh yea, that sounds like correct information. Ugh. The wireless bill is already more than the cable/internet bill from the same company. | |
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Re: Network Neutralityverizon wireless != verizon | |
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| | | | Noah VailOh God please no. Premium Member join:2004-12-10 SouthAmerica |
Re: Network Neutralitysaid by ArrayList:verizon wireless != verizon Well... said by VzWiki :Verizon Wireless, is one of the largest mobile network operators in the United States.
Headquartered in Basking Ridge, New Jersey, the company is a joint venture of Verizon Communications and Vodafone, with 55 and 45 percent ownership respectively. Verizon Wireless is majority owned by Verizon. NV | |
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asdfdfdfdfdf to jjeffeory
Anon
2011-Nov-3 12:00 pm
to jjeffeory
This is exactly the sort of thing that net neutrality advocates were trying to keep from happening and this is exactly why net neutrality principles should have been applied to wireless as well, especially given that the bells have given up interest in wireline and are focusing almost exclusively on wireless. This is also another reason why we should not delude ourselves into believing that wireless is a viable substitute for wireline. We have created the wrong kind of incentives in america and it leads to this sort of "innovation". | |
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spewakR.I.P Dadkins Premium Member join:2001-08-07 Elk Grove, CA |
spewak
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2011-Nov-3 9:09 am
Using the Airlines' model nowDbags! Pay us for this, pay us for that. I know, users choice. | |
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Re: Using the Airlines' model nowNo, the airline model is much different. Though its largely their own fault, airlines NEED to charge for this and that because their costs are extraordinarily high and there is *without doubt* an additional cost to them when you lug a suitcase vs a carry-on. (Just one example, there are MANY more I could offer)
This model with VZ gives them a perverse incentive to NEVER invest in improving infrastructure. As someone already pointed out, there's only so much capacity....so someone who doesn't choose to pay is definitely getting bumped to an inferior grade of service.
It would be like an airline saying mid-flight "Your ticket only paid for the flight. Now fork over $$ more for landing. | |
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Easy FixDon't push the button! Enough said. | |
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IPPlanManHoly Cable Modem Batman join:2000-09-20 Washington, DC
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Reminds me of this... Engage! |
Engage! | |
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Matt3
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2011-Nov-3 11:15 am
Re: Reminds me of this...Whoa, I had that exact same case back in the day. Crazy. | |
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Re: Reminds me of this...Ha! That's awesome. | |
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Tomek
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2011-Nov-3 10:22 am
Speed TiersWhy Wireless cannot offer plans similar to wired? | |
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mb6
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2011-Nov-3 10:38 am
Kool AidThis just strenghtens my intentions to return to using a "dumb" phone when my current contract expires. I now get unlimited 4G for an additional $25.49/month, and enjoy the Kool Aid, but I can survive with plain water I'm sure. This just reinforces my feelings that Capitalism has run amok! | |
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Re: Kool AidI won't be using this, thats for sure. | |
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what if its not the network?a lot of the issue people are having on smartphones in general and android in particular are actual hardware/software and not network related.
but people do not know this. i can see some people getting pretty pissed off if they hit the turbo button, get charged but the prblem does not go away.
also will verizon offer an 'always in turbo' option, where it sim ply works well all the time? that of course is what people want and would be will to pay for. in fact price it reasonable enough and everyone will sign up. OH wait a second. that might be a problem, no one to kick off. | |
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morbo
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2011-Nov-3 1:35 pm
Network Neutrality needed for wirelessThis is why network neutrality is needed for wireless. Telco greed knows no bounds. | |
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simpleIt will be simple.. If my iphone becomes unenjoyable with my 30 dollar grandfathered plan. When time comes for the soo called upgrade aka contract ends, i'm dumping the whole damn thing and finding a cheaper service.. I am soo sick of all of this nickle and diming...
Btw, before someone puts on their cape and accuses me of hogging all of the bandwidth on my tower, I barely go beyond 2 gigs in my area (this includes use outside of my home area).. Probably due to poor coverage, but even then a 5 gig allowance would work for my iphone just fine for the moment I think.
I would like to enjoy my damn phone for the monthly payments i'm paying! Any attempts to squeeze me more will result in what happened with the banks when they had the team delta force plan of charging 5 a month just to be allowed to use them.. The only drawback is being this is a nearly monopolistic wireless country, our options are extremely limited :-/ | |
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i1me2ao
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2011-Nov-3 3:22 pm
howabout actually giving a stable 3g signal, that would be nice.
delete the fu&*( bloatware reporting back and that would free the tubes up. | |
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Selenia
Premium Member
2011-Nov-3 3:31 pm
Verizon just ensured I wait for AT&T LTEThis is like those stupid speed passes at amusement parks on a busy day. Bend over and pay $1** and worsen the quality and speed of service for those not willing to pay. I can picture it when a business convention comes to town and stays at one of the bigger hotels. If it's at the Crowne Plaza, those of us watching our funds and not buying into this will be lucky to be able to use their phones near the main City square in Pittsfield(1 town south of here). Reminds me of Labor Day at Six Flags | |
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extra??I thought that was called POST PAID.. where the carriers ALREADY make a price gouging profit.. you mean the wirless carriers want to make an extra high fee toll lane for wireless broadband/data?
This will probably push into the realm of illegal at some point.. already the carriers charge around $10/gb of data consumed. To charge more is getting into the octane business that retail gasoline stations do.. but for your "SMART" computer phone. However consumers would be "STUPID AND FOOLISH" to buy such a service. | |
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lahey
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2011-Nov-4 1:23 pm
lolWhy don't they just you know.......build more network support infrastructure? If they had more things sending out more signals it would equal less congestion, better faster network, happier customers, and more future customers which equals more profit over time.
But that would require them to spend money now.....greedy bastards. | |
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