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Camden, TN | Well except the fact that those on unlimited on Verizon that want the iphone 5 will have to pay full price for the phone. | |
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|  aaronwtPremium
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| said by BF69: those on unlimited on Verizon that want the iphone 5 will have to pay full price for the phone.
That would certainly be cheaper than switching to a shared data plan for two years. Depending on the data usage it's probably cheaper after less than a year. | |
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Camden, TN | Re: Well except the fact that said by aaronwt:said by BF69: those on unlimited on Verizon that want the iphone 5 will have to pay full price for the phone.
That would certainly be cheaper than switching to a shared data plan for two years. Depending on the data usage it's probably cheaper after less than a year. Well if it's like the Galaxy S III then it would be $600 full price or a $400 difference. Also technically it's 20 months not 2 years since you can upgrade every 20 months. So $20 a month.
I guess if you don't bother to use Wi-Fi I suppose one would use a lot of data. Of course maybe that's the reason why they got rid of unlimited also. Hmmmmm. | |
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| Re: Well except the fact that said by BF69:said by aaronwt:said by BF69: those on unlimited on Verizon that want the iphone 5 will have to pay full price for the phone.
That would certainly be cheaper than switching to a shared data plan for two years. Depending on the data usage it's probably cheaper after less than a year. Well if it's like the Galaxy S III then it would be $600 full price or a $400 difference. Also technically it's 20 months not 2 years since you can upgrade every 20 months. So $20 a month. I guess if you don't bother to use Wi-Fi I suppose one would use a lot of data. Of course maybe that's the reason why they got rid of unlimited also. Hmmmmm. $600 ? my good man the last Iphone started off higher than that with the entry level model @ $650, and with the top of the line memory models in the $800 bracket. I wouldn't hold my breath and expect apple to release any of the I5 models for anything less than A starting gate price of $700 (off contract) for the entry level model, now that there claiming this I5 is leaps and bounds over the 4/4S.
»www.zdnet.com/blog/cell-phones/i···450/6634
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| Re: Well except the fact that said by buddahbless:$600 ? my good man the last Iphone started off higher than that with the entry level model @ $650, and with the top of the line memory models in the $800 bracket. It amuses me to no end how Apple buyers will accept a $100-$200 price increase for the privilege of having more storage space, while neglecting to consider the fact that every single Android phone on the market can be upgraded at any time for the cost of an SD card. | |
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kudos:48 | said by BF69:said by aaronwt:said by BF69: those on unlimited on Verizon that want the iphone 5 will have to pay full price for the phone.
That would certainly be cheaper than switching to a shared data plan for two years. Depending on the data usage it's probably cheaper after less than a year. Well if it's like the Galaxy S III then it would be $600 full price or a $400 difference. Also technically it's 20 months not 2 years since you can upgrade every 20 months. So $20 a month. I guess if you don't bother to use Wi-Fi I suppose one would use a lot of data. Of course maybe that's the reason why they got rid of unlimited also. Hmmmmm. Just go to a third party retailer that not a corporate office reseller, when you go to use your upgrade and they tell you that "you'll have to lose unlimited data" tell them nevermind you want your phone back, they usually want to make the commission so bad they'll find a way around the loss of your unlimited to get you a new phone, I did that here at a kiosk in the mall and got my S3 for the price of the upgrade 
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Camden, TN | Re: Well except the fact that said by mmay149q:Just go to a third party retailer that not a corporate office reseller, when you go to use your upgrade and they tell you that "you'll have to lose unlimited data" tell them nevermind you want your phone back, they usually want to make the commission so bad they'll find a way around the loss of your unlimited to get you a new phone, I did that here at a kiosk in the mall and got my S3 for the price of the upgrade t
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i hate to break it to you but you cant keep unlimited and also take a discounted upgrade and renew your contract. thats just the facts. | |
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kudos:48 | Re: Well except the fact that I hate to break it to you, but I've done it. That's just the facts.
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Camden, TN | Re: Well except the fact that said by mmay149q:I hate to break it to you, but I've done it. That's just the facts.
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Good for YOU. They fact is you got lucky and the retialer did something against Verizon TOS so I suspect they are not doing it anymore or they will no longer be abe to resell Verizon services. You are ONE person and that doesn't mean anyone can do it and considering the numnber of people forced to either switch or pay full prices outnumber you by umpteenfold I'll take those facts over yours.
I suggest you quit telling peole they can do something they most certianly CAN NOT do.
Also please let me know this generous retailer and location. Anyone can say anything back your shit up. | |
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kudos:48 | Re: Well except the fact that said by BF69:said by mmay149q:I hate to break it to you, but I've done it. That's just the facts.
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Also please let me know this generous retailer and location. Anyone can say anything back your shit up. Mesquite Texas inside the Town East Mall, granted I had to act like I was going to walk if they took my unlimited. Please prove me wrong 
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Camden, TN | Re: Well except the fact that said by mmay149q:said by BF69:said by mmay149q:I hate to break it to you, but I've done it. That's just the facts.
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Also please let me know this generous retailer and location. Anyone can say anything back your shit up. Mesquite Texas inside the Town East Mall, granted I had to act like I was going to walk if they took my unlimited. Please prove me wrong Matt The fact is there was a glitch in the system that allowed some ordering the SIII to keep unlimited. That glitch has now been fixed. But just in case I will report that retailer to Verizon. | |
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1 edit | Re: Well except the fact that said by BF69:The fact is there was a glitch in the system that allowed some ordering the SIII to keep unlimited. That glitch has now been fixed. But just in case I will report that retailer to Verizon.
Haha, wow, it's people like you that screw everything up, what a douchebag.
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Edit: So let me see if I get this straight...
Upon signing up on contract with VZW 6 years ago, I decided to purchase a family plan of 3 devices, 2 dumb phones, 1 smart phone. At the time I could of had the single smart phone for about $80 a month and unlimited data. Instead I pay $230 a month so I have the ability to buy a new phone every 6 months subsidized. The 2 extra phones haven't been activated/turned on since the day I bought them, and so I'm actually paying VZW $150 extra a month for this ability.
$150 x 6 = $900
So by your logic I should be paying full price every 6 months for a new phone even though I already pay them an extra $900 a month for 2 phones that aren't being used at all, that just sit in a desk and rot away. Now does this really make any sense? Considering the extra I pay them could buy me a new phone every 6 months? No I think I'll stick to my loopholes since I already pay them well enough that they should be providing me a new phone for free every 6 months.
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| | | | said by aaronwt:said by BF69: those on unlimited on Verizon that want the iphone 5 will have to pay full price for the phone.
That would certainly be cheaper than switching to a shared data plan for two years. Depending on the data usage it's probably cheaper after less than a year. Not for me. I use less than a gig on my iPhone every month, and I stream audio and video. | |
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| | | said by BF69: those on unlimited on Verizon that want the iphone 5 will have to pay full price for the phone.
Them's the breaks. If you want to keep your grandfathered plan, prepare to pay full price. If you want a subsidy, you need to get a new plan. | |
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kudos:1 | File a complaint about AT&T with the FCC What a load of crap from AT&T... But this is typical from a company that wants to charge you for a network that you can't actually use.
So Unlimited not only means "throttled", it also means "inaccessible".
File an FCC Complaint about AT&T's FaceTime practice here:
»www.fcc.gov/complaints
Open Internet (Net Neutrality) --> Blocking of Internet content, applications, or services
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|  Duramax08Win8 sucksPremium
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San Antonio, TX | Re: File a complaint about AT&T with the FCC im totally up for this. anyone else?
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| Re: File a complaint about AT&T with the FCC I'd say go for it, though you might want to wait until iOS 6 is actually released since technically AT&T isn't blocking FaceTime yet.
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San Antonio, TX | Re: File a complaint about AT&T with the FCC good point, ill start bitching after I get my 5.
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| Re: File a complaint about AT&T with the FCC said by delusion ftl :Wait.. What? Why would you run into the arms of garbage like this? Wouldn't you leave ATT and/or apple and upgrade to something better instead? Save a bunch of money and all the other benefits.
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San Antonio, TX | It works, plain and simple. Also have money invested into apps and music. Dont feel like changing.
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Decatur, GA | I'm confused... Look, I don't like how Verizon or AT&T handle things, but this is crazy.
AT&T is allowing you to keep your unlimited plan with the caveat that you can't use Facetime.
Verizon says you can use Facetime, but they have already said you CAN'T have unlimited data with the iPhone5.
So.. AT&T gives you a choice.. albeit, a bad one. With Verizon, you have zero choice. You have shared data and Facetime.
In my case, I have unlimited data with my iPhone on AT&T. I have no interest in using Facetime over LTE, so I plan to stick with the unlimited data versus if I was on Verizon, where I would have no choice and would have to switch plans.
I personally prefer how AT&T handled this and is at least allowing me to choose.
Side question..Do people really use Facetime that much? Am I that behind the times? | |
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| | | said by bdon78:Look, I don't like how Verizon or AT&T handle things, but this is crazy.
AT&T is allowing you to keep your unlimited plan with the caveat that you can't use Facetime.
Verizon says you can use Facetime, but they have already said you CAN'T have unlimited data with the iPhone5.
So.. AT&T gives you a choice.. albeit, a bad one. With Verizon, you have zero choice. You have shared data and Facetime.
In my case, I have unlimited data with my iPhone on AT&T. I have no interest in using Facetime over LTE, so I plan to stick with the unlimited data versus if I was on Verizon, where I would have no choice and would have to switch plans.
I personally prefer how AT&T handled this and is at least allowing me to choose.
Side question..Do people really use Facetime that much? Am I that behind the times?
That's not true, you can keep unlimited data, but if you upgrade to the iPhone 5 you will pay full price for the phone. | |
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Decatur, GA | Re: I'm confused... Yes, and the cost of a full price phone over 2 years versus the subsidy? Do the math.
And I agree that it is a choice between bad or worse, just a matter of personal preference more than anything. | |
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| do a google search......if you have a family share plan..with a dumb phone....it appears you can upgrade the dumb phone to an iphone 5...........then activate the iphone 5 on your unlimited line then cancel the data plan on your dumb phone line.......tons of stories of people who have done it | |
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|  DavidNow accepting new patientsPremium,VIP
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kudos:78 | +1 and agree... I guess I would be behind the times too as facetime doesn't appeal to me. | |
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| | Let Me See If I Understand This People are complaining that "AT&T" and VZW won't give them what they want for the price they want to pay so... they buy what they can, or can justify, then want the government to force the carriers to give them the rest?
This is just like the cable TV nonsense all over again. People want the "wonderfullness" of subscription TV, but don't want to pay what the sellers want to charge. So they demand the government "do something."
Geee... I can't find the device and coverage I would like for the prices I want to pay. Should I petition the government to make the providers give me what I want, for what I want to pay?
This is nonsense. If you don't like what your provider is doing, stop giving them your business. For the vast majority of smartphone users, smartphones and data plans are little more than amusements, anyway. C'mon: Facetime? Seriously? Give me a break.
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Mount Airy, MD | Meh Jailbreaking your iPhone has never been easier. My guess is that iOS 6 will be liberated quickly, and using the 3G unrestricted will solve this problem.
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|  Smith6612Premium,MVM
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kudos:22 | Re: Meh I'm quite sure iOS 6 has been jailbroken already, at least on the older devices (4S and older). But, that may just be the developer versions that get released before the actual public download goes live. | |
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| Re: Meh said by Smith6612:I'm quite sure iOS 6 has been jailbroken already, at least on the older devices (4S and older). But, that may just be the developer versions that get released before the actual public download goes live.
There is no bootrom jailbreak for A5 chip and greater (i.e. iPhone 4S/5, iPad 2/3), like there is for the A4 chip (iPhone 4) and earlier. So while a tethered jailbreak is already available for iOS 6 for iPhone 4/iPad and older models, nothing exists for newer models.
Also an untethered jailbreak doesn't exist for any model as of yet and one might not exist for quite a while.
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| Re: Meh said by Smith6612:Thanks for the information and the correction . I haven't been following the Jailbreaking community too much but as the article was written in July I wonder how much progress they have made, and if anything has undoubtedly changed in iOS6 to yet again break everything for those folks.
The iOS 6 GM was just released yesterday and I'm guessing they are hard at work at it. The problem is they need to find a bug in the iOS 6 that allows escaping the user land. I don't doubt iOS 6 will be jailbroken eventually, but it could take awhile.
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kudos:22 | Re: Meh True. Sort of like the days of iOS3. They found a nifty PDF exploit that would root the device from the browser, and once Apple patched it many developers had to find another exploit to use. Some of them certainly took ages to come out. | |
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