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Verizon Working With RedBox On Streaming Platform
Also Considered Buying Hulu...
by Karl Bode 12:44PM Thursday Dec 08 2011
Earlier this week reports emerged that Verizon is cooking up a streaming video platform to be offered outside of their traditional telco footprint, which they hope will eventually be a Netflix competitor. Verizon's streaming video ambitions were also made apparent this week when company CEO Lowell McAdam confirmed that Verizon was among the companies considering a Hulu buy, though like other companies likely didn't like the price tag for a service that didn't include secured content licensing deals.

As an addendum to Verizon's planned OTT out-of-footprint streaming service, teports have now popped up indicating that Verizon's going to be partnering with RedBox on the effort, the telco obviously doing the heavy lifting on the CDN and infrastructure end:
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The service is called Project Zoetrope internally, and will be a subscription, streaming, and downloading service for TV and movies that will be available on a broad variety of platforms: they plan support for iOS, Android, Google TV, Xbox, Roku and other streaming boxes, and browsers. “Set-top boxes,” by which they mean more traditional digital cable boxes, are not supported; this is an internet service, not a broadcast service.
The service will reportedly use the RedBox brand in order to capitalize on the brand's recognition in the video space. RedBox had started hinting that they were interested in creating a streaming platform earlier this year. There's no word on pricing yet -- though leaks suggest the service will have both a monthly fee and/or be credit based (think Microsoft points on Xbox Live).

The service is planned for a May 28th launch with a beta starting in late April.

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knightmb
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I welcome the competitors

I use Netflix myself and I never thought of it as the be-all-end-all of streaming services, but you can't beat the price.

Having another competitor is good in that, perhaps this will finally open up the eyes of the MPAA that streaming content is not as evil as everyone wants to make it out to be and that pirates will always pirate, but good content at a good price will always reigh king to consumers.

dvd536
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Re: I welcome the competitors

said by knightmb:

I use Netflix myself and I never thought of it as the be-all-end-all of streaming services, but you can't beat the price.

Having another competitor is good in that, perhaps this will finally open up the eyes of the MPAA that streaming content is not as evil as everyone wants to make it out to be and that pirates will always pirate, but good content at a good price will always reigh king to consumers.

Piracy will always beat legit due to quality.
despite whatever the cost is legit services always are low bitstarved crap
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newview
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Price will be my deciding factor

Unless the price point is well below Netflix's current price, I'll not be interested at all. I left Netflix when they upped their combined Streaming/Mail service by 60%, essentially doubling the price of each service on it's on. At a price of about $4.95 a month I'd be interested. Gouging people like Netflix has opted to do will not win any friends.

Redbox has historically placed a great deal of emphasis on their pricing, the $1.00 per day pricing (which they recently raised to $1.20 a day), and I expect similar inexpensive pricing to carryover to any streaming services they offer, or I simply will not be interested.

aaronwt
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Re: Price will be my deciding factor

netflix currently charges $8 for streaming which is a good deal for the content they have. I don't see how another service could go much lower without losing alot of money.

When Netflix had their price changes, my price went down 6.5% not up 60%.(I had disc rentals with BD and streaming)

newview
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Re: Price will be my deciding factor

said by aaronwt:

netflix currently charges $8 for streaming which is a good deal for the content they have. I don't see how another service could go much lower without losing alot of money.

When Netflix had their price changes, my price went down 6.5% not up 60%.(I had disc rentals with BD and streaming)

I had BOTH streaming and 1 DVD mailed at a time for $7.99 a month. Netflix upped the price FOR THE SAME EXACT SERVICE to $15.98 a month. AFAIC, they doubled the price of each.

jester121
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Re: Price will be my deciding factor

I admire your math skills. Are you a politician?
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newview
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Re: Price will be my deciding factor

Don't forget that Netflix had PREVIOUSLY raised prices from 1$-3$ only a few months before the 60% price hike that "was the straw that broke the camel's back". So ... before ALL the price hikes I was getting both Streaming/Mail at $7.99 a month and ended up paying $15.98 (sorry, my original post DID say $15.78, it has been edited). My math skills are spot on.

»blog.streamingmedia.com/the_busi···ead.html

88615298
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Re: Price will be my deciding factor

said by newview:

Don't forget that Netflix had PREVIOUSLY raised prices from 1$-3$ only a few months before the 60% price hike that "was the straw that broke the camel's back". So ... before ALL the price hikes I was getting both Streaming/Mail at $7.99 a month and ended up paying $15.98 (sorry, my original post DID say $15.78, it has been edited). My math skills are spot on.

»blog.streamingmedia.com/the_busi···ead.html

Actually streaming and 1 DVD at a time was $9.99 not $7.99. And I'm sorry if you think offering streaming and 1 DVD at a time for $10 is profitbale then you try doing it. Netflix is NOT a charity nor is it welfare. No one owes you anything.

misiek

join:2000-12-25
Round Lake, IL
From Netflix FAQs:
»www.netflix.com/HowItWorks


"How much does it cost?

For only $7.99 a month, you get unlimited movies & TV episodes instantly over the Internet to your TV or computer. There are no commercials, and you can pause, rewind, fast forward or rewatch as often as you like. It's really that easy!"


and:


"Can I get DVDs by mail from Netflix?
Yes. During sign up, you can add unlimited DVDs (1 DVD out-at-a-time plan) for only $7.99 more a month."

aaronwt
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said by newview:

said by aaronwt:

netflix currently charges $8 for streaming which is a good deal for the content they have. I don't see how another service could go much lower without losing alot of money.

When Netflix had their price changes, my price went down 6.5% not up 60%.(I had disc rentals with BD and streaming)

I had BOTH streaming and 1 DVD mailed at a time for $7.99 a month. Netflix upped the price FOR THE SAME EXACT SERVICE to $15.98 a month. AFAIC, they doubled the price of each.

I had the eight out plan when the price changes took effect. The 8 out and 7 out plans with streaming saw price decreases (for the same exact service)and the 6 out with streaming(maybe the 5 out too, not sure) stayed the same price.

alchav

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You'll probably have to order Verizon FiOS, and it will be part of a Package deal offered to the higher end speeds. You need the higher end Bandwidth to get the best Streaming capabilities. So I think counting everything, it will be well over $5/mo.
openbox9
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Re: Price will be my deciding factor

said by alchav:

You'll probably have to order Verizon FiOS, and it will be part of a Package deal offered to the higher end speeds. You need the higher end Bandwidth to get the best Streaming capabilities.

So you're suggesting that my 15/5 Mbps into level FiOS connection won't stream well? Anyway, I'm guessing the point of this service would be to extend outside of VZ's current footprint, to complete the crushing blow to Netflix, and preempt Dish's BB service before it becomes useful.

morbo
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said by newview:

At a price of about $4.95 a month I'd be interested. Gouging people like Netflix has opted to do will not win any friends.

If you believe $4.95 is reasonable for unlimited streaming, I don't think you are the target customer for Netflix or this future Redbox Verizon venture. You are better off stealing content and being "happy" than to expect an unlimited buffet of options for less than $5.

newview
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Re: Price will be my deciding factor

said by morbo:

said by newview:

At a price of about $4.95 a month I'd be interested. Gouging people like Netflix has opted to do will not win any friends.

If you believe $4.95 is reasonable for unlimited streaming, I don't think you are the target customer for Netflix or this future Redbox Verizon venture. You are better off stealing content and being "happy" than to expect an unlimited buffet of options for less than $5.

Apparently 800,000 other people decided Netflix's price point was too high also ... and Netflix has yet to recover.
These companies who attempt to sell services at 200-300% markup will eventually fail.
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Re: Price will be my deciding factor

Amazon's streaming is only $6.58 per month at $79.00 for 12 months of the Amazon prime plus you get free shipping on their website. They have a pretty good Selection and they keep adding to it. They don't have as much as Netflix does but they continue to add new stuff.

dvd536
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Re: Price will be my deciding factor

said by crk2h:

Amazon's streaming is only $6.58 per month at $79.00 for 12 months of the Amazon prime plus you get free shipping on their website. They have a pretty good Selection and they keep adding to it. They don't have as much as Netflix does but they continue to add new stuff.

Amazon doesn't have near the library that netflix does.
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morbo
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People jumped ship because Netflix management decided it made sense to raise prices dramatically all at once. They need to learn how the business works: raise prices more slowly, up to 5-15% each year, every year. It works and doesn't cause as big as stink as their strategy this year.
westdc

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That's really thinking

Outside the Box-Just what everyone needed another original idea for delivering the same tired movies at the same high price to the same customers whose Broad Band is capped for using it.
Skippy25

join:2000-09-13
Hazelwood, MO

Re: That's really thinking

If we try to look beyond the obvious that you pointed out, maybe some good will come of this in that the MPAA and studios will see that their content can be delivered through streaming and that they can still make good money.

Here is to hoping at least. I dont subscribe to Netflix and probably wont until I can get the content I want when I want it. All of that falls on the studios and MPAA as I dont buy DVD's anymore. I simply wait to get them from RedBox when they become available. If I can then stream them from Redbox (im willing to pay per movie) that is fine with me.