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1 edit | Re: CDMA Or it could be going to a huge mobile carrier in China, for all anyone knows. I see no compelling reason to think this rumor is any more true than the previous ones have been.
And yeah, that TechCrunch piece is an outstanding argument for the Verizon iPhone:
"...I am going to go on record to say Verizon will be selling an iPhone this coming January."
And then a few short paragraphs later:
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| Re: CDMA normally its the phone you have (an old one) or you're out in the sticks that were never built up. Sprint service works when its there and it works great! And the arugment about VZW vs Sprint not working is moot! they roam on each other so both phones would always work. -- www.twopugsbrand.com Kosher, Vegan, and Organic Certified Dog and Cat treats/foods and other products! www.etsy.com/shop/snakx4u/ Organic, Kosher, Gluten Free, Vegan Human Baked Goods | |
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| said by robo74:said by hottboiinnc:Just because they're ordering CDMA chips doesn't mean its going to VZ. It could go to Sprint for all anyone knows. Sprint's network is just is good if not better than VZ and Sprint is also much cheaper than VZ on all aspects of the service. Thanks for this good laugh on a Monday morning. I really needed that! I carry two phones, my personal is VZW and my work phone is sprint. From coast to coast, sprint sucks! In my current career as a telecom tech servicing long haul fiber rings, I do a lot of travel to remote sites clearly off the beaten path. In the very few areas where I don't have Sprint service, I roam on Verizon anyway, and techs I've escorted who have Verizon phones have told me that they're phone has gone into roaming mode (I wonder on who's network ). So the whole "Sprint sucks coast to coast " phrase just doesn't hold water with me. | |
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| Re: CDMA yep! I know many areas around Ohio and Michigan and even in KY where VZW doesn't have great coverage and it will flip to Sprint. Hell even the old Alltel areas that did change to VZW have shitty service now and flip to Sprint. Even in Cleveland! -- www.twopugsbrand.com Kosher, Vegan, and Organic Certified Dog and Cat treats/foods and other products! www.etsy.com/shop/snakx4u/ Organic, Kosher, Gluten Free, Vegan Human Baked Goods | |
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| Re: CDMA and you know this about Sprint how? As i said and everyone else on here; Sprint does roam on VZ and VZ will roam on Sprint. You don't know if Sprint can or not can't support this device; nor do you know if VZ can or can not. The only ones that know that are the carriers themselves.
Also why would VZ take this device if they plan on having a massive LTE network built this year and next. It wouldn't make sense. So the only other CDMA carrier that they'd talk to would be Sprint. -- www.twopugsbrand.com Kosher, Vegan, and Organic Certified Dog and Cat treats/foods and other products! www.etsy.com/shop/snakx4u/ Organic, Kosher, Gluten Free, Vegan Human Baked Goods | |
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| Re: CDMA said by hottboiinnc:and you know this about Sprint how? As i said and everyone else on here; Sprint does roam on VZ and VZ will roam on Sprint. You don't know if Sprint can or not can't support this device; nor do you know if VZ can or can not. The only ones that know that are the carriers themselves. Also why would VZ take this device if they plan on having a massive LTE network built this year and next. It wouldn't make sense. So the only other CDMA carrier that they'd talk to would be Sprint. Because I know what a PRL is and Birmingham has been REMOVED from the PRL for Verizon roaming.. And LTE will FALL back to CDMA when LTE coverage is not available. -- 2010 Ford Fusion Sport | |
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| Re: CDMA you do know roaming varies by market to market right? But yah you should know this but after all most likely not. Since everyone elses roaming works just fine from Sprint to VZW and backwords.
And LTE won't be available everwhere and LTE is only data won't be Voice for some time. But yah you should know that as well.
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2 edits | said by Romney2012:said by OldschoolDSL:I am deeply sadden by Apple if they pick a CDMA provider, even more so with Verizon. Why? Against competition? Or just hate CDMA on spec? I"m all for open competition, provided that competition NOT ONLY benefits the company, but ALSO the consumer.
CDMA is very limited and can not be generally used outside The USA.
Verizon has a bad habit of taking a really good phone and limiting it. That's not to say other companies don't do it, but Verizon just happens to do it to the ones everyone would want the most and benefit the most, when unrestricted.
CDMA also does not use Chips / Sim cards ... I and many others will buy a 2nd phone for emergencies ...ie ... If I'm out in the middle of no where and suddenly my phone was to brake, I could simply switch out the sim card (chip) into the 2nd phone... Verizon (and any CDMA provider) this is not possible, because there is no sim card (chip) to switch out.
Verizon has had the bad habit of using BREW & not Java. This would prevent people from using many of their 3rd party apps, games, or ring tones. | |
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GSM blows! That is a fact. Funny how with AT&T and T-Mobile if I have one bar I get a bunch of garbled audio, drop outs, etc. With Sprint I can maintain conversations as long as I please with 1 bar. SIM cards are a nice convenience but I can do without . I could careless what the rest of the world uses. This country is too good GSM. -- Time Warner Cable Subscriber, Fanboy, Shill & Lover - Providing an advanced fiber network since before fiber became popular Sprint Subscriber, Fanboy, Shill & Lover - Americas most dependable 3G network, first 4G network, best push to talk network | |
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| Oh come on Karl.. How many times have we heard this before ? How many times have "people in the know" claimed this only to be corrected time and time again by his Steveness at a keynote.
It makes absolutely 0 sense for Apple to make a CDMA iPhone this late in the game. I see them making a AWS iPhone rather than a CDMA one just because the modification is to much simpler and less costly.
Seriously, the CDMA iPhone will never happen. Verizon is in love with Google. They will not kick that relationship to the curb.
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I'm thinking of starting my own rumor that a Verizon iPhone will be here by the holidays. Let's see, what blog should I post that on to get it believed and started.. hmmm... | |
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A CDMA iPhone without a hot swap battery option will be a BIGGER ISSUE than AntennaGate.
I also predict that Apple Inc. will distance from anymore exclusivity deals, and pimp out the iPhone for ALL carriers. In a move to squelch the investigations into the AT&T / iPhone exclusivity details. -- "In Vino Veritas" (In wine there is truth (People say what they really mean when they're drunk)) | |
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| Re: I predict the CDMA iPhone will SUCK batteries like iVampires said by r0bErT4u:Contrary to tech papers, my experience with CDMA smartphones is that the battery life drained quickly, in comparison to GSM smartphones. A CDMA iPhone without a hot swap battery option will be a BIGGER ISSUE than AntennaGate. I also predict that Apple Inc. will distance from anymore exclusivity deals, and pimp out the iPhone for ALL carriers. In a move to squelch the investigations into the AT&T / iPhone exclusivity details. yeah man one thing I noticed with my Evo 4G is when you have no cell service like indoors it will suck the battery dry in no time where GSM is not so bad..
but I'm getting a extended battery soon so it wont matter anymore. -- It's NOT Ni-kon It's NE-KON!
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My experience has been that it's more a function of the phone than the network. I have a work provided AT&T Blackberry that will last for a good 2 days of usage without a recharge, about the same as the previous Blackberry I had on Verizon. | |
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| Re: I predict the CDMA iPhone will SUCK batteries like iVampires said by Matt:said by Subaru:yeah man one thing I noticed with my Evo 4G is when you have no cell service like indoors it will suck the battery dry in no time where GSM is not so bad.. but I'm getting a extended battery soon so it wont matter anymore. That's because the EVO has 6 radios in it ... My experience has been that it's more a function of the phone than the network. I have a work provided AT&T Blackberry that will last for a good 2 days of usage without a recharge, about the same as the previous Blackberry I had on Verizon. i don't run all 6 radios... I have wifi off 4G off and the hotspot off -- It's NOT Ni-kon It's NE-KON!
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If you had said "Verizon offers phones with a better camera" OR "I know of a Verizon phone that has a faster processor", I might agree. Its incorrect to simply state they have better phones. There are many matrices out there that compare tech specs, and in every case, each type of phone (EVO, DROID, iPhone) has it positives and negatives.
When it comes down to it, its a consumers choice. You're assuming that all consumers want what YOU want.. that isn't the case.
Example: - Quite frankly, I could care less about 720p recording. - My father could care less about processor speed or tech specifications, he wants a phone that is simple to dial.
Either way.. an iPhone may be a step back for you... but it doesn't make sense to assume everyone wants what you want... | |
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1 edit | said by bdon78:said by aaronwt:Verizon already offers some phones that are much better than the iPhone. Getting an iPhone would be a step backwards. That is a simple matter of opinion. I'll explain and give you answers.. If you had said "Verizon offers phones with a better camera" OR "I know of a Verizon phone that has a faster processor", I might agree. Its incorrect to simply state they have better phones. There are many matrices out there that compare tech specs, and in every case, each type of phone (EVO, DROID, iPhone) has it positives and negatives. When it comes down to it, its a consumers choice. You're assuming that all consumers want what YOU want.. that isn't the case. Example: - Quite frankly, I could care less about 720p recording. - My father could care less about processor speed or tech specifications, he wants a phone that is simple to dial. Either way.. an iPhone may be a step back for you... but it doesn't make sense to assume everyone wants what you want... Yes, I could not care less about some of the specs too.. | |
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| Quote of a quote or a "unnamed reliable source said..." Apple just loves this type of speculation. This is the hype that fuels its sales.
But at the end of the day, if you read the article, it points to another article where the person says that he heard it from an unnamed reliable source who had heard that Apple was buying CDMA chips from Qualcomm.
Perhaps he heard that Apple would be buying cdma chips from Qualcomm ?
Perhaps he just heard that Apple is buying chips from Qualcomm (which it already does).
CDMA is the proprietary network protocol owned by Qualcomm and used by Verizon and Sprint.
cdma is an air interface philosophy used by GSM 3G (UMTS/HSPA) and by LTE. (GSM 2G used a tdma philosophy).
The title of this new should not have "Apple orders massive...". It should be "Rumour that Apple might order massice..."
If at all, it is more likely that the iphone will be available on LTE by january. I am not sure Apple will ever bother with a CDMA version. For one thing, one needs to consider physical room on the iphone board for an extra chip and all the software changes to support dual radios (LTE and CDMA).
CDMA had logic to fall back to analogue phones. Not sure if it has logic to faill forwrad to LTE when it becomes available.
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| Re: I mean really who cares... The latest Blackberry won't be available on CDMA. Nokia stopped making CDMA phones, Apple didn't make CDMA, and now Blackberry stopped making CDMA phones. CDMA has no 4g evolution. It is a dead end.
As soon as Verizon launches LTE, you will find the CDMA market starting to dry up rather quickly. And I doubt there will be a wide selection of dual LTE-CDMA handsets. I suspect Samsung and LG will produce a few low end handsets with limited data functionality.
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Point being it's out of the labs and being deployed right now. VZW is way ahead of ATT with LTE, who basically gave up on 3G to rush their LTE infrastructure and keep playing catch up. But they still lag.
And from personal experience, I have a lot of friends and business contacts running iPhones and Blackberry's of various flavors on ATT. In my area - and there's only like 12 million people here - VZW has rock solid coverage and reliable service on most devices. BBerry's on ATT aren't too bad, but iPhones (esp. the 4) are junque.
And it irritates me because I had to update my plan to 900 minutes just to designate key contacts who bailed to ATT. And with my iPhone buddies, it's a constant case of dropped calls. If they're on the road and switch to a saturated tower, I just get dead air - VZW is kind enough to keep me connected to their network while my iPhone buddies just dropped off the edge of the earth mid conversation. ATT Blackberry's, less of a problem.
VZW's Droid phones are pretty cool - I got an "Incredible" in May. It was a very cool device except for a couple of things: it dropped calls and garbled audio constantly, and the display was pretty much useless in bright daylight. I returned it and re-activated my 8330 Curve (which reminds me, I'm due for a battery pull). Boring but reliable. And yes, I have handed that beat to shit thing to some of my iPhone friends so they could create or continue a simple phone call many, many times. LA is an extremely competitive market that virtually does most of it's business via smartphones, because nobody seems to have offices or landlines anymore.
I really don't think Apple is dumb enough to come out with an EVDO CDMA phone for VZW any time soon. LTE maybe, but not until the infrastructure is reliable and widespread enough. Just IMO though, Apple does some really dumb stuff and I own a lot of their products.
And FWIW, doing CDMA and LTE at the same time is possible, but it's going to be a clunky transition. ATT should have an easier time with it, at least once they get it out of their labs and onto their towers, which VZW has been doing for months in test markets. ATT has the advantage of more spectrum, which should help them in the long run, but VZW has the advantage of getting started with it much sooner. Like I said, they are already beta testing LTE devices. ATT? Crickets. | |
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| Re: Verizon LTE deployment Remember that Verizon isn't the only LTE network in the world. Apple may not need to wait for Verizon's LTE network to be large enough before unveiling its LTA iphone.
There is an "wow" advantage to be an early LTE phone, as it will show the iphone being a world leader. Remember that it got ridiculed for being late at the 3G table. | |
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 | | Future Droid defector I have a Moto Droid and like it very much I will buy an iPhone/Verizon the day they become available and ditch the Droid... | |
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