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1 edit | Wow A rumor of the iPhone coming to the VZW network??!?!? UnHEARD of!
aka I'll believe it when I am holding it in my hand, (but not too tight, I need to be able to make calls)
In other news, Kudos to Verizon for always thinking ahead....this for their wireless service, and their FIOS service. | |
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| | Backhaul and pricing According to this, VZW is using 50Mbps landline backhaul and may use microwave backhaul when needed.
»www.fiercewireless.com/story/t-r···10-06-24
They've said there will be no unlimited data option. LTE will be sold in buckets of data. Will be curious to see how they price that but one concern is they mentioned pricing in MB, not GB.
I found in new markets, Clearwire may be using 100Mbps landline and 30-40Mbps microwave backhaul. Older Clear markets have much less and those that have oversubscription issues will supposedly be upgraded at some point.
Clear says they plan to stick to unlimited since they have more spectrum. I suspect if they do add caps it will be comparable to cable industry, not telcom industry.
»www.rcrwireless.com/ARTICLE/2010···networks
»forum.androidcentral.com/carrier···st125204
I was getting up to 7Mbps on my EVO at home so decided to try a fixed Clearwire modem. Am getting sustained 10-12Mbps with peaks to 15Mbps. Decided to dump TWC cable modem.
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kudos:8 | Re: Backhaul and pricing 10000000000000000000 MB enough?
It's in MB, not GB so it's a "concern".
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| | | I thought fiber was capable of much more than 50 MB. Isn't FIOS's GPON dedicating much more than that to 32 customers at a time? Why such low numbers to the towers? | |
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| | | | Re: Backhaul and pricing It's hard to get the fiber to the towers. Monopoles usually don't sit right next to the houses. Most cell towers only have copper to them so Verizon will have to do a lot of new construction at a high price. See what happened when they wen't that route with FIOS. | |
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I assume they are going to have different caps for phone and modem users. I can see why Verizon won't release its LTE pricing as it is going to be really hard to justify ultra low caps. Maybe they should just ban video on smartphones. | |
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Canonsburg, PA | Re: Smartphone Cap and Modem Cap said by stanleycr1: Maybe they should just ban video on smartphones. Good idea because even if they manage to steal all of the spectrum from broadcast TV there will never ever be enough for IP video on smartphones unless God creates more. | |
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| | | | Re: Smartphone Cap and Modem Cap VZW isn't taking the cap route with LTE. It will apparently be billed in buckets of data, that is $/MB. | |
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Alexandria, VA
kudos:1 | said by stanleycr1:I can see why Verizon won't release its LTE pricing as it is going to be really hard to justify ultra low caps. No justification is really required. AT&T just made the move, and new iPhone users didn't even flinch. I don't believe you'll see much resistance when VZ makes the move with LTE...except around forums like this. | |
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kudos:1 | Re: Smartphone Cap and Modem Cap With netflix and hulu streaming to the ipad and iphone, I think people will begin learning quite a bit about data caps sooner than you think. | |
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kudos:1 | Re: Smartphone Cap and Modem Cap We'll see. At what bitrates will Netflix and Hulu stream to the iPhone? | |
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New York, NY | I hope they bill it some what around $1/MB. That way I can get 5 smartphones on my family plan. | |
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| | | | Re: Smartphone Cap and Modem Cap said by glinc:I hope they bill it some what around $1/MB. That way I can get 5 smartphones on my family plan. That's....$1000 per gigabyte. Are you being sarcastic? | |
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1 edit | Re: Smartphone Cap and Modem Cap Nope, because all 5 phones on my family plan wants smartphones but don't want to pay $150 on data plan only + voice plan. If they would do pricing like that then I can just get 5 smartphones and put all on wi-fi.
Plus I don't want to switch to Sprint or AT&t cuz they sux. | |
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| Re: Smartphone Cap and Modem Cap said by glinc:Nope, because all 5 phones on my family plan wants smartphones but don't want to pay $150 on data plan only + voice plan. If they would do pricing like that then I can just get 5 smartphones and put all on wi-fi. Plus I don't want to switch to Sprint or AT&t cuz they sux. I hope you realize that this isn't going to happen.
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Camden, TN | said by glinc:I hope they bill it some what around $1/MB. That way I can get 5 smartphones on my family plan. That insane. Thier smartphone overage is 5 cents per MB right now which is overpriced. Do you know how little a MB is? | |
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Camden, TN | now wait a minute As expected (given Verizon repeated keeps saying as much) the launch of LTE will be when Verizon announces they're killing unlimited data and moving to a metered billing system like AT&T's
I thought LTE was supposed to HELP with congestion issues thus isn't this going backwards? | |
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| | LTE was also supposed to be a fixed wireless solution LTE was going to compete with DSL and Cable and provide broadband in rural areas as well. Low caps will kill this plan. | |
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| | | Re: LTE was also supposed to be a fixed wireless solution VZW LTE is not modeled on caps or unlimited, it's modeled on $/MB. But yeah, still may not be cost effective to compete with cable/dsl unless they charge under $5/GB, which is not likely to happen. | |
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join:2008-06-22
Martinsville, IN | Re: LTE was also supposed to be a fixed wireless solution LTE will be a fixed wireless solution in rural areas. Many rural areas there is no DSL or cable competition. In these places it is either LTE or a T1. So as long as your bill is under $400/mo, LTE is a winner. | |
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1 edit | Re: LTE was also supposed to be a fixed wireless solution Rural areas also have access to satellite, as little as $60/month. There are high speed caps on most satellite plans, but at least on Hugesnet, there's a late-night "unlimited" time block as well. On a SOHO plan, I'm getting 15GB/month during normal hours, before speed throttling sets in (though it's metered per day, not per month, and there's no penalty if you do get slowed down, other than being slowed down).
LTE has to be competitive with this, or it's no rural broadband solution. If they're talking $50/month for a 20GB plan and $100/month for a 40GB plan, I'm listening. If they can't even compete with satellite, they're not taking rural broadband seriously.
And "seriously" folks, if you're in a rural area, you know very well that neither Verizon nor AT&T are thinking of LTE as a rural broadband solution, except when it lets them grab some government money. Like every other broadband technology, they'll be rolling out LTE where it overlays the existing population areas already well served with other forms of broadband. Just like Clear's done... they have reasonable coverage in much of Philadelphia, for example, but step outside the city (much less drive to the country), and you're dropped back to Sprint's 3G network. LTE is just the next cellular service they're offering, and they always upgrade the population centers before the rural areas. AT&T's not even supporting 3G yet in some rural areas, while they're rolling out HSPA+ in cities, and LTE next year, same as Verizon.
In short, you probably will have WiMax, LTE, FiOS, and Cable as a choice, or none-of-the-above, if you're in the Philadelphia/South Jersey area. No one's doing a damn thing for rural internet access. I mean, I live in NJ, not Kansas or Iowa, but satellite is the only option, short of a T1 or Frame Relay, I suppose. There's a local node across the street that supports DSL, but every decision made by every telco is based on population density. | |
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