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Company gets FCC approval for Oregon landing...
(old news - 07:22PM Wednesday Jan 16 2008)
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The recent quakes in Taiwan highlighted a lack of redundancy in the Pacific, where fiber runs have about half the capacity found across the Atlantic. A number of companies are planning to rectify that -- including Google. The search giant recently joined a coalition of Asia-Pac telecom companies in a project named "Unity," which will run a multi-terabit undersea communications cable across the Pacific sometime in 2009.

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Verizon announced back in 2006 they'd be taking part in a different, $500 million project to run a new, 11,000 mile cable from the United States directly to mainland China. Construction started on the Trans-Pacific Express project last September, and this week Verizon got the FCC's approval to land the fiber line in Oregon. The new pipe should provide some very serious bandwidth:
The TPE cable - being built by a consortium comprised of Verizon Business, China Telecom, China Netcom, China Unicom, Korea Telecom and Chunghwa Telecom (Taiwan) -- can support the equivalent of 62 million simultaneous phone calls, more than 60 times the overall capacity of the existing cable directly linking the U.S. and China. The cable will initially provide capacity of up to 1.28 terabits per second (Tbps), and the system will have a design capacity of up to 5.12 Tbps to support future Internet growth and advanced applications such as video and e-commerce.
According to Verizon, they're building out network facilities in Oregon to connect the TPE cable to their U.S. domestic network. The new cable will connect to the China mainland at Qingdao and Chongming. Additional landing points include Tanshui, Taiwan and Keoje, South Korea. The company says the project should be completed by August of this year.

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en102
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What ever happened to ..

Global Crossing ? Wasn't that part of their claim to fame.
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johan_hammy

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Re: What ever happened to ..

»www.globalcrossing.com/html/map05_11_05.html

They're still around and operating. However, even with Global Crossing's network, there isn't enough trans-pacific capacity to the right places from the right places.

Surfinusa
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Oh Great!

Now we get more spam at up to 5.12Tbps from China.

Don't we have enough china goods besides spam?

Why not spend the money on 11,000 miles of fiber to some of the desparately needed communities in the US.

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January 16th, @08:34PM

Re: Oh Great!

said by Surfinusa See Profile :

Why not spend the money on 11,000 miles of fiber to some of the desparately needed communities in the US.
Verizon added 25,000 miles of backbone fiber in 2007 in the US.
And that doesn't include FTTH local fiber.
»www.hardwarezone.com/news/view.p···66&cid=5
This year Verizon Business marked the halfway point in its deployment of the 50,000-mile, all-optical ultra long haul (ULH) U.S. network.

Check out Verizon's long haul worldwide fiber network here in this map:
»www.verizonbusiness.com/us/about···aps.fxml
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Re: Oh Great!

said by TK Junk Mail See Profile :

said by Surfinusa See Profile :

Why not spend the money on 11,000 miles of fiber to some of the desparately needed communities in the US.
Verizon added 25,000 miles of backbone fiber in 2007 in the US.
And that doesn't include FTTH local fiber.
»www.hardwarezone.com/news/view.p···66&cid=5
This year Verizon Business marked the halfway point in its deployment of the 50,000-mile, all-optical ultra long haul (ULH) U.S. network.

Check out Verizon's long haul worldwide fiber network here in this map:
»www.verizonbusiness.com/us/about···aps.fxml
Now that sounds alot better

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January 17th, @09:39AM

First they send us spam. Then they make toys with lead paint and roofees (or however it's spelled).

What's next? China starts training their military how to bunny hop like in CounterStrike? Korea raids the U.S. via starcraft zerg rushes? 14 million 8-year-old brats cursing us out in a language that won't even parse on most HTML systems (so that all we get is "???????" instead of the actual words) ?

Surfinusa
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Re: Oh Great!

exactly my point.

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China?

Exactly how much of the internet is or is not censored/blocked by the Chinese government? I always thought that they had really tight controls, so why the need for so much bandwidth for China? Maybe Chinabound See Profile will chime in and give an opinion....
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Re: China?

Hint* Our corporations want this, so they can do even more business with China. It has nothing to do with Chinese citizens being able to access restricted parts of the Internet....

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January 16th, @09:04PM

said by robbob340 See Profile :

Exactly how much of the internet is or is not censored/blocked by the Chinese government? I always thought that they had really tight controls, so why the need for so much bandwidth for China? Maybe Chinabound See Profile will chime in and give an opinion....
Don't forget the little bits of info about the links to South Korea and Taiwan included in this pipe. They both have a very large high bandwidth internet community. And both do a tremendous amount of business with US companies.

Also, the new fiber cable adds redundant and alternate network paths to other Asian countries as well as Verizon continues work on transforming its Trans-Pacific network in to a mesh network instead of a ring network. »www.hardwarezone.com/news/view.p···66&cid=5
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said by robbob340 See Profile :

Exactly how much of the internet is or is not censored/blocked by the Chinese government? I always thought that they had really tight controls, so why the need for so much bandwidth for China? Maybe Chinabound See Profile will chime in and give an opinion....
Its not as tight as the media suggests, its just really enforced at public places where majority of Chinese use internet. Just like if you use public library here they enforce certain things.
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Missing the point

Commerce is global...VZ(MCI) had this in place for awhile. It is merely a means of connecting the world, in more ways than one(redundancy), and a logical move for a Tier I provider. China's not stealing any jobs(no outsourcing), pure economic bliss in the Internet/Data age...No taking over of shipping ports like Hutchison Whampoa proposed, yet.

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Why Oregon?

I find it interesting that they'd land the US side of that cable in Oregon. My first choice would be Seattle. Portland doesn't have any major internet PoP like Seattle does. In fact if you look at major cable routes, Portland traffic frequently goes to seattle before leaving the pacific northwest.
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Re: Why Oregon?

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I find it interesting that they'd land the US side of that cable in Oregon. My first choice would be Seattle. Portland doesn't have any major internet PoP like Seattle does. In fact if you look at major cable routes, Portland traffic frequently goes to seattle before leaving the pacific northwest.
They already have a trans-Pacific cable terminating in Seattle. I suspect that the new cable is terminating in Portland in order to further their plan of creating a trans-Pacific mesh network.
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PDXPLT

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There are already 4 cables that land at Nedonna Beach - 1 transpacific, 1 to Hawaii, 1 to Alaska and one to California. There's an existing right of way to a big switching center in Hillsoboro, and Verizon already has alot of infrastructure in the area.

The ironic thing is, the right of way goes right through my neighborhood; 100's of Gbps flow through here, and none of us can get DSL from Verizon! I'm surpirsied no one's had a backhoe "accident" out of spite!

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Re: Why Oregon?

That's really interesting. How did you find out about the backbone in your area, or the switching center in Hillsboro? Is there a map or something of where this stuff is? I'd love to read about the various locations and such.
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oregonmatt

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Re: Why Oregon?

Info here:

»www.potb.org/fiber-optic.htm

The Tillamook Railroad right-of-way extends all the way to Hillsboro, but there's no map or mention in these pages of where the switching station is.
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»www.eyeball-series.org/cablew-eyeball.htm

Tyco has a facility east of Corneilius Pass on Evergreen.

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January 16th, @10:22PM

Drivers

There are so many driver downloads from Taiwan that seem to suffer from bandwidth issues. Perhaps this will help?

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Re: Drivers

lol

dmeyer

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Austin, TX

How do they do it?

It would be interesting to see the technical specs of this feat. I didn't think you could do a 11,000 mile fiber run without a repeater or two. How do they shield the cable from the huge pressure built up at immense huge depths under the ocean?
PDXPLT

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Re: How do they do it?

Well, you could start by looking at this ITU-T document, G.971, "General features of optical fibre submarine cable systems"
»www.itu.int/rec/dologin_pub.asp?···pe=items

Be forewarned, though: this was produced by the same UN Specialized Agency that most commentors on the website seen to think is currupt, incomponent, anti-American, and all-around worthless. Never mind that, as shown by this example, it has enabled global telecommunications ....

MPScan
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This shows, in simple terms, how the cable is designed.

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Subm···lain.svg
cornelius785

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mmmm

imagine all that spam that can flow through that pipe. i can just taste it now.
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