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Verizon's Droid X Sold Out
Though you should only have to wait a week (July 23)
by Karl Bode Friday 16-Jul-2010 tags: competition · business · wireless · hardware · alternatives
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Despite Verizon's insistence that they should have plenty of phones in stock to meet demand, the Droid X has officially sold out, and users will now have to wait until July 23 if they want to get their hands on the latest Android smartphone. Verizon recently struggled to get the also-Android-based HTC Incredible into user hands due to a shortage in OLED display components.
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"We have been successful at keeping up with early demand but at present inventory in some parts of the country inventory is either low or out," acknowledges Verizon. "Since we have weekly shipments planned, customers can still order phones and can expect them to be shipped on or before July 23."

But what about that news that the Droid X contained embedded systems that would brick the phone if it was tinkered with? Motorola responded to those concerns today:

The Droid X and a majority of Android consumer devices on the market today have a secured bootloader. In reference specifically to eFuse, the technology is not loaded with the purpose of preventing a consumer device from functioning, but rather ensuring for the user that the device only runs on updated and tested versions of software. If a device attempts to boot with unapproved software, it will go into recovery mode, and can re-boot once approved software is re-installed.

In short, the IBM-developed eFuse system will shut down a Droid X with an unapproved bootloader though it won't actually damage the phone. Users simply need to re-install "approved software" to get the device up and running again. That's certainly not-quite the type of openness many users would like to see, but it's not Droid X Armageddon for modders, either.

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patcat88

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welcome to disney

Why buy a DRMed locked down phone?

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said by patcat88:

Why buy a DRMed locked down phone?
You might as well ask that of 30 million other people in the US. Almost all phones are locked down to some extent.
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I used to be big into modding my original Droid, but grew tired of it since I, for some reason, get better performance/battery life with the stock roms. All I really gave up was wireless tether.

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Because some people don't care about modding?
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said by patcat88:

Why buy a DRMed locked down phone?
Motorola replies:

»www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/moto···s-efuse/

Short version - it is there so some hacker doesn't rootkit your phone. »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rootkit
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said by Romney2012:

Short version - it is there so some hacker doesn't rootkit your phone. »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rootkit
Bullshit

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said by digitalfreak:

said by Romney2012:

Short version - it is there so some hacker doesn't rootkit your phone. »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rootkit
Bullshit
^ this

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I disagree.

Imagine the issue of smartphone security as a tiny candle.

Imagine Verizon's fear of free tethering via consumer-modifiable phones a pool of acetone.

The candle was there, but it takes the pool of acetone to make it into a real fire. It's an interest to many that smartphones be secure, but it takes something that directly effects the profit margins of a large corporation to address the issue. This issue would've had to have been addressed sooner or later.

I believe that Verizon had something to do with it, but I think the primary reason for the lockdown is that smartphones are being used for more tasks one once delegated to a computer. As 1 GHz phones with excellent browsers, bank applications, and total access to my schedule, contacts, & life become more widespread, and more used for tasks one used to allocate to a computer, that more attacks on them are to be expected.

The motive from carriers to get rid of tethering is just gasoline on the fire that is, how do we prevent the smartphone world from becoming the windows world?

People are accustomed to how the PC market is, and almost accept the possibility of a virus on their computer, but we're not at the point where people will tolerate viruses on their phones, even if it is caused by user stupidity.
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said by thender:

People are accustomed to how the PC market is, and almost accept the possibility of a virus on their computer, but we're not at the point where people will tolerate viruses on their phones, even if it is caused by user stupidity.
So what about browser phishing on smartphones?

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said by patcat88:

Why buy a DRMed locked down phone?
Can't think of a single reason. Stick to HTC phones.
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If only they didn't come with that terrible Sense UI. Which causes a lot of problems when it comes to modding the phone too.

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said by imrf:

If only they didn't come with that terrible Sense UI. Which causes a lot of problems when it comes to modding the phone too.
What problems have you had with Sense UI?
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What problems have you had with the Sense UI? I'm running the latest EnergyROM on my Touch Pro and never had any issues with it.

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said by Simba7:

What problems have you had with the Sense UI? I'm running the latest EnergyROM on my Touch Pro and never had any issues with it.
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the sense for android not WM.

Sense 2.5/2.1 for WM 6.5 is flawless IMO, especially on the Energyroms by NRGZ28
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NEWSFLASH: Yes it is locked down for a reason but at the same time will *not* BRICK if you try to hack...I for one could care less but it is possible...someone somewhere will figure it out...

»www.androidcentral.com/motorola-···-seconds

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It's not an issue for the vast overwhelming majority of people who buy the device. Same as the restrictions of the iPhone platform. It's really just not that important to most people.
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Bingo! So far, I'm loving my Droid X. I don't care about loading custom ROMs. The only thing that I'm waiting for is root so that I can remove some of the bloatware. Beyond that, the DX is doing everything I could've hoped for.

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And that could make your stock 'ROM' not compatible.
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How so? I'm removing applications, not changing firmware.

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Last time, I think, in Droid you had to load custom firmware to get root access. I could be wrong, I never owned Motorola Android
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That's definitely not what I've read.
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said by openbox9:

That's definitely not what I've read.
Then you definitely haven't read enough.

You need to root in order to load custom firmware and vice versa.

You will not see root for the Droid X, if some modders do figure it out then cheers for them (I'm not saying it's impossible), but it's very difficult.

The whole point of this new security that Motrola has implemented is to prevent it from being rooted.
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said by Synbios:

You will not see root for the Droid X
Statements by what I believe are credible Android hackers suggest otherwise. I guess time will tell.
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said by Synbios:

You will not see root for the Droid X
Hmm, really?
»alldroid.org/default.aspx?g=posts&t=493

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said by openbox9:

said by Synbios:

You will not see root for the Droid X
Hmm, really?
»alldroid.org/default.aspx?g=posts&t=493
Are you sure? If there's some hacker out there with lots of time on his/her hands, they'll find a way.
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DX root was gained a couple of days ago. My DX will be rooted tonight after work.
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said by openbox9:

said by Synbios:

You will not see root for the Droid X
Hmm, really?
»alldroid.org/default.aspx?g=posts&t=493
Let me correct my statement:

You will not see custom ROMs for the Droid X.

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said by Synbios:

You will not see custom ROMs for the Droid X.
..maybe not soon.. But eventually..
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said by Synbios:

You will not see custom ROMs for the Droid X.
Incorrect again.
»www.koushikdutta.com/2010/08/dro···ery.html
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said by openbox9:

said by Synbios:

You will not see custom ROMs for the Droid X.
Incorrect again.
»www.koushikdutta.com/2010/08/dro···ery.html
Where's the custom ROM?
openbox9

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Here's one. I'm sure more are coming
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said by openbox9:

Here's one. I'm sure more are coming
FlyX was never finished and the main guy working on cracking the DX bootloader just threw his hands up in the air and said screw it. (see birdman)

Months later, still no hacked bootloader, still not real custom ROMs...

Most of the developers over at CM and other open source developers are enjoying their Nexus One's, Moto Droids, and HTC phones.

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You're a bit confused here - the OS and all the preinstalled applications are stored in a NAND partition and are literally flashed on. They're "firmware" to the extent that they're in flash memory, but the real firmware on the device (as you're probably thinking) is the baseband.

That's beside the point though - modify that ROM (the flash partition OS/software is stored in) and the eFuse checks might get you. Nobody has tried yet, but I'm betting Verizon/Motorola blow fuses with each version and then do a check to make sure you're on that version.
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We'll see what happens when root is gained. I'm betting (i.e. keeping my DX because so far it's been a great device) that removing apps, regardless of stored location, won't trip anything.

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Nice

I suppose I can forgive the DRM for the ROMs, given that you get unlimited data and you can actually hold the phone and use it.
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Still in contract

My contract with Sprint won't expire soon enough.
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looks like AT&T & Apple losing customers

looks like AT&T & Apple losing good customers.

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mna

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Tethering

Can the Droid X be tethered with the stock ROM without purchasing the tethering feature from VZ? Is there an app to buy?

TIA

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yes, google "pdanet"

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VZW Website now says 7/27 till Ship

VERIZON WIRELESS WEBSITE NOW SAYS 7/27 till Ship

»www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/stor···edOrder=
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Any numbers ... On how many sold ...

Any real world numbers on how many did they sell? I
would like to know that info ...

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Re: Any numbers ... On how many sold ...

No official number yet, they probably don't want to be compared to the iphone numbers, which i'm guessing are far superior.

All we need is a Verizon employee to leak the info, like Sprint.
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This is really Cute

People complain about the iPhone being locked into AT&T and so and so forth but at least you can jailbreak an iPhone.
Try that on a Verizon XDroid and here is what happens. Ever heard of an eFuse, check out the link below.

»thenextweb.com/mobile/2010/07/15···-iphone/

Good bye XDroid.........
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said by Transmaster:

People complain about the iPhone being locked into AT&T and so and so forth but at least you can jailbreak an iPhone.
Try that on a Verizon XDroid and here is what happens. Ever heard of an eFuse, check out the link below.

»thenextweb.com/mobile/2010/07/15···-iphone/

Good bye XDroid.........
That has already been confirmed as FALSE.
It will not blow anything, it just won't work till you go back to the stock rom.
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And that article is wrong, like most of them, eFuse does not cripple the phone beyond use. Motorola has stated that stated that the phone will simply not work until the standard ROM is reinstalled.

I do agree Moto and VZ screwed up on this one point. That will however not prevent me from getting this phone, unless a better alternative comes out before Christmas.

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Re: This is really Cute

I should have known that anything to do with Gizmodo would be total crap information

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Glad I bought the EVO

I still get the latest technology and the ability to install custom ROMs.

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