 patcat88 join:2002-04-05 Jamaica, NY kudos:1 | welcome to disney Why buy a DRMed locked down phone? | |
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 |  |  | | Re: welcome to disney I used to be big into modding my original Droid, but grew tired of it since I, for some reason, get better performance/battery life with the stock roms. All I really gave up was wireless tether. | |
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 |  The LimitPremium join:2007-09-25 Greensboro, NC kudos:2 | Because some people don't care about modding? -- Do or do not, there is no try! - Yoda | |
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 |  |  |  DrModemPremium join:2006-10-19 USA kudos:1 | Re: welcome to disney ^ this | |
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 |  |  |  thenderScreen tycoonPremium join:2009-01-01 Brooklyn, NY kudos:1 4 edits | I disagree.
Imagine the issue of smartphone security as a tiny candle.
Imagine Verizon's fear of free tethering via consumer-modifiable phones a pool of acetone.
The candle was there, but it takes the pool of acetone to make it into a real fire. It's an interest to many that smartphones be secure, but it takes something that directly effects the profit margins of a large corporation to address the issue. This issue would've had to have been addressed sooner or later.
I believe that Verizon had something to do with it, but I think the primary reason for the lockdown is that smartphones are being used for more tasks one once delegated to a computer. As 1 GHz phones with excellent browsers, bank applications, and total access to my schedule, contacts, & life become more widespread, and more used for tasks one used to allocate to a computer, that more attacks on them are to be expected.
The motive from carriers to get rid of tethering is just gasoline on the fire that is, how do we prevent the smartphone world from becoming the windows world?
People are accustomed to how the PC market is, and almost accept the possibility of a virus on their computer, but we're not at the point where people will tolerate viruses on their phones, even if it is caused by user stupidity. -- If you're going to repair your own Macbook, benefit from my experiences. | |
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 |  |  |  |  patcat88 join:2002-04-05 Jamaica, NY kudos:1 | Re: welcome to disney said by thender:People are accustomed to how the PC market is, and almost accept the possibility of a virus on their computer, but we're not at the point where people will tolerate viruses on their phones, even if it is caused by user stupidity. So what about browser phishing on smartphones? | |
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 |  AlcoholPremium join:2003-05-26 Climax, MI kudos:3 Reviews:
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| said by patcat88:Why buy a DRMed locked down phone? Can't think of a single reason. Stick to HTC phones. -- I found the key to success but somebody changed the lock. | |
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 |  |  imrfPremium join:2002-06-06 Utica, MI | Re: welcome to disney If only they didn't come with that terrible Sense UI. Which causes a lot of problems when it comes to modding the phone too. | |
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| Re: welcome to disney said by imrf:If only they didn't come with that terrible Sense UI. Which causes a lot of problems when it comes to modding the phone too. What problems have you had with Sense UI? -- I found the key to success but somebody changed the lock. | |
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 |  |  |  Simba7I Void Warranties join:2003-03-24 Billings, MT | What problems have you had with the Sense UI? I'm running the latest EnergyROM on my Touch Pro and never had any issues with it. | |
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| Re: welcome to disney said by Simba7:What problems have you had with the Sense UI? I'm running the latest EnergyROM on my Touch Pro and never had any issues with it. I'm pretty sure he's talking about the sense for android not WM.
Sense 2.5/2.1 for WM 6.5 is flawless IMO, especially on the Energyroms by NRGZ28 -- I found the key to success but somebody changed the lock. | |
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 |  | | NEWSFLASH: Yes it is locked down for a reason but at the same time will *not* BRICK if you try to hack...I for one could care less but it is possible...someone somewhere will figure it out...
»www.androidcentral.com/motorola-···-seconds | |
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 |  jsz0Premium join:2008-01-23 Jewett City, CT | It's not an issue for the vast overwhelming majority of people who buy the device. Same as the restrictions of the iPhone platform. It's really just not that important to most people. | |
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 |  |  openbox9 join:2004-01-26 Alexandria, VA kudos:2 | Re: welcome to disney Bingo! So far, I'm loving my Droid X. I don't care about loading custom ROMs. The only thing that I'm waiting for is root so that I can remove some of the bloatware. Beyond that, the DX is doing everything I could've hoped for. | |
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 |  |  |  TomekPremium join:2002-01-30 Valley Stream, NY | Re: welcome to disney And that could make your stock 'ROM' not compatible. -- Semper Fi | |
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 |  |  |  |  openbox9 join:2004-01-26 Alexandria, VA kudos:2 | Re: welcome to disney How so? I'm removing applications, not changing firmware. | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  TomekPremium join:2002-01-30 Valley Stream, NY | Re: welcome to disney Last time, I think, in Droid you had to load custom firmware to get root access. I could be wrong, I never owned Motorola Android -- Semper Fi | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  openbox9 join:2004-01-26 Alexandria, VA kudos:2 | Re: welcome to disney That's definitely not what I've read. | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  Synbios join:2002-05-18 Arlington, VA | Re: welcome to disney said by openbox9:That's definitely not what I've read. Then you definitely haven't read enough.
You need to root in order to load custom firmware and vice versa.
You will not see root for the Droid X, if some modders do figure it out then cheers for them (I'm not saying it's impossible), but it's very difficult.
The whole point of this new security that Motrola has implemented is to prevent it from being rooted. | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  openbox9 join:2004-01-26 Alexandria, VA kudos:2 | Re: welcome to disney said by Synbios:You will not see root for the Droid X Statements by what I believe are credible Android hackers suggest otherwise. I guess time will tell. | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  Simba7I Void Warranties join:2003-03-24 Billings, MT | Re: welcome to disney Are you sure? If there's some hacker out there with lots of time on his/her hands, they'll find a way. -- Bresnan 15M/1M MyWS[E5200@3.75GHz,4GB RAM,2x1TB HDDs,Win7] WifeWS[A64@2GHz,2GB RAM,120GB HDD,Win7] Router[2xP3@1GHz,512MB RAM,18GB HDD,SMC 8432BTA,2xDigital DE504,Compaq NC3131,Intel Pro/1000MT,IBM Gigabit Ethernet-SX,Allied Telesyn AT2560FX,Gentoo Linux] | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  openbox9 join:2004-01-26 Alexandria, VA kudos:2 | Re: welcome to disney DX root was gained a couple of days ago. My DX will be rooted tonight after work. | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  Synbios join:2002-05-18 Arlington, VA | Let me correct my statement:
You will not see custom ROMs for the Droid X. | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  Synbios join:2002-05-18 Arlington, VA | Re: welcome to disney Where's the custom ROM? | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  openbox9 join:2004-01-26 Alexandria, VA kudos:2 | Re: welcome to disney Here's one. I'm sure more are coming  | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  Synbios join:2002-05-18 Arlington, VA 1 edit | Re: welcome to disney FlyX was never finished and the main guy working on cracking the DX bootloader just threw his hands up in the air and said screw it. (see birdman)
Months later, still no hacked bootloader, still not real custom ROMs...
Most of the developers over at CM and other open source developers are enjoying their Nexus One's, Moto Droids, and HTC phones. | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  NerdtalkerWorking Hard, Or Hardly Working?Premium,MVM join:2003-02-18 Tucson, AZ | You're a bit confused here - the OS and all the preinstalled applications are stored in a NAND partition and are literally flashed on. They're "firmware" to the extent that they're in flash memory, but the real firmware on the device (as you're probably thinking) is the baseband.
That's beside the point though - modify that ROM (the flash partition OS/software is stored in) and the eFuse checks might get you. Nobody has tried yet, but I'm betting Verizon/Motorola blow fuses with each version and then do a check to make sure you're on that version. -- "Some people never see the light till it shines thru bullet holes." -Bruce Cockburn
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  openbox9 join:2004-01-26 Alexandria, VA kudos:2 | Re: welcome to disney We'll see what happens when root is gained. I'm betting (i.e. keeping my DX because so far it's been a great device) that removing apps, regardless of stored location, won't trip anything. | |
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 pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium join:2002-05-02 Mount Airy, MD | Nice
I suppose I can forgive the DRM for the ROMs, given that you get unlimited data and you can actually hold the phone and use it. -- "Net Neutrality" zealots - the people you can thank for your capped Internet service. | |
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 mna join:2002-01-29 Reston, VA | Tethering Can the Droid X be tethered with the stock ROM without purchasing the tethering feature from VZ? Is there an app to buy?
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 | | Any numbers ... On how many sold ... Any real world numbers on how many did they sell? I would like to know that info ... | |
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| Re: Any numbers ... On how many sold ... No official number yet, they probably don't want to be compared to the iphone numbers, which i'm guessing are far superior.
All we need is a Verizon employee to leak the info, like Sprint. -- I found the key to success but somebody changed the lock. | |
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 |  |  TransmasterDon't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus join:2001-06-20 Cheyenne, WY | This is really Cute People complain about the iPhone being locked into AT&T and so and so forth but at least you can jailbreak an iPhone. Try that on a Verizon XDroid and here is what happens. Ever heard of an eFuse, check out the link below.
»thenextweb.com/mobile/2010/07/15···-iphone/
Good bye XDroid.........  -- I am quite sure now that often, very often, in matters concerning religion and politics a man's reasoning powers are not above the monkey's. - Mark Twain in Eruption | |
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| Re: This is really Cute said by Transmaster:People complain about the iPhone being locked into AT&T and so and so forth but at least you can jailbreak an iPhone. Try that on a Verizon XDroid and here is what happens. Ever heard of an eFuse, check out the link below. » thenextweb.com/mobile/2010/07/15···-iphone/Good bye XDroid......... That has already been confirmed as FALSE. It will not blow anything, it just won't work till you go back to the stock rom. -- I found the key to success but somebody changed the lock. | |
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 |  |  |  |  TransmasterDon't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus join:2001-06-20 Cheyenne, WY | Re: This is really Cute I should have known that anything to do with Gizmodo would be total crap information  | |
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 ag1010 join:2001-06-11 Kenosha, WI | Glad I bought the EVO
I still get the latest technology and the ability to install custom ROMs. | |
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