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Verizon's Openness Program Four Years Later
From Revolutionary Promise to Bureaucratic Tangle
by Karl Bode Thursday 15-Sep-2011 tags: business · wireless · hardware · bandwidth · wireless
Back in 2007 you might recall that Verizon announced their dedication to open networks and platforms via something they called the Open Handset Alliance, which was a supposed dedication to allowing users the access to any handset and app of their choice. You also might recall the press got incredibly gushy about Verizon's new love of openness before Verizon actually accomplished anything, praising the company for completely changing their locked down, corporate telco culture.

Several years later talk about the open pledge has died down, and Verizon told some press outlets this week at their developer's conference that the program is "more about procedures and certification than an actual program these days."

To their credit, Verizon's been a bit less draconian than some in terms of crippling handsets thanks to their initial need to embrace Android to fend off the AT&T iPhone exclusive. However, their dedication to "openness" still includes trying to block tethering applications for app stores and working with Google to crush neutrality rules for wireless that would have required disclosure of network management practices.

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qworster

join:2001-11-25
Bryn Mawr, PA

More corporate bull$hit!

Does any of this surprise you? It doesn't surprise me.

Lesson 1 about corporate behavior: CORPORATIONS LIE LIKE RUGS!

Lesson 2: See lesson 1.
brawney
Premium
join:2002-03-02
Frederick, MD

Re: More corporate bull$hit!

They are greedy pigs. VZ/VZW steals money from it's customers all the time. They don't give a shit because even if they get caught they may have to pay a fine, but the fine is never as much as they scammed out of their customers anyway. So in the end they still make out.

Verizon Overbills 133,000 Users in Three States

Verizon Wireless Phantom $1.99 Data Usage Fee

Verizon Strikes $25 Million FCC Settlement Over Bogus Fee

Verizon Settles Cell Phone Billing Class Action for $90 Million

Verizon Wireless Bill Cramming Class Action Lawsuit

Verizon Overcharges the Government, Gets Slapped With $93 Million Fine
(They don't give a shit. They'll even cheat Uncle Sam!)

Several of these billing problems affected me when I was a customer of VZ and VZW. I am happy to say that I am now totally Verizon free, and I got out without paying those f'ers a single ETF penny.
NateCohen

join:2005-10-10
Schenectady, NY

Bloatware

Just let me remove all the crap I don't want on my phone and I'll be happy.

Billy1123

@uky.edu

Easy

Load custom ROMs on your android phones, or jailbreak your Iphones. All is good after that.
openbox9
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japan
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Re: Easy

I don't understand why people continue whining about openness when many solutions exist. After all, if everything were truly open, people would need to do the legwork to get their devices configured anyway.
hottboiinnc
ME

join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH

Re: Easy

very very true. also with the "openness" what happens if your device breaks? do you expect your new carrier to replace that phone or insure it even though you bought it 3 years ago from another provider?

Maxo
Your tax dollars at work.
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join:2002-11-04
Tallahassee, FL

Re: Easy

said by openbox9:

if everything were truly open, people would need to do the legwork to get their devices configured anyway.

That's certainly not true. All you need to do is give your carrier your phone's ESN/EIN/etc, and then dial their activation number. It's no different than carrier provided devices.
said by hottboiinnc:

do you expect your new carrier to replace that phone or insure it even though you bought it 3 years ago from another provider?

This has nothing to do with openness either. The company you purchased your device through will support the device as outlined by their TOS. My ISP does not provide support for my PC, why should my phone company provide support for my phone?
What happens if my device breaks? I get a new one it if it is under warranty or covered under insurance, or I buy a new one if it is not ... just like I do today.
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openbox9
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Re: Easy

said by Maxo:

said by openbox9:

if everything were truly open, people would need to do the legwork to get their devices configured anyway.

That's certainly not true. All you need to do is give your carrier your phone's ESN/EIN/etc, and then dial their activation number.

I'm thinking legwork as far as installing/changing and configuring the OS. The device identification that you refer to happens already.

Maxo
Your tax dollars at work.
Premium,VIP
join:2002-11-04
Tallahassee, FL

Re: Easy

But devices, just like computers, come with the OS already installed. Why would carriers allowing open access to the network change any of this? What is it about open that demands the device come without any OS preinstalled by the device maker?
openbox9
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Re: Easy

How is that computer with preinstalled software different than a phone with preinstalled software?

Maxo
Your tax dollars at work.
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join:2002-11-04
Tallahassee, FL

Re: Easy

said by openbox9:

How is that computer with preinstalled software different than a phone with preinstalled software?

What is the point you are trying to make? What does preinstalled software on a phone have to do with carriers having open networks?
NateCohen

join:2005-10-10
Schenectady, NY
Uh I have a Droid Bionic which comes with a locked bootloader...sorry I can't just load a custom ROM.
openbox9
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japan
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Re: Easy

My DX with a locked bootloader running CM7 begs to differ. You can load custom software, you just can't play with the kernel.

Paulster

@rcn.com

Open phones

T-Mobile is the only one

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