The FCC will ignore this as long as Verizon keeps slipping them cash under the table. Money buys ignorance of improper or illegal behavior.
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Re: The FCC
said by old_wiz_60:But Google has googles of money.
will ignore this as long as Verizon keeps slipping them cash under the table. Money buys ignorance of improper or illegal behavior.
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Re: not everything is a conspriacy folks
said by TBBroadband:The secure element is necessary for Google Wallet to work using NFC. To put it in simpler terms, the secure element stores the virtual Mastercard number that gets transmitted to payment terminals when you use Google Wallet. It's the only way to do secure payments over NFC, which is more reliable that some sort of bar-code, and arguably more secure. The Google boogeyman is not out to get you. The only use for the secure element is secure NFC communication, and nothing except Google wallet is using it right now. Eventually ISIS will use it, but it may require using a secure element built into a SIM card instead of on the phone's motherboard. Verizon is trying to pull the wool over the FCC's eyes' here; they don't want google wallet to get a foothold on the devices on their network (which they consider to be their devices, consumer choice be damned) before they can launch their competing ISIS product.
Another way for Google to track you and sell your information to others. Sounds like the secure element is the part of the phone where VZ stores it's own information about the phone, etc. There is no reason why Google should/would need access to that. I don't blame VZW one bit on this as I would want them to protect me and my services FROM Google.
Re: not everything is a conspriacy folks
said by TBBroadband:NFC is the internationally standardized best system. You can store the credit card number on a secure element built into the phone, or a secure element built into the SIM card. That's why it's necessary. Verizon, AT&T and T-Mobile all will be using the secure element with their ISIS service, it's currently live in two US cities. (see here: »www.paywithisis.com/secure.xhtml) All of the bullets on that page are applicable to Google Wallet.(except the privacy one, and google has an opt-out at the bottom of this page »wallet.google.com/files/privacy.html) Verizon knows that the secure element is necessary, and that's why they're blocking Google from using it. To be clear: everyone that does NFC payments needs access to the secure element, Google has just been the first company to do so in the US. This stuff has been in Japan for 4 years, the US carriers have held back its adoption so that they can cash in, and in Verizon's case, it's a clear violation of the conditions placed on the spectrum that they bought.
Well Google needs to come up with a better system then. And if its a Google product, yes you should be concerned with what they want access to that part of the phone for when nobody else does.
And again; Google should have built their own system, Sprint's always been for sale. Hell they could have purchased TMO-USA
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Re: Consumer Rights
said by dickie541:Yes. Where is Washington State Attorney General Bob Ferguson when there is a real concern about corporations misleading residents and disabling features for anti competitive reasons? [Contact Him][»www.atg.wa.gov/ContactUs.aspx#By_phone]
Where is the Washington AG on this one?
San Francisco, CA
why? google wallet kinda sucks. Why aren't people complaining about sprint also? Sprint seems to be blocking Google wallet too.
Actually, there is a work around and I have Google wallet working on the sprint optimus g. See xda for details.
Umm, Google wallet kinda sucks. It uses the MasterCard pay pass system, so the merchant needs to be pay pass equipped. And as you guessed, not too many merchants are. The only ones I really use are peets, MCD, and once at whole foods.
And if you are like me and thought the swipe checkout is a cool NFC only thing, it is not. There are visa, mc, and amex credit cards with the built innfc chip for the pay pass system, so they can all do the swipe checkout. Google wallet swipe checkout is not that unique, and actually less practical than a standard cc with pay pass.