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Videotron Offers 120 Mbps Service
With 170 GB downstream and 30 GB upstream cap
by Karl Bode Wednesday 22-Sep-2010 tags: coverage · business · bandwidth · cable · world · Videotron
Videotron was the first North American cable operator to deploy speedier DOCSIS 3.0 upgrades in the field, and this week the company announced the launch of a 120 Mbps downstream, 20 Mbps upstream service. According to a Videotron statement, they're calling the new tier "Ultimate Speed Internet 120," and delivering it to about 80% of the greater Québec City area. The tier starts at $150, and comes with a download cap of 170 GB and an upload limit of 30 GB, which the company insists is "well in excess of the current needs of heavy bandwidth users."

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EUS
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It's apparant that Videotron

Has no idea what the "current needs" of their customers are.
LocutusBorg
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Re: It's apparant that Videotron

I UL that cap every day

The DL "might" take 4 days

Mimiga King

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Awesome speed | joke of a cap

In current need of their Casual customers, I agree but, those customers aren't the one who're willing to pay 150$ for internet nor know how to use 120 mbps.

We people who know how to use that bandwidth, usually use, at a bare minimum, 200 GB on download ONLY. ( Key word --> a MINIMUM! )

EDIT --> Using all the Download AND upload cap can be done within 3 hours and a half...

Also, Bare with me when I say that the Overage is about 52$/hour if you download at full speed.

Duramax08
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another

reach your cap in no time.

OldschoolDSL
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Comcast = 200GB Cap

And I've never gone over even when using xBox Live, Netflix, Pandora, PS3 Online, Google Video Chat, VoIp Phone calls, ect....ect....

Although 170GB maybe a little close to what I sometimes come to.

Mimiga King

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Re: Comcast = 200GB Cap

Except Netflix and Google Video, all the rest barely take 100KB/s together. This is only equal to 9GB/Month

Pandora Might takes 150KB/s depending on the bitrate

OldschoolDSL
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I also use iTunes & Hulu (and other TV show sites)

So OTHER then downloading illegal file sharing or making yourself a HOST for ISO files.... What would anyone be doing to go over?

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Re: Comcast = 200GB Cap

said by OldschoolDSL:

I also use iTunes & Hulu (and other TV show sites)

So OTHER then downloading illegal file sharing or making yourself a HOST for ISO files.... What would anyone be doing to go over?
How bout Netflix and watching a whole 10 years of series? That eats up bandwidth quite a bit here. Gamespot's HD video downloads also come to mind. I've done 80GBs at once before.

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said by Chris 313:

said by OldschoolDSL:

I also use iTunes & Hulu (and other TV show sites)

So OTHER then downloading illegal file sharing or making yourself a HOST for ISO files.... What would anyone be doing to go over?
How bout Netflix and watching a whole 10 years of series? That eats up bandwidth quite a bit here. Gamespot's HD video downloads also come to mind. I've done 80GBs at once before.
Again I do use Netflix and so does my family who live with me (all 9 people). We also game on both an xBox & Ps3.

With a total of 3 PC's and 1 Apple Computer (not counting the iPad & 2 iTunes)
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Let's use the 170GB download and 30GB upload cap for Videotron.

An HD video episode is ~2GB. Let's go with two of those per day. That's 4GB, 120GB per month.

Add in two hours of Pandora, with Pandora One for 192kbps quality. 173MB per day, ~5GB per month.

Add 30 minutes of decent-quality youTube per day. 1 Mbps, multiplied by 30 minutes, equals 225 MB per day, so ~7GB per month.

Add in updates for four computers at 2GB per computer per month. That number will very, but the cap won't. 8GB.

Add 10GB for heavy web surfing throughout the month.

You're at 150GB. Mix in some Netflix movies or Steam game downloads and you're over your cap.

On uploads, using an online backup service would blow through that cap relatively quickly. Also, since you're buying a high-end tier, you're probably using it for HD video uploads or something like that. 1GB of uploading per day isn't that difficult to hit.

Of course all of the above assumes that you're using your internet as a replacement for TV. No cable company wants that...

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I run my own servers, and can serve more than 30gigs/month of 'legal' content easily.

There seems to be an odd situation that has been building over the last few years whereby the first assumption is that all people who may want to use their connection are breaking copyright 'laws'.
It bothers me, as it shows that perhaps people have lost their imagination; how communications can only fit into a narrowly defined set of rules. Even DSLR forum mods used to actively dissuade these people from making these types of comments, not so much anymore.
Anyway, I hope I'm wrong about how people's thinking about bandwidth/caps are becoming more narrowly defined, but I don't think so.
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Re: Comcast = 200GB Cap

said by EUS:

I run my own servers,
Which is prohibited on most residential ISP networks.

EUS
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Videotron

This particular provider's release states this service is great for hosting, sorry, sharing your photos, etc. Therefor not against their ToS.
Hmm, link from news article seems to give 500 error now.

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said by EUS:

This particular provider's release states this service is great for hosting, sorry, sharing your photos, etc. Therefor not against their ToS.
Hmm, link from news article seems to give 500 error now.
That's NOT good for hosting.

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said by EUS:

I run my own servers, and can serve more than 30gigs/month of 'legal' content easily.

There seems to be an odd situation that has been building over the last few years whereby the first assumption is that all people who may want to use their connection are breaking copyright 'laws'.
It bothers me, as it shows that perhaps people have lost their imagination; how communications can only fit into a narrowly defined set of rules. Even DSLR forum mods used to actively dissuade these people from making these types of comments, not so much anymore.
Anyway, I hope I'm wrong about how people's thinking about bandwidth/caps are becoming more narrowly defined, but I don't think so.
And with the 1st line, you admit that you are using your connection for "company use" .... ie.... Hosting

Thus a home account is not right for you. Thus the 170 or 200GB would not apply to you on a business account
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Re: Comcast = 200GB Cap

Videotron's business services have no caps on their 2.5, 7.5, or 10Mbps tiers, but their 30Mbps and 50Mbps tiers do have caps (250 and 300 GB per month respectively).

However, it should be noted that their most popular residential package, their 7.5Mbps cable internet for $42.95/mth, comes with a 30GB combined cap. Total.

I'm sure Netflix HD streaming is great fun on a 30GB per month cap. If you watch one HD movie a day, you'll hit that cap in 1-2 weeks.
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said by OldschoolDSL:

And I've never gone over even when using xBox Live, Netflix, Pandora, PS3 Online, Google Video Chat, VoIp Phone calls, ect....ect....

Although 170GB maybe a little close to what I sometimes come to.
How many people live with you?

How much do they use the internet?
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Canada **c**

God, why do they have so restrictive caps? Especially on high end tiers? Their equivalent of FCC is a way worse than ours or European Commission in EU (which does a better job in fighting anticompetitive tricks).

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Videotron

Just a play

This is merely a political play to be able to advertise as "the fastest ISP in Quebec/Canada". Obviously such ridiculous caps are nowhere near the needs of someone who would pay 150$ for that kind of speed, but they don't mind saying things like "well in excess of the current needs of heavy bandwidth users" because 90% of the population, even the journalists themselves, have no idea what gigabytes are in the first place.

Considering most recent games released on Steam/D2D can be over 20GB, one HD episode is 1.3GB to stream each, 170GB is very little. 500GB would make a lot more sense, especially for that kind of money.
jca2050
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Cap

120 mbps service with a 170gb cap? bwhahahhah

Theoretically you could hit your cap in just over 3 hours, AWESOME

Martindziad
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LoL

Wow 170 GB down and an upload limit of 30 GB

I have no words

NoData

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Nice cap...

It's like driving a jet-car in an alley; You can probably start the engine, but don't open the gas too much!
deesto

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just tether to your "unlimited data" phone connection...

Oh, wait: those will soon be capped as well.
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