 sansri88digital is herePremium join:2005-12-17 New York, NY kudos:1 | Comcast, please!! Please test it here whenever you decide to start testing!! | |
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 | | mehhh mehhh wake me up when they have more upstream bandwidth... | |
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 jlanci join:2005-08-30 Staten Island, NY | u have got to be kidding me The new 50 Mbps service (with 1.5 Mbps Upstream)
It figures... they offer you all that bandwidth and then skimp out on the upload. What a waste. | |
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 |  fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium join:2005-05-20 kudos:3 | Re: u have got to be kidding me A waste? to you? yes.. to those that operate the business? no. Truth is, and most people don't want to see this or accept it, but the majority of people download, not upload.
1.5 isn't the greatest, but it's better than 384 or 512.
What would be "not a waste" to you? and answer it in two ways..
1) Answer it as yourself based on your end use 2) Answer it as if you were the CTO of the company providing the service.
If it were me? I'd like to see them push out at 2 or 5.. but right now, *at this time* if I were running a business and taking into account ALL aspects and sides of the issue, I wouldn't be jumping out of my seat to do a 50/50 or 100/100 plan right now.. just not cost effective in this country.. and especially in pre-cert gear. -- "Complaining is the least path of resistance for the self-serving, the lazy, and Im told its a womans prerogative..." | |
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 |  |  jlanci join:2005-08-30 Staten Island, NY | Re: u have got to be kidding me said by fiberguy:A waste? to you? yes.. to those that operate the business? no. Truth is, and most people don't want to see this or accept it, but the majority of people download, not upload. -Agree1.5 isn't the greatest, but it's better than 384 or 512. -Agree, the higher the betterWhat would be "not a waste" to you? and answer it in two ways.. 1) Answer it as yourself based on your end use 2) Answer it as if you were the CTO of the company providing the service. -Honestly I would love to have faster speeds, because right now my so called 10/500k sucks. I can tell when someone is using the internet (my brother gaming on the other computer) or on our Vonage phone. My web pages load terribly slow. Not so slow but to me definately noticeable. Maybe its because I'm a techy and I just notice things like that and they bug me, I dunno. If I were the CTO of the company then I say if you got it then use it. Who knows people and I'm talking big businesses may want and pay for it. You never know unless you try, but in Telecom Corporate America the big ISP's think they know whats best for you. I just don't want them to make those decisions.If it were me? I'd like to see them push out at 2 or 5.. but right now, *at this time* if I were running a business and taking into account ALL aspects and sides of the issue, I wouldn't be jumping out of my seat to do a 50/50 or 100/100 plan right now.. just not cost effective in this country.. and especially in pre-cert gear. -Basically my point is it just looks a little wierd to have that much speed and a small chunk of it upload, I mean look at it on a bar graph it would look silly. About the cost, the reason it is so high is because they don't sell that gear to make money back to pay for it so that manufacturing costs can go down. | |
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 | | not docsis 3.0 more like doctheupload 48.5mbit?
Bugs Bunny had it right...
Beeeah, what UP, doc? 1.5? 1.5?
That's not enough, folks. | |
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 |  jgkoltPremium join:2004-02-21 Lakewood, OH | Re: not docsis 3.0 not suprising. oversell the download and ignore the upload. but then they would have to deal with illegal file sharing taking up more bandwidth. hmm it would still be nice to have faster upload. you can get a faster upload in the states. | |
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 | | Yep, where is the upstream. Companies don't want to give too much upstream, because it costs them money. Their way of controlling cost is to limit upstream. | |
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 |  openbox9 join:2004-01-26 Alexandria, VA kudos:2 | Re: Yep, where is the upstream. There's a cost for everything.
Take your pick. More upstream would equal: - Tighter caps - More shaping efforts - More expensive service - Lesser service quality
All-in-all, 1.5 Mbps is fairly good IMO for a residential account...especially for that price. Yes, it is out of proportion with the download bandwidth, but I assume the 50 Mbps is there mainly as a marketing tactic. "Hey, look how fast our service is." | |
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 ztmikeMark for moderationPremium join:2001-08-02 Michigan City, IN | Comcast where you at? "Back here in the States, CableLabs is getting ready to start testing DOCSIS 3.0 modems and termination systems starting in October."
Does this mean maybe the major cable companys will be starting docsis 3 next month? In FiOS areas only probably..  | |
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 |  wvcaverPremium join:2005-04-17 Millersburg, OH | Re: Comcast where you at? And then there sit's Embarq ! | |
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 |  |  | | Re: Comcast where you at? Keeping the current docsis 2 in mind. Most cable companys dont offer speeds close to maxing out docsis 2 yet. | |
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 |  |  |  | | Re: Comcast where you at? said by Lowtarget:Keeping the current docsis 2 in mind. Most cable companys dont offer speeds close to maxing out docsis 2 yet. Try maxing out the 1.X spec first... 38mbit down, 9.X up... the cheapskates, build more nodes and deploy more fiber. | |
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Why only go at 50Mbps? Boost wich has an uncapped download and runs at the max of docsis 2 is about 38Mbps. Shouldnt they start with something higher? | |
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 | | available in america? if so, then sign me up. i would pay that and more for those speeds. i pay more than that now for a fraction of those speeds. | |
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 CuchulainnThe Roar of the Masses Could be Farts join:2000-11-09 Chevy Chase, MD 1 edit | Oh Puleeze! This is Virgin Media - F.K.A. ntHell. They will find a way to screw it up. And you'll be on the phone at 50p a minute to Bengalooristan, fighting for tech support with some barely literate Martian at the other end of the phone who is INSISTING that the problem is a virus or peer to peer software.
Virgin Media will go belly up before this gets anywhere. Keep in mind they have a large, nearly-unserviceable debt burden as it is right now. Where are they going to find the cash to roll this out? Branson going to pull half a billion quid out of his arse? -- Middle age is the time when your broad mind and your narrow waist switch places.
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 RobIn Deo speramus, God Bless the USAPremium join:2001-08-25 Kendall, FL kudos:2 | Question for the Cable Experts.. How much of a upgrade is required to go from Doc 1.0/1.1 to Doc 3.0, compared to Doc 2.0 to Doc 3.0? In other words, if a MSO has a network operating in Doc 2.0 and a network operating in Doc 1.0/1.1, which network are they more likely to upgrade first? | |
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 |  RARPSL join:1999-12-08 Suffern, NY | Re: Question for the Cable Experts.. said by Rob:How much of a upgrade is required to go from Doc 1.0/1.1 to Doc 3.0, compared to Doc 2.0 to Doc 3.0? In other words, if a MSO has a network operating in Doc 2.0 and a network operating in Doc 1.0/1.1, which network are they more likely to upgrade first? The upgrade to 3.0 REQUIRES that the Nodes be split since 3.0 bonding means that your modem is talking via more than one channel at the same time and thus there needs to be more Channels to support the same number of customers on the node (IOW: A 3.0 node running at 50Mbs can support less users than a 30Mbs node with 3 or so users per Channel so you must split the node to keep the concurrent bandwidth down). 1.x/2.0 allocates only one channel per user so even if more than one user is assigned the same channel, you can get more users on a node than with 3.0 (since a maxed out channel will not affect the users on a different channel). | |
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 | | more upload speed didn't know that Virgin was an isp, but know i know, 50mbps for 65 a month in the Uk is good, but plz! more upload speed plz!! not 1.5mbps, 2!  | |
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 |  aaronwtPremium join:2004-11-07 Woodbridge, VA | Re: more upload speed I'll keep my 30mbs down and 5mbs up from FIOS for $55 a month. Although I do still have my Comcast 8mbs tier connected but it doesn't compare. And hopefully FIOS will bump up the tier to 50/5 sometime in the next 6 months. | |
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 bencPremium join:2007-06-17 Glen Carbon, IL Reviews:
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| Meh... I'd rather have 16/8 instead. If anything, I consider upload to be more important than download. Download almost always exceeds the upload anyway
But then again I like the ability to run servers and allow for RDP/VNC at a decent speed. So I suppose a "residential" package is likely to be useless to me, unless it somehow doesn't have a "no servers allowed" clause. | |
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 NeO_JAWArsenal Are No1Premium join:2002-01-24 Surrey, UK | Virgin is capped!
Virgin Media are introduced speed capping measures that for users who download large amounts from the Net during peak hours. Peak hours have been defined as 4pm to midnight which is much longer than for most other ISPs, who consider 6pm to 10pm to be the peak.
Virgin claim that only 5% of downloaders will be affected, but looking at the bands Im not too sure:
* M tier users who download over 350MB will have their speed capped at 1Mbps during peak * L tier users who download over 750MB will have their speed restricted to 2Mbps during peak * XL users who download over 3GB in peak hours will have their speed restricted to 5Mbps -- »www.officialssandd.co.uk - BF2 Clan site | |
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 | | Their network can't cope with 20Mb yet! Since they upgraded the 10mb service to 20mb, they have had to introduce peak time capping as a way to stop the system fall over, and it hasn't worked a lot of the time. There are countless stories of paying for 20mb and getting 2mb.
I stuck with the 2mb service because I don't need the extra, but a lot of the heavier users have gone to ADSL LLU providers such as Be, who offer unlimited 24mb/1.3, and seem to be very solid.
Pity I can't get it in my area. | |
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