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Virgin Mobile Tries to Lure T-Mobile Users With $100
As Sprint Tries to Counter T-Mobile's New Momentum
by Karl Bode 08:28AM Thursday Apr 11 2013
Sprint-owned Virgin Mobile this week started taking aim at T-Mobile customers, an advertisement on the company website promising T-Mobile users $100 in credit if they make the switch to Virgin Mobile. The move is the first of probably many moves by Sprint intended to counter T-Mobile's new no contract or phone subsidy pricing models launched last month alongside the new T-Mobile LTE network. T-Mobile tells CNET they're not worried about the offer, are seeing strong "momentum" since their strategy shift, and don't intend to counter with any promotions of their own.

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brianiscool

join:2000-08-16
Tampa, FL
kudos:1

I have Simple Mobile

Does that count as T-mobile?
barn25

join:2005-11-17
Springfield, IL

Re: I have Simple Mobile

Yup.

atuarre
Here come the drums
Premium
join:2004-02-14
Conroe, TX

RE

Sprint won't get anyone until they get their backhaul issues fixed. The only reason I have not left them because if they actually do get their act together (improve the backhaul situation and the combining on one base station) the service could be often but I do not think the improvements will come unless the Japanese step in after the Softbank acquisition is approved.
elefante72

join:2010-12-03
East Amherst, NY

Re: RE

We were w/ VM for years. After the iphone launch it just brought the network to it's knees. We went from 700-800k to 128kbps on a GOOD day. It was only $25, but then VM wouldn't allow any new phones and the older phones had their day. The Moto Triumph (that rebranded Hauwei POS) was just never fixed. Great screen tho. I had to root and babysit that one, just like every other VM phone.

Give most Sprints phones (minus a few towns) are on 3G or alternatively Wimax in fits, they have a lot of offloading on their networks to LTE which is a baby. It took big red about 2 years to free up 50%, so look for 2015 until Sprint's network is back in shape. Sprint however does allow LTE for MVNO, unique in this space, so we will see how that goes. Since Sprint is "unlimited" they obviously have to deprioritize or throttle to keep things afloat (old networks not so good).

From a coverage perspective, VM would NOT roam on Verizon because in a number of instance my phone (Verizon) would have bars and the Mrs phone no service.

ST on the other hand w/ TMO happily roams on 3PP including AT&T networks (you can easily tell), and have yet to hit a service area where GSM (WCDMA is def shady) yet. Granted this is the East coast only, and I know mid-america is a prob for TMO.

With that said if you live in the NE, Verizon is your king, bar none. There are very little roaming providers, it's big red backyard. Now that Verizon is getting into MVNO love with their evacuated 3G network, this will allow love of MVNO networks again, WHEN they allow a phone (other than iphone) w/ LTE radio (used or not) on the network. For now it's strictly ghetto old skool phones, and that's a shame. I would LOVE a razr maxx and use that for my daily....I'm not paying $120 tho (NYS postpaid taxes are like 20%)... Straighttalk/Net10 just launched Verizon BYOP for $45/$50 (retail), so once they allow LTE phones (prob though a SIM program) it will be gangbusters.

I also had PPC for years, and Verizon doesn't play parlor tricks like I've seen AT&T MVNO people suffer with data.
Rob_
Premium
join:2008-07-16
Mary Esther, FL
kudos:1

Their coverage SUCKS (anything sprint prepaid)

If you ever look at their maps, don't go too far or you'll get NO SERVICE. I hate sprint, their service cuts you off, and has a nice crackly sound on the phone.

Why does Sprint have all of these spin offs? Why not just do sprint prepaid? At least TMobile has decent coverage

»www1.virginmobileusa.com/coverag···erage.do

-Rob

nightwalker
Nightwalker

join:1999-08-07
Chicago, IL

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Re: Their coverage SUCKS (anything sprint prepaid)

Sprint is fine in the major population areas. If your looking for the latest phone, then signup with a major carrier and expect to pay a hundred or more a month for service. I'm happy with my VirginMobile plan. I pay $45/month for a basic android phone (LG OPTIMUS ELITE).

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S_engineer
Premium
join:2007-05-16
Chicago, IL

Re: Their coverage SUCKS (anything sprint prepaid)

said by nightwalker:

Sprint is fine in the major population areas. If your looking for the latest phone, then signup with a major carrier and expect to pay a hundred or more a month for service. I'm happy with my VirginMobile plan.

I don't know where in Chitown you are...but on the Southside and the loop, VM sucks balls...sweaty ones at that. I had them for their 2 week trial, and the phone was virtually unusable.
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clos000

join:2012-12-31
eh, are you sure you didn't get Sprint mixed up with Tmobile? You can roam on Verizon with Sprint... don't think you'll lose service. You lose service with Tmobile as soon as you drive out of a metropolitan area.

bobjohnson
Premium
join:2007-02-03
Orlando, FL
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Re: Their coverage SUCKS (anything sprint prepaid)

said by clos000:

eh, are you sure you didn't get Sprint mixed up with Tmobile? You can roam on Verizon with Sprint... don't think you'll lose service. You lose service with Tmobile as soon as you drive out of a metropolitan area.

I believe that you have them mixed up. There is no roaming on any Sprint prepaid service and T-Mobile does allow very limited 2g roaming on a smaller part of their postpaid partner networks.
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HotRodFoto
Premium
join:2003-04-19
Denver, CO

Re: Their coverage SUCKS (anything sprint prepaid)

said by bobjohnson:

said by clos000:

eh, are you sure you didn't get Sprint mixed up with Tmobile? You can roam on Verizon with Sprint... don't think you'll lose service. You lose service with Tmobile as soon as you drive out of a metropolitan area.

I believe that you have them mixed up. There is no roaming on any Sprint prepaid service and T-Mobile does allow very limited 2g roaming on a smaller part of their postpaid partner networks.

I use Virgin with a HTC One-V and couldn't be happier. Haven't had a single drop call since I switched back in Sept. And when ya call them for help, someone actually answers and you aren't greeted with automated hell
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bobjohnson
Premium
join:2007-02-03
Orlando, FL

Re: Their coverage SUCKS (anything sprint prepaid)

Sprint's native network is getting alot better every day. If I didn't have a business account with all the benefits I would switch to Virgin or Boost. In my area I do use roaming in quite a few places though, so it's not an option for me quite yet.

tc1uscg

join:2005-03-09
Clinton Township, MI
That's incorrect. Wife uses Republic Wireless and it was roaming on Big red in 1x mode (as well as my Sprint phone) near Lake St. Clair (Harrison Township). It does this every time we go to that area. Reason I know it's VZW is there are NO other CMDA towers within miles of the place. Just sayin
Rob_
Premium
join:2008-07-16
Mary Esther, FL
kudos:1

Re: Their coverage SUCKS (anything sprint prepaid)

I heard CDMA will be non existent, soon.

tc1uscg

join:2005-03-09
Clinton Township, MI
No way. Verizon won't allow it!
AZinOH

join:2007-04-25
Swanton, OH
kudos:1

Get Money Now, Pay Later

If Company A is offering you money to leave Company B, it's because they have already structured their offerings to cover that cost somewhere else. The end result is that, at best, they are just giving you the same money that you're going to end up paying them. Why people don't realize that just amazes me.

supernac

join:2003-03-26
Springfield, MO

Tough to beat Virgin Mobile

$25 a month for 300 minuets unlimited texts and unlimited data. You cant roam with Virgin, so if you travel a lot it might not be for you. I've been using them for years, never had an issue.
ArizonaSteve

join:2004-01-31
Apache Junction, AZ
Reviews:
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·CenturyLink

Re: Tough to beat Virgin Mobile

Virgin Mobile isn't hard to beat since it doesn't even work! I don't see how they can lure away anyone on a non-functioning network! I tried one of their data dongles and only got speeds of 27kb or something, too slow to even open a website, so now I'm stuck with a dongle that I can't use for anything! If I ever meet that crook Richard Branson I'm going to punch him in the nose!

dnoyeB
Ferrous Phallus

join:2000-10-09
Southfield, MI
kudos:1
Reviews:
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TMobile is getting worse

Last year I had $5/month 200MB plans on each of my phones with 1000 minutes. Total monthly cost was $60.

They got rid of their $5/month data plan. They also had a $10/month unlimited plan that slowed down after like 1GB or something. They dumped both of those plans in favor of a $20/month 2GB plan. How this is a competitive improvement is anyone's guess.

Their monthly plans also have become worse. If I leave the plan I have now I won't be able to get it back and my cost will go up again. T-mobile may be changing things up, but its definitely costing a lot more for the low usage crowd.
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ArizonaSteve

join:2004-01-31
Apache Junction, AZ
Reviews:
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·CenturyLink

Re: TMobile is getting worse

You seem to be mistaken, there was never any such plan on their website. They had a voice/text only plan with no data that came out to $10/mo if you paid $30 for 90 days and a 200MB with 1000 minutes for $30/mo that has since been replaced with the 2Gb/unlimited plan for $30/mo. Even if you leave the $30 plan you can always get it back by signing up at Walmart or buying a SIM for $6 instead of a phone on their website then opting for the $30 plan.
That seems to change weekly though so who knows what you might find.
tcope
Premium
join:2003-05-07
Sandy, UT
kudos:2
said by dnoyeB:

They got rid of their $5/month data plan. They also had a $10/month unlimited plan that slowed down after like 1GB or something. They dumped both of those plans in favor of a $20/month 2GB plan. How this is a competitive improvement is anyone's guess.

Their monthly plans also have become worse. If I leave the plan I have now I won't be able to get it back and my cost will go up again. T-mobile may be changing things up, but its definitely costing a lot more for the low usage crowd.

Have you reviewed the cost of their data plans recently? To add Unlimited data is $20/month. This also includes 500MB/Month tethering.

$5 for T-zones? That was like 10 years ago at Edge speeds. $10 for 1GB or $20 for unlimited with 500MB tethering... how is this worse?

Right now I'm paying $20/month for 5GB under a grandfathered plan. The only difference is that this includes tethering for up to that 5GB. But to be honest, the new $20 data plan might even be better.

dnoyeB
Ferrous Phallus

join:2000-10-09
Southfield, MI
kudos:1
Reviews:
·Comcast

Re: TMobile is getting worse

This February I was on a $5 a month 200MB data plan. Apparently, that class of plan was discontinued about last August but I didn't know. I was grandfathered in until I changed for one month in March and tried to change back.

At the SAME time I also had a $10/month "unlimited" data plan on my son's phone that he never used. I turned that off too. Then when I decided to give us both the $5 plan I found that both plans I had in February had been discontinued.

Both my son and I own our phones, we did not have any contract with Tmobile. We are on value plans. I tether as much as I like. I'm not paying extra for that.

Tmobile plans are only unlimited in that once you cross their 'limit' your speed slows.
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dnoyeB

"Then said I, Wisdom [is] better than strength: nevertheless the poor
man's wisdom [is] despised, and his words are not heard. " Ecclesiastes
9:16
tcope
Premium
join:2003-05-07
Sandy, UT
kudos:2

Re: TMobile is getting worse

Again, I would invite you to visit their website and check out the plans... as their unlimited is _not_ slowed down. It's not been that way for a couple of years now.

For $20/month you get unlimited data and can tether for up to 500MB. How much is an unlimited plan through any other carrier? How much more, on top of that, does tethering cost?

It would be nice if TM would tell people when they cancel a plan that is no longer offered that they can't get it back but this is not practicle, should be obvious that this happens and that is how every company does it.

But again, TM has a $20 unlimited data plan with 500MB tethering. It's truly unlimited (same as Sprint).

The 200MB plan was really good for some people. I don't know of any major carrier that offered something like that. It _might_ be possible to get it again if you talk to someone in retentions but its a crap shoot. It's a great plan for people who almost never use data. However, $20/month for unlimited is still a steal.

Right now you can get unlimited talk and text and 500MB for $50. I'm wondering if this is about the same cost you are paying now... or even less.
tmc8080

join:2004-04-24
Brooklyn, NY

really?

I think lowering rates for ALL customers versus the fast cash would be a better idea..

zimou13

@41.107.250.x

galaxy S4

The Galaxy S4 will run on T-Mobile’s new LTE network. The phone will debut in T-Mobile stores May 1 and also be available on six other U.S. carriers.
AT&T will offer the S4 at $199 down with a two-year contract and for $639 if you don’t want a contract. Sprint, meanwhile, is selling the phone at $249 with a two-year agreement and new customers will receive a $100 credit, bringing the grand total to $149. Verizon hasn’t released pricing.
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