 Mr Matt
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kudos:1 |  Don't forget about Radio!
 Reminds me of Radio. Get to listen to your favorite song if you are willing to listen to the commercials. | |
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| | | | | Re: Don't forget about Radio! Sorry, I need to be more clear: "radio" is something I can listen to on my FM/AM receiver, aka radio. "Internet radio" is really a misnomer. Yeah, I'm sure there are some radio stations in the world that still play music (as in, something I would consider "music")... but there ain't one in my geographic area that I would listen to--they're all pre-packaged crap programming delivered from national conglomerates. I want local, progressive stations... like the ones I used to listen to when I was [much] younger, but that era is gone [forever, I expect]. (And, yeah, there are plenty of OK choices for streaming music via the web.) | |
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| | | | | | Re: Don't forget about Radio! I feel your pain. Thankfully I have a few viable choices living in the Boston area.
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|  GbcueAlmost P.E.Premium
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| Re: Bottled water... said by cowboyro:They are still having a hard time grasping the concept of bottled water and trying to sell soda instead... Both of which are scams, btw.
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 Doctor FourMy other vehicle is a TARDISPremium
join:2000-09-05
Dallas, TX | Way to go Warner Music Now don't go whining about piracy. You brought this on yourselves - by removing legal alternatives to piracy, guess what many of those former Spotify and other streaming service listeners are going to do now?
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| | | Re: Way to go Warner Music You watch, they'll go, "Oh, darn, it didn't work for us" and then use it as an excuse that these forms of distribution don't work. I don't think they tried very hard with this model. They have a death grip on the old ways. | |
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| | | don't worry cause warner is more than happy to sue you and maybe that will bring in more money than free stuff. | |
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| | reported this last night and like i said its tantrum tme as warner and EMI as NOW losing money that the spotlight is on them actually having tpay the artists. the yacht building programs of these people will come to a halt OMG THINK OF THE CHILDREN we need to give them all our money NOW
PISS OFF WARNER TAKE THAT PIRATE SON OF YOUR CEO WITH YOU | |
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|  BF69Premium
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Camden, TN | Re: reported this last night said by chronoss2009:and like i said its tantrum tme as warner and EMI as NOW losing money that the spotlight is on them actually having tpay the artists. the yacht building programs of these people will come to a halt OMG THINK OF THE CHILDREN we need to give them all our money NOW PISS OFF WARNER TAKE THAT PIRATE SON OF YOUR CEO WITH YOU You know the VAST majority of people invloved in making music are NOT millionaires but regular working stiffs. You think an artsit just walks into a studio by himself and makes a record like magic? | |
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| | | | Re: reported this last night said by BF69:said by chronoss2009:and like i said its tantrum tme as warner and EMI as NOW losing money that the spotlight is on them actually having tpay the artists. the yacht building programs of these people will come to a halt OMG THINK OF THE CHILDREN we need to give them all our money NOW PISS OFF WARNER TAKE THAT PIRATE SON OF YOUR CEO WITH YOU You know the VAST majority of people invloved in making music are NOT millionaires but regular working stiffs. You think an artsit just walks into a studio by himself and makes a record like magic? and your speaking of what experience
as a person who was a producer who got his buds band into a north bay studio and saw first hand how labels treat and mistreat bands i can say just cause your not good enough to get them to sign you doesn't mean you cant make a buck too.
I'll add , that my own site and email is lining up with bands that want to get in on a free linking search engine ive been working on that has those working musicians that aren't signed and guess what DON'T WANT TO BE SIGNED in fact its a terms of the search engine service you cant be signed you have to be out there playing touring and playing in bars. DOING IT CAUSE YOU WANT TO not to become the next britney spears. THE CRIA we canucks have paid 500million dollars too for a cdr levy and that is supposed ot goto bands and it isnt. in fact we find out this practice extends as far back as the 1980's and there is a list of people that arent just canadian, such as my dads favorite bruce springstein. and BF69 no he gets around to bars and works at building up a fan base to day he would also put his music freely online until such time as he can get bookd for bigger venues.
the fact is the time of ozzy and kiss and such is over
and by sounds of it your ok with musicians not being paid as long as you can take chap shots at anyone against them.
and just so you know i was invited to a private hacker party that is hosting 5000 hackers. WERE you invited?
who would i want advertising me warner or a hacker site?
who do i rally trust. | |
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| Doctor FourMy other vehicle is a TARDISPremium
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Dallas, TX | Warner Music CEO Edgar Bronfman is a hypocrite. He condones piracy when it is done by his own children. P2P users haven't forgotten about that.
And then there's that copyright infringement lawsuit filed by the artists in Canada for $6 billion against the Big 4. I'll bet he wishes that would go away.
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1 edit | While WB is being stupid Comments on this I have read elsewhere shows many music fans are being equally stupid in their demands. One comment I read said the only way they'd pay for a subscription is if they could have unlimited downloading DRM free music to keep forever. Basically stated that that was "fair" and WB would be stupid not to go with that method.
Now seriously how can any company make a profit on charging $10-$15 a month when in that one month customers can download hundreds of thousands of songs? That just shows the ignorance of most people that think somehow music is produced for FREE and thus should basically be free. Even charging $100 a month( which isn't realistic ) wouldn't work for that.
Both the music industry and music fans need to get a grip on reality and meet somewhere in the middle. | |
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| Re: While WB is being stupid Thing is though, the music industry (and Warner apparently in particular in this case) still want to keep "Brick and Mortar" pricing and policies for music in the digital age.
Sorry, that's not going to work anymore.
People no longer want to pay for songs on a CD that they don't want to hear, hell some people don't even want to pay for the physical media anymore!
The problem is that by removing just those things, Warner Music's justification for their pricing model falls apart.
I will pay for A track that I like, why should I be forced to pad Warner Music's pocket for things I don't want to buy in addition to the things I do?
Those same Warner Execs would probably pitch a fit if they were told "Sorry, you can only buy a car with every option on it, in black" 
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1 edit | said by BF69:Comments on this I have read elsewhere shows many music fans are being equally stupid in their demands. One comment I read said the only way they'd pay for a subscription is if they could have unlimited downloading DRM free music to keep forever. Basically stated that that was "fair" and WB would be stupid not to go with that method. Now seriously how can any company make a profit on charging $10-$15 a month when in that one month customers can download hundreds of thousands of songs? That just shows the ignorance of most people that think somehow music is produced for FREE and thus should basically be free. Even charging $100 a month( which isn't realistic ) wouldn't work for that. Both the music industry and music fans need to get a grip on reality and meet somewhere in the middle. how can any company ahhhh there you have it hes a shill
you see its not about artists its about companies and products
HOW does any company compete with someone who has a cheaper product, invest in technology and people.
YOU buy into isps , check
you buy into the things they make stuff with ( sony ) check
you buy up media they burn with ( check deal in canada they just broke ) was a check
get a cdr levy on top of that , check
boy sounds to me like they had a lot a revenue and record profits ......
ya see i'll bet if they aint paying artists here in Canada there is a fair chunk elsewhere they aren't paying what they should too.
NOT MY PROBLEM
and BF69 when it costs 10cents to STOMP a cdr ( GOOGLE that term ) and then same tech that makes news papers and magazines does mass production of the labels....well your talking about a product that costs 15cents t make physically
and back when it started big acts got ONLY 50cents a dvdr or cdr
and i see at futureshop a cdr of somehting new go for 29.95
you say they aint made money?
its been a free for all for years for them.
ask ozzy osbourne while the guy eats steak tar tar how much they ripped him off, or bruce springstein if he ever got a dime for a sale in Canada.....
they were right Canada is the top pirate its the labels themselves doing far more then any Canadian combined has ever done
30 years of counterfeiting and theft or fraud of the CDR LEVY money thats my money i want no i demand to know what they did withit.
wheres the rcmp on this?
wheres the govt ....OH YA harper prorogued it
another winner
if a 150million adscam in quebec got an inquiry why isn't there a inquiry and police investigation into fraud of 450-500 million???
start asking yourselves fellow canadians WHERE DID THE MONEY GO | |
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| KearnstdElf WizardPremium
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Mullica Hill, NJ | Blizzard charges me $15 a month and i can play as much WoW as i want.
same with CCP and EVE-Online, and they even release their expansions for free. still $15/mo and they dont seem to be going out of business.
and both companies certainly have expenses as servers need people to work on them, more people to make new content, admin and management, PR teams, Customer support. the servers themselves cost money when replaced or new hardware is added, power for the hardware and cooling and of course the bandwidth.
trust me money can be made, assuming WoW is still around the 12mil mark, at 15 per month that is 180 million per month and 2.1 billion per year before expenses.
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| | | | Re: While WB is being stupid Not sure that is a valid comparison. A better comparison would be Blizzard allows you to play ALL their games, similar to how music listener wants the company to provide ALL their musics for a flat fee. | |
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| | Out of touch... Out of touch Warner "fat cats" are out of touch with reality? Say it isn't so!?!?! | |
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| | What do you expect? What do you expect from a music executive who's total experience in music is ZERO? I mean the guy's experience was from the Seagram's booze company! | |
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 AVDRespice, Adspice, ProspicePremium
join:2003-02-06
Onion, NJ | warner whats the relation to AOL/Time Warner ?
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 VanPremium
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New Orleans, LA | It's kind of cute when they think they will solve the piracy issue with little things like this | |
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| | first rule to defame blame the other guy this is all bs ok the reason the label do not cave in to this is because they are not the bad guys here they are the victims of corparation like google and youtube trying to strong arm them into giving them half of the profits for copyrights that aren't even theirs. yes do not blame the record labels blame companies like youtube who are on a secret mission into forcing the record labels to give up half their profits to video sites , sites like youtube are trying everything they can to make it look like the record labels are the bad guys the truth is that youtube and companies like google and are wanting everything for free with no return for the content holder. they think they are the only ones that count and everyone else doesn't matter. my info came from a famous artist that stated this to me who is in battled with youtube and the record labels to get paid royalties | |
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| | The 'infinite' copy problem Seems to me the issue is there is no shortage of product in the market. Trying to 'control' what's released on an audio-only production is quite a monumental task that I admire companies undertaking.
That said, this issue has stayed the same for nearly 15 years. It's amazing an industry that the flat-rate pay for service cannot yet support the habits of these companies when the same product of similar quality can be released for free. Basically, people are paying fees to have the hogwash delivered to their ears via radio or other entertainment venues. It would be abundantly clear to me, the profit would be in the venues that propagate popular music, and not the individuals that can record/obtain the stuff for free. | |
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